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Yet it seems he still reserves the right to force his will because otherwise his

Yet it seems he still reserves the right to force his will because otherwise his authority is meaningless or token only. So Mike's only objection would have to be that forcing sex is not loving her a

Mike mentions the wife has authority over the husband’s body [1:16:35]. Well no

Mike mentions the wife has authority over the husband’s body [1:16:35]. Well now, who is the tiebreaker when there’s a stalemate on sex? 😂 I guess you don’t always need a tie breaker, eh Mike? /21

Mike's complaint is against those who believe that women share equal authority w

Mike's complaint is against those who believe that women share equal authority with men because being a man means to him that you are supposed to have higher authority than women, and unless you occup

Mike quotes 1Ti 5:14 which uses the word translated "manage" and says that women

Mike quotes 1Ti 5:14 which uses the word translated "manage" and says that women are called “despots” who also manage the home. Mike uses this to show that he believes women also have some authority.

1Ti 5:14 debate

So you’d think this alone would mean that women would be allowed to teach from t

So you’d think this alone would mean that women would be allowed to teach from the pulpit or pastor as long as they are under a male head, but I don’t believe he thinks that as to Mike, it is about be

Mike says that wives have authority over the children. He critiques those who tr

Mike says that wives have authority over the children. He critiques those who treat wives as having no authority and those who claim that complementarians believe that wives have no authority. (They a

However, laying down one's life is actually laying down your own needs and desir

However, laying down one's life is actually laying down your own needs and desires in order to come under and lift up another to satisfy their needs and/or desires. Perhaps he was just saying that re

Mike says that driving a car is an "authority" that we have. He says this in res

Mike says that driving a car is an "authority" that we have. He says this in response to Patriarchalists, including Muslims who don’t let their women drive. [1:06:58] How is this an authority? It see

Mike conflates father with head (ie. the authority) and mother as the one who su

Mike conflates father with head (ie. the authority) and mother as the one who submits him. So to Mike, to be a father is to be the authority. This is why he says a woman cannot be the authority. [1:05

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-02

@RenOfMen @michael_ronning @ymmotrojam @Rattle_Resists @ZacharyGarris That's not at all what egalitarians think this verse means! Mothers can only be mothers and fathers, fathers, but what does that have to do with leadership roles? Patriarchalists a...

@RenOfMen @michael_ronning @ymmotrojam @Rattle_Resists @ZacharyGarris That's not at all what egalitarians think this verse means! Mothers can only be mothers and fathers, fathers, but what does that h

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-02

@JonathanTreal Can't disagree with the craziness going on today, but it has noth

@JonathanTreal Can't disagree with the craziness going on today, but it has nothing to do with 1Ti 2:12 (at least based on what Paul intended in that verse). I also don't think males presenting as fem

1Ti 2:12 debate

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-01

Pastor David Allen, critical of Calvinism and not vocally critical of women in l

Pastor David Allen, critical of Calvinism and not vocally critical of women in leadership might just be the change the #SBC needs. https://t.co/uIBWNG1vwO

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-29

@ThomisticRednek @KatKanada_TM @oliverburdick "A woman" is not in the plural. v14 says "the woman" which is an anaphoric use of the article showing that "a woman" is a specific woman. 1Ti 1:3 says that Paul left Timothy behind to stop "certain people...

@ThomisticRednek @KatKanada_TM @oliverburdick "A woman" is not in the plural. v14 says "the woman" which is an anaphoric use of the article showing that "a woman" is a specific woman. 1Ti 1:3 says tha

1Ti 1:3 general

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-29

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy You presume leadership means authority over, when that is not the Biblical model. The woman described in Prov 31 exemplifies leadership and wisdom in her household and beyond. She influences and shows leadership to the fol...

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy You presume leadership means authority over, when that is not the Biblical model. The woman described in Prov 31 exemplifies leadership and wisdom in her household and beyo

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-29

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy In Romans 16, Paul mentions several women whom he praises for their work and contributions to the early Christian community, highlighting their roles and leadership. Here are the women mentioned: 1. Phoebe (Ro 16:1-2) - De...

