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@MikedAlamo @MikeWingerii The WCF says nothing about women and leadership. I’d be willing to live at peace within the context of a complementarian church as I have for many years (which means I may share my views on certain passages but not in a divi...

@MikedAlamo @MikeWingerii The WCF says nothing about women and leadership. I’d be willing to live at peace within the context of a complementarian church as I have for many years (which means I may sh

@EtAbundatGratia @mythreesonsb @MikeWingerii Paul was an overseer and wasn’t a h

@EtAbundatGratia @mythreesonsb @MikeWingerii Paul was an overseer and wasn’t a husband. It literally says husband, right? So is Paul disqualified?

@peace_got @Robert_S_Morley @JollyStine @MargMowczko @pastherandie @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii Actually, authority to lead and teach comes directly from Jesus and is given to all in Matt 28:18-20. Leaders in the church must have characte...

@peace_got @Robert_S_Morley @JollyStine @MargMowczko @pastherandie @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii Actually, authority to lead and teach comes directly from Jesus and is given to all in Matt

Matt 28:18-20 debate

@MikedAlamo @MikeWingerii Where’s the command? 1Ti 2:12? That verse doesn’t even

@MikedAlamo @MikeWingerii Where’s the command? 1Ti 2:12? That verse doesn’t even have an imperative, speaks in the singular, and makes much more sense of a particular woman teaching false doctrine in

1Ti 2:12 question

@JonKismetCalvin @ScottCross_8 @peace_got @pastherandie @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii Based on as charitable a reading as I can make for Mike, to him this is about following God’s order even if it might not make sense. He claims to...

@JonKismetCalvin @ScottCross_8 @peace_got @pastherandie @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii Based on as charitable a reading as I can make for Mike, to him this is about following God’s o

@peace_got @ScottCross_8 @pastherandie @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeW

@peace_got @ScottCross_8 @pastherandie @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii No one is Jesus. So that quote is evidently true. But everything Paul wrote is scripture because it was inspired

@peace_got @ScottCross_8 @pastherandie @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii Elders are servants not masters to be served. Qualifying is related to character and ability. The only difference between elder and deacon is the ability to teac...

@peace_got @ScottCross_8 @pastherandie @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii Elders are servants not masters to be served. Qualifying is related to character and ability. The only differen

@peace_got @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @MikeWingerii The difference is if it bothered

@peace_got @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @MikeWingerii The difference is if it bothered me, I'd peaceably and quietly go to another church, not try to start a church split.

@peace_got @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @MikeWingerii When someone leaves who is trust

@peace_got @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @MikeWingerii When someone leaves who is trusted by others in the church and takes 3 friends, they also tell their 3 friends and it can quickly cascade into a split.

@peace_got @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @MikeWingerii No, that is where you are wrong. Everyone thinks they are correct. And you can even leave your church and go elsewhere if you wish, but doing it quietly with the blessing of your church is the way to ha...

@peace_got @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @MikeWingerii No, that is where you are wrong. Everyone thinks they are correct. And you can even leave your church and go elsewhere if you wish, but doing it quietly

@peace_got @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @MikeWingerii Do you think that people should

@peace_got @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @MikeWingerii Do you think that people should leave their churches loudly (ie. not quietly in peace) and bring others with them?

@peace_got @JollyStine @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @MikeWingerii You can't just keep restating like a dog with a bone. There is no imperative in there, Paul doesn't use the usual word for authority⎯in fact, its a word only used about 8 times in antiquity ...

@peace_got @JollyStine @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @MikeWingerii You can't just keep restating like a dog with a bone. There is no imperative in there, Paul doesn't use the usual word for authority⎯in fact

@peace_got @JollyStine @LaMonsterMom @Robert_S_Morley @MargMowczko @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Ok, let's say that you and your church only have men in leadership. Will that make you happy? Or do you have to squeeze all egal...

@peace_got @JollyStine @LaMonsterMom @Robert_S_Morley @MargMowczko @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Ok, let's say that you and your church only have men in leadership. Will that

@ThomasPurell @ScottCross_8 @sailemptyskies @andrewjritchie @MikeWingerii What a

@ThomasPurell @ScottCross_8 @sailemptyskies @andrewjritchie @MikeWingerii What authority do you exercise over your wife uniquely? You win every argument but you are just ‘nice’?

@peace_got @JollyStine @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @pastherandie @MikeWingerii I see. In the Talmud says that the testimony of a woman has very little acceptance. No wonder they’d pick Mordecai. Here’s a quote from the Talmud in Sota 20a: “Rabbi Eli...

@peace_got @JollyStine @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @pastherandie @MikeWingerii I see. In the Talmud says that the testimony of a woman has very little acceptance. No wonder they’d pick Mordecai. Here’

@peace_got @JollyStine @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Paul it seems identifies himself all the time. Maybe it’s because people were questioning his claim to be an apostle and also because people were impersonating him. The Heb...

@peace_got @JollyStine @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Paul it seems identifies himself all the time. Maybe it’s because people were questioning his claim to be an apostle and a

@ymmotrojam @peace_got @JosiahHawthorne @ronhenzel @MikeWingerii Also you only h

@ymmotrojam @peace_got @JosiahHawthorne @ronhenzel @MikeWingerii Also you only have what God has expressly given and he has not given the husband authority over his wife except related to the equal au

@peace_got @ymmotrojam @JosiahHawthorne @ronhenzel @MikeWingerii I like Mike and have been listening for years. But he’s quite wrong on this one—which is actually fine, until he called all egalitarians to repent of their teaching and all comps and wo...

@peace_got @ymmotrojam @JosiahHawthorne @ronhenzel @MikeWingerii I like Mike and have been listening for years. But he’s quite wrong on this one—which is actually fine, until he called all egalitarian

@peace_got @JosiahHawthorne @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @MikeWingerii When you misrea

@peace_got @JosiahHawthorne @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @MikeWingerii When you misread Paul’s intent by his words, then yes, you are making things up and binding people to them. https://t.co/ZQizsThBcj

@peace_got @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @pastherandie @MikeWingerii You are treating egalitarians as though they are teaching equity. We don’t think it’s about equal outcomes. We just don’t think it’s a sin that a woman can lead. Just need one ...

@peace_got @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @pastherandie @MikeWingerii You are treating egalitarians as though they are teaching equity. We don’t think it’s about equal outcomes. We just don’t thin

@peace_got @JollyStine @JoanBandy @CharmyRosewolf @pastherandie @MikeWingerii The only thing I’m questioning her on is the particulars of what she thinks the false teaching is and why. Everything else is pretty much what I believe as well and is taki...

@peace_got @JollyStine @JoanBandy @CharmyRosewolf @pastherandie @MikeWingerii The only thing I’m questioning her on is the particulars of what she thinks the false teaching is and why. Everything else

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@Apologetics315 @MikeWingerii And here’s an egalitarian running commentary on th

@Apologetics315 @MikeWingerii And here’s an egalitarian running commentary on the video. Think of it as a cliff notes with response. https://t.co/qtZ7AtuyBE

@peace_got @JoanBandy @CharmyRosewolf @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Order means ti

@peace_got @JoanBandy @CharmyRosewolf @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Order means time sequence not hierarchy of authority. I mean animals were made before Adam and they don’t rule him. The Jews were firs

@pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii And I pray that if Mike is wrong that he

@pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii And I pray that if Mike is wrong that he would rescind his calling egalitarians to repent, his divisive comments about leaving loudly and making waves, and advis

@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii Gal 3:26 says all are “sons”—even Mike noted this. It may be why he is a “next life egalitarian” (my understanding of what I believe he said) as somehow he concludes there’s a requirement to have authority over...

@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii Gal 3:26 says all are “sons”—even Mike noted this. It may be why he is a “next life egalitarian” (my understanding of what I believe he said) as somehow he conc

Gal 3:26 debate

@freemarketeer1 @Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii ‼️ Straw man alert ‼️

@freemarketeer1 @Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii ‼️ Straw man alert ‼️ Egalitarianism is not about equity (equal outcomes) but equality (equal opportunity).

@William34772026 That's close but doesn't quite fit all the details. Paul says in 1Ti 1:3 that he wanted Timothy to remain in Ephesus to instruct "certain people" not to teach "strange doctrines." The grammar in 1Ti 2:12 is singular and v14's "the w...