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy In Romans 16, Paul mentions several women whom he praises for their work and contributions to the early Christian community, highlighting their roles and leadership. Here ar

Ro 16:1-2 debate

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy Everyone isn't cookie cut the way you seem to suggest as I know many women who are grade A leaders and teachers. Men tend to struggle more with the emotion called "anger"⎯did you forget that? Anger and fear can cloud one's ...

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy Everyone isn't cookie cut the way you seem to suggest as I know many women who are grade A leaders and teachers. Men tend to struggle more with the emotion called "anger"⎯di

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@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy Just as the older men should instruct the younger men and lead by example, so also the older women should instruct the younger women and lead by example. But women teach males too. Women taught Timothy theology and were the...

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy Just as the older men should instruct the younger men and lead by example, so also the older women should instruct the younger women and lead by example. But women teach mal

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy You are inferring that in order for her husband to fulfill his role as her authority (ie. by sitting in the gate of the city), that she has to deal with stuff around the home. Nowhere is this text saying that he is her aut...

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy You are inferring that in order for her husband to fulfill his role as her authority (ie. by sitting in the gate of the city), that she has to deal with stuff around the hom

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy That's correct. So you are presuming that if we don't see 50% females sitting in the gate then men are obviously in authority over women? I'm not saying she had to be in the gate. Maybe men like to sit around and watch peo...

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy That's correct. So you are presuming that if we don't see 50% females sitting in the gate then men are obviously in authority over women? I'm not saying she had to be in th

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy I don't decide whether someone is suited for a role based on situational details alone. My previous church was in a bad situation, but current church is not. My previous church's situation was primarily because of a bad mal...

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy I don't decide whether someone is suited for a role based on situational details alone. My previous church was in a bad situation, but current church is not. My previous chu

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy Women tend to think differently which is why I'm glad that both me and my wife lead together. I don't trump her because she brings a different perspective or gifts to our relationship. My decision isn't final because I'm ma...

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy Women tend to think differently which is why I'm glad that both me and my wife lead together. I don't trump her because she brings a different perspective or gifts to our re

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy Your comment "...they were not made for" is what I'm

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy Your comment "...they were not made for" is what I'm contesting. Is the husband operating heavy machinery? Women were not made physically as the stronger partner. Leadership

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@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy "It's her husband who's in leadership" Actually, the whole passage is about how she is a competent leader in everything she touches with a verse noting that her husband is also a leader. Where did you read that she has to...

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy "It's her husband who's in leadership" Actually, the whole passage is about how she is a competent leader in everything she touches with a verse noting that her husband is

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy So if I understand your point, the fact that the proverbs 31 woman isn’t stated as sitting in the gate with her husband means that he is an authority over her and tells her what she can and cannot do? The fact that Deborah ...

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy So if I understand your point, the fact that the proverbs 31 woman isn’t stated as sitting in the gate with her husband means that he is an authority over her and tells her

@JoanBandy @BogdanOancea77 That's right. If Paul meant authority, why did he choose such an extremely rare verb even in non-Biblical sources. But with clues from the context and references, we can piece together what Paul is doing and confirm this ne...

@JoanBandy @BogdanOancea77 That's right. If Paul meant authority, why did he choose such an extremely rare verb even in non-Biblical sources. But with clues from the context and references, we can pie

@Carol52538896 @Revelation_14_7 BTW, you quoted 1Ti 2:12 and I presume you believe you are not supposed to teach or take authority over a man, yet here you are correcting me. Does that only apply for you on Sunday mornings for 90 minutes and you are ...

@Carol52538896 @Revelation_14_7 BTW, you quoted 1Ti 2:12 and I presume you believe you are not supposed to teach or take authority over a man, yet here you are correcting me. Does that only apply for

1Ti 2:12 debate

@baste_goblin @TomWarlord @OnionPizza68693 @EchoToaster_ @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_

@baste_goblin @TomWarlord @OnionPizza68693 @EchoToaster_ @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn Is the one helping under the authority of the one being helped?

@OnionPizza68693 @TomWarlord @baste_goblin @EchoToaster_ @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_

@OnionPizza68693 @TomWarlord @baste_goblin @EchoToaster_ @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn You mean “patriarchal minded women get cagey…”? When someone tells you that you are rebelling against God if you d

@TomWarlord @baste_goblin @OnionPizza68693 @EchoToaster_ @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_

@TomWarlord @baste_goblin @OnionPizza68693 @EchoToaster_ @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn That’s because your wife is a complementarian. And it’s working for you and so the only thing that’s a problem is i

@OnionPizza68693 @baste_goblin @EchoToaster_ @TomWarlord @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn Initially my wife was happy to not share the responsibility of leadership. But if she is going to judge the world and angels one day, I figured she should get some p...

@OnionPizza68693 @baste_goblin @EchoToaster_ @TomWarlord @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn Initially my wife was happy to not share the responsibility of leadership. But if she is going to judge the world a

1Co 6:2-3 debate

@OnionPizza68693 @baste_goblin @EchoToaster_ @TomWarlord @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn You know what I think? That you stand to lose if you give up your “overruling authority.” You don’t want to give that up. Who would? I’m glad that you don’t abuse y...

@OnionPizza68693 @baste_goblin @EchoToaster_ @TomWarlord @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn You know what I think? That you stand to lose if you give up your “overruling authority.” You don’t want to give th

@baste_goblin @OnionPizza68693 @EchoToaster_ @TomWarlord @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn Without a doubt, my wife and I do not share the same levels of Testosterone. However, your aggressive handling of me in this forum shows how high T levels are not li...

@baste_goblin @OnionPizza68693 @EchoToaster_ @TomWarlord @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn Without a doubt, my wife and I do not share the same levels of Testosterone. However, your aggressive handling of m

@OnionPizza68693 @baste_goblin @EchoToaster_ @TomWarlord @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn I find the vast majority of complementarians and Patriarchalists assume I’m not even a believer and apostate simply because I don’t think a godly woman should be pre...

@OnionPizza68693 @baste_goblin @EchoToaster_ @TomWarlord @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn I find the vast majority of complementarians and Patriarchalists assume I’m not even a believer and apostate simply

@MartinMarkLuth1 No, not interested in politics. My interest is getting to the r

@MartinMarkLuth1 No, not interested in politics. My interest is getting to the root of what Scripture teaches. I believe scripture is inerrant (even down to the grammar used in the originals) and auth

@LutheranLifter I’m afraid to ask what that means. Egalitarian doesn’t mean that

@LutheranLifter I’m afraid to ask what that means. Egalitarian doesn’t mean that women become men but that women, if qualified, are not forbidden from leading. Gen 1:28 is a command given to both the

Gen 1:28 debate

@BlackPatriarch1 @princess_dee95 Those who promoted slavery using the Bible were doing the same kind of thing that people today are doing by using the Bible to forbid women from leadership and teaching roles. The only way to know if you got it right ...

@BlackPatriarch1 @princess_dee95 Those who promoted slavery using the Bible were doing the same kind of thing that people today are doing by using the Bible to forbid women from leadership and teachin

@MartinMarkLuth1 @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn Great, we are back to talking about scripture again. It's not hard to find a commentator that agrees with you, but of course, we both adhere to Sola Scriptura, so whatever they say has to be tested agains...

@MartinMarkLuth1 @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn Great, we are back to talking about scripture again. It's not hard to find a commentator that agrees with you, but of course, we both adhere to Sola Scrip

@MartinMarkLuth1 I only mentioned them because you seemed to think women preache

@MartinMarkLuth1 I only mentioned them because you seemed to think women preachers only came about in the last 50 years. I am not saying we test doctrine by church history. We test it by scripture. I

@MartinMarkLuth1 @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn A heretic, huh? So a godly woman teaching truth to someone is damnable heresy? Where do you find this "sin" in any list of sins? Go ahead and look for it. You are misinterpreting the scripture. You are fr...