@William34772026 That's close but doesn't quite fit all the details. Paul says in 1Ti 1:3 that he wanted Timothy to remain in Ephesus to instruct "certain people" not to teach "strange doctrines." Th

1Ti 1:3 1Ti 2:12 debate

@AWoytuik @zacharydparks @ReformedCaio @MikeWingerii I believe he was the youth

@AWoytuik @zacharydparks @ReformedCaio @MikeWingerii I believe he was the youth pastor. I like Calvary Chapel. I get along with people there quite well. They don't tell me to repent of my egalitariani

@Torncurtainorg @914Ann @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii Yeah, I don't like this trophy for participation stuff. Lowers the bar and disincentivizes effort. I think you are thinking about equity which is equal outcomes. Egalitarians teach equality, as in equa...

@Torncurtainorg @914Ann @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii Yeah, I don't like this trophy for participation stuff. Lowers the bar and disincentivizes effort. I think you are thinking about equity which is equal

@mmmirele @MikeWingerii Hey I hear you loud and clear. It’s not an issue in my u

@mmmirele @MikeWingerii Hey I hear you loud and clear. It’s not an issue in my understanding of the scripture—women are fully equal and not prevented from serving aside from meeting character and comp

Eph 5:21 1 Cor 7:4 debate

@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii Eph 5:21 covers that. It’s mutual…check the Greek. 1 Cor 7:4 shows the husband doesn’t have authority over his own body, the only instance of gender authority and it’s …equal: "The wife does not have authority...

@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii Eph 5:21 covers that. It’s mutual…check the Greek. 1 Cor 7:4 shows the husband doesn’t have authority over his own body, the only instance of gender authority

@Crystalisives @NarnianAttorney @William34772026 @RSCharlton @MikeWingerii No they aren’t—Philip Payne is wrong on this and I’m disappointed. It is in every extant manuscript. Scribes recognized it wasn’t Paul’s words so they marked it or added notes...

@Crystalisives @NarnianAttorney @William34772026 @RSCharlton @MikeWingerii No they aren’t—Philip Payne is wrong on this and I’m disappointed. It is in every extant manuscript. Scribes recognized it wa

@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii It only takes one to dismantle the idea that a woman in a position of authority over a man is a sin. Deborah is all we need. It’s not a numbers game, Josh. It’s not 50/50…that’s not what we are suggesting. Tha...

@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii It only takes one to dismantle the idea that a woman in a position of authority over a man is a sin. Deborah is all we need. It’s not a numbers game, Josh. It’

@meganalcg @MikeWingerii I have listened to all 43 hours of Mike Winger's series plus extra Q&A's. I'm certain he isn't intentionally mysogynist and seems to really think that the Bible has males in a higher place of authority in this life. He ac...

@meganalcg @MikeWingerii I have listened to all 43 hours of Mike Winger's series plus extra Q&A's. I'm certain he isn't intentionally mysogynist and seems to really think that the Bible has males

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Wow, you branched on this comment a lot...making me think you didn't answer my question. You might want to thread in the future so its more clear what your response is. I'm glad you admit that Paul is single an...

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Wow, you branched on this comment a lot...making me think you didn't answer my question. You might want to thread in the future so its more clear what your respo

@4shaws1 @MikeWingerii Where does God command women to not pastor? I'm questioning your reading comprehension, not your primary beliefs. You can stay a complementarian⎯I'm fine with that, but if you think I'm sinning and want to follow Mike's advic...

@4shaws1 @MikeWingerii Where does God command women to not pastor? I'm questioning your reading comprehension, not your primary beliefs. You can stay a complementarian⎯I'm fine with that, but if you

@zacharydparks @ReformedCaio @MikeWingerii I can show you videos showing that Mike was complementarian before he hardened his position. What he wasn't was dogmatic about it. He told people to draw their own conclusions and shared that his was complem...

@zacharydparks @ReformedCaio @MikeWingerii I can show you videos showing that Mike was complementarian before he hardened his position. What he wasn't was dogmatic about it. He told people to draw the

@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @914Ann @MikeWingerii A complementarian view that has males possessing complete authority over women⎯even if they are not supposed to abuse it⎯provides the fertile ground for abuse and denigrates the true equality of women. ...

@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @914Ann @MikeWingerii A complementarian view that has males possessing complete authority over women⎯even if they are not supposed to abuse it⎯provides the fertile ground for

Gen 1:28 debate

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii I am fully capable of answering anything you want to talk about. But to be fair, you didn't answer my question and I think I deserve answers. Was Paul disqualified since he was not married (ie. not a husband) a...