@MartinMarkLuth1 @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn A heretic, huh? So a godly woman teaching truth to someone is damnable heresy? Where do you find this "sin" in any list of sins? Go ahead and look for it.

@MartinMarkLuth1 @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn Both my wife and I are joint leaders of our family. Figuratively as her husband and given that marriage always sources back to its definition in the first marriage, I as the husband am the source of my wif...

@MartinMarkLuth1 @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn Both my wife and I are joint leaders of our family. Figuratively as her husband and given that marriage always sources back to its definition in the first

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-25

@EddieBucha10986 But my belief that God doesn’t forbid women is on Biblical grounds. I’m not ignoring anything in the Bible. To block godly, qualified and gifted women from serving as leaders would go against what I believe the Bible teaches and ther...

@EddieBucha10986 But my belief that God doesn’t forbid women is on Biblical grounds. I’m not ignoring anything in the Bible. To block godly, qualified and gifted women from serving as leaders would go

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-25

@SpecterAndBride I've read them, but if you have one in particular we can go through it. If you get Genesis wrong, it taints your view of all these passages. Instead of viewing them as source relationships, you see everything in terms of authority an...

@SpecterAndBride I've read them, but if you have one in particular we can go through it. If you get Genesis wrong, it taints your view of all these passages. Instead of viewing them as source relation

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-25

@beherleader Yikes. I treat my wife as an equal and we lead together, and by no

@beherleader Yikes. I treat my wife as an equal and we lead together, and by no means does she "mother" me. https://t.co/vsUEIFzlmE

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-24

@timotheeology @beherleader @FoundersMin @tomascol @conservmillen Origen is like many others, even those who were in the Church of Corinth which Paul rebukes by saying: “What? came the word of God out from you [men]? or came it unto you [men] only?” ...

@timotheeology @beherleader @FoundersMin @tomascol @conservmillen Origen is like many others, even those who were in the Church of Corinth which Paul rebukes by saying: “What? came the word of God out

1Co 14:36 question

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-24

@beherleader @FoundersMin @tomascol @conservmillen Yes, that is the verse separa

@beherleader @FoundersMin @tomascol @conservmillen Yes, that is the verse separate from its context. What does Paul mean by that statement? https://t.co/zkbRDwQoSZ

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-24

@Alicia_Bittle_ @lebell79 @herreisenheim00 @roserobins017 No one is suggesting a

@Alicia_Bittle_ @lebell79 @herreisenheim00 @roserobins017 No one is suggesting a man should pretend to be a woman, to wear a dress or adorn fake breasts or claim to bear children. This is about leade

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@StothersRyan I appreciate your demeanour on this topic. Here’s another statement from Jesus similar to the one from John the Baptist: “Jesus answered, ‘You would have no authority over Me, unless it had been given you from above; for this reason h...

@StothersRyan I appreciate your demeanour on this topic. Here’s another statement from Jesus similar to the one from John the Baptist: “Jesus answered, ‘You would have no authority over Me, unless i

Eph 5:21 Titus 2:5 debate

@BlackSheepPickl @MikeWingerii Titus 2:5 does say wives are to hypotasso their husbands. I didn’t say that wives are not to do this, only that Eph 5:21 says all are to do this to one another showing that it’s not a gendered hierarchical authority str...

@BlackSheepPickl @MikeWingerii Titus 2:5 does say wives are to hypotasso their husbands. I didn’t say that wives are not to do this, only that Eph 5:21 says all are to do this to one another showing t

@StothersRyan @Maheshburad1 The problem with Witherington’s assumption is that this passage is about authority of one person over another in worship. It is not. I challenge you to interpret v10. The NASB has “symbol of” but this is not in the Greek. ...

@StothersRyan @Maheshburad1 The problem with Witherington’s assumption is that this passage is about authority of one person over another in worship. It is not. I challenge you to interpret v10. The N