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii I am fully capable of answering anything you want to talk about. But to be fair, you didn't answer my question and I think I deserve answers. Was Paul disqualif

Heb 13:20 1Pet 5:4 debate

@theologicaljoe @Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii Hi Joe - not a silly question at all. Glad to clarify. No one is specifically called a pastor, such as "Paul, the pastor of..." - Jesus is called the Chief shepherd in 1Pet 5:4 and the great sh...

@theologicaljoe @Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii Hi Joe - not a silly question at all. Glad to clarify. No one is specifically called a pastor, such as "Paul, the pastor of..." - Jesus is call

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Paul is not a husband. Is he disqualified? Order of creation does not mean hierarchy, it means time sequence order. So something related to the time sequence has to do with one being deceived and another not. ...

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Paul is not a husband. Is he disqualified? Order of creation does not mean hierarchy, it means time sequence order. So something related to the time sequence ha

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@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Why does leading equate to authority? Whe

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Why does leading equate to authority? Where are you getting this from?

@Ichthusproject @CherylSchatz @pastherandie @MikeWingerii @Crystalisives @ryancduff @will_servant @CharmyRosewolf @bkr8un @JollyStine @jdpritchett I’m egalitarian. If someone is affirming female pastors while agreeing that the Bible teaches that the...

@Ichthusproject @CherylSchatz @pastherandie @MikeWingerii @Crystalisives @ryancduff @will_servant @CharmyRosewolf @bkr8un @JollyStine @jdpritchett I’m egalitarian. If someone is affirming female past

@RSCharlton @NarnianAttorney @MikeWingerii Neat magic trick. So you just eliminated all secondary issues by quipping “sola scriptura”? I believe sola scriptura too. That verse is in the context of stopping false teaching, not stopping anyone from te...

@RSCharlton @NarnianAttorney @MikeWingerii Neat magic trick. So you just eliminated all secondary issues by quipping “sola scriptura”? I believe sola scriptura too. That verse is in the context of st

@RealBennRBoyle @MikeWingerii He spent hours monologuing with himself with no interaction with all the scholars from the other side. Why don’t you ask him why he doesn’t interact with egalitarian scholars? “The first to present his case seems right...

@RealBennRBoyle @MikeWingerii He spent hours monologuing with himself with no interaction with all the scholars from the other side. Why don’t you ask him why he doesn’t interact with egalitarian sch

@ReformedRant @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii I think that there appears to be a translator in the brains of complementarians. We say women are equal and the translator spits out “gay pastor.” Can you guys please stop doing that? The Bible does not com...

@ReformedRant @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii I think that there appears to be a translator in the brains of complementarians. We say women are equal and the translator spits out “gay pastor.” Can you gu

@CLSRoach Those are good comments. I (and you) not questioning Mike's salvation. I am concerned with the division he will create over what he himself stated is a secondary matter. He should have said that if people cannot tolerate female pastors, the...

@CLSRoach Those are good comments. I (and you) not questioning Mike's salvation. I am concerned with the division he will create over what he himself stated is a secondary matter. He should have said

@SolaSisters @MikeWingerii Thanks Christine. As a quick summary, Mike says secondary but acts as though it's a primary issue. For example, he wouldn't recommend leaving "loudly," making waves and taking others with him because a church was Calvinist....

@SolaSisters @MikeWingerii Thanks Christine. As a quick summary, Mike says secondary but acts as though it's a primary issue. For example, he wouldn't recommend leaving "loudly," making waves and taki

@MereLiberty @SolaSisters @MikeWingerii Hi Kerry! Thanks for your excellent question. I believe Mike speaks like this is not a matter that makes a church into a cult. So it is still a church, but one that is doing things the wrong way...that they hav...

@MereLiberty @SolaSisters @MikeWingerii Hi Kerry! Thanks for your excellent question. I believe Mike speaks like this is not a matter that makes a church into a cult. So it is still a church, but one

@kb_french I use bold and italic to try to stress things that stand out to me. Sorry if it gets in the way for you. I understand that everyone is at a different place and has different convictions. There was a time not long ago when people used the ...

@kb_french I use bold and italic to try to stress things that stand out to me. Sorry if it gets in the way for you. I understand that everyone is at a different place and has different convictions. T