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@covapologetics I appreciate you sharing grace with my mistake. Which church ta

@covapologetics I appreciate you sharing grace with my mistake. Which church takes your position that you are aware of? How about your church?

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@Crystalisives @covapologetics Frankly, I don’t know anyone who feels confident

@Crystalisives @covapologetics Frankly, I don’t know anyone who feels confident about their view of 1Ti 2:15! All patriarchalists and complementarians I have heard from seem to believe that Eph 5:21

Eph 5:21 1Ti 2:15 debate

@subq @covapologetics He is overliteralizing “must be the husband of one wife” t

@subq @covapologetics He is overliteralizing “must be the husband of one wife” to mean must be married and continue to be married or else be disqualified.

@Crystalisives @covapologetics I’m still curious which church(es) actually take

@Crystalisives @covapologetics I’m still curious which church(es) actually take this view and disqualify their pastor if he becomes a widower while serving as their pastor.

@subq @covapologetics He is overliteralizing the passage. Paul himself wasn’t ma

@subq @covapologetics He is overliteralizing the passage. Paul himself wasn’t married and would be DQ’d by his reading. So would Jesus! And so now I’m curious to find out how many Particular Baptist

@covapologetics @fishercatMaine So you admit that this issue is unclear enough t

@covapologetics @fishercatMaine So you admit that this issue is unclear enough that there isn’t a general consensus on single pastors? Or just that you are not informed as to what the general consensu

@covapologetics Again, I can read and I appreciate the additional context. Are you suggesting a single male pastor is ok then? Or are they and the congregation supporting them being unfaithful to the Bible? Or are you thinking it’s not a deal break...

@covapologetics Again, I can read and I appreciate the additional context. Are you suggesting a single male pastor is ok then? Or are they and the congregation supporting them being unfaithful to the

Peter @covapologetics has informed me that the traditional Baptist view is that

Peter @covapologetics has informed me that the traditional Baptist view is that pastors whose wife dies have to step down as they become disqualified (see comment for details). Does your church disqu

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@covapologetics Now as for your view, does a pastor have to step down if his wif

@covapologetics Now as for your view, does a pastor have to step down if his wife bears his second child and she dies during childbirth?

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@covapologetics Why are you saying I think being a ‘husband’ is irrelevant? I sa

@covapologetics Why are you saying I think being a ‘husband’ is irrelevant? I said that Paul’s idiom describes faithful if married and monogamous. You can be monogamous even if you are not married as

Your view assumes gender is the key difference, but Paul’s focus is on character

Your view assumes gender is the key difference, but Paul’s focus is on character qualifications, not a categorical distinction. ‘Likewise’ strengthens inclusion, connecting women to deacons and mainta

‘Likewise’ does signal a shift, but it doesn’t exclude continuity. The shift is

‘Likewise’ does signal a shift, but it doesn’t exclude continuity. The shift is to women who serve, but the similarity is the shared qualifications required for deacons and women alike. https://t.co/9

I appreciate you allow for women in ministry, but you disallow them to be elders or deacons—leaders. And they cannot teach truth to males (adults only? What about teens?) Priscilla taught Apollos, so teaching men truth is not forbidden of women. An ...

I appreciate you allow for women in ministry, but you disallow them to be elders or deacons—leaders. And they cannot teach truth to males (adults only? What about teens?) Priscilla taught Apollos, so

As for your counter argument on 1Ti 2:12, since when is Paul forbidding the teac

As for your counter argument on 1Ti 2:12, since when is Paul forbidding the teaching of *correct* doctrine by anyone to anyone? The context is stopping false teaching. Also, he says male congregants s

1Ti 2:12 debate

I’m merely suggesting that in order to clearly restrict elders to only males, the text should explicitly exclude women which it doesn’t. 1Ti 3:11 says “Women likewise…”—Even if we presume v1-10 is for males, this statement shows the same requirement...

I’m merely suggesting that in order to clearly restrict elders to only males, the text should explicitly exclude women which it doesn’t. 1Ti 3:11 says “Women likewise…”—Even if we presume v1-10 is fo

1Ti 3:11 general

Yes, male specific terms do not always include women. Yet you admit that they can include women depending on the context. That is in fact my argument here, that in the context and aligned with the neutral syntax, Paul is not making a male-specific re...

Yes, male specific terms do not always include women. Yet you admit that they can include women depending on the context. That is in fact my argument here, that in the context and aligned with the neu

Further, by encouraging people to remain single (1Co 7:7-8,32-35), is Paul encou

Further, by encouraging people to remain single (1Co 7:7-8,32-35), is Paul encouraging them to become disqualified from being elders and deacons? Paul says that those who are single have more time to

1Co 7:7-8 question

Paul acts as a bishop over multiple churches, writing them letters (multiple in

Paul acts as a bishop over multiple churches, writing them letters (multiple in several cases) and gets involved in everything a pastor would do. And the fact that you admit the apostle Peter is also

Paul was clearly both an apostle and an overseer. His letters are pastoral (esp 1Co, 2Co and Gal), he ministered in Ephesus for ~3 yrs (Ac 20:31). He was not there merely to plant a church and appoint elders, but spent significant time shepherding,...

Paul was clearly *both* an apostle and an overseer. His letters are pastoral (esp 1Co, 2Co and Gal), he ministered in Ephesus for ~3 yrs (Ac 20:31). He was not there merely to plant a church and appoi

Ac 20:31 debate

This means if the pastor’s wife dies, he has to step down. He is no longer quali

This means if the pastor’s wife dies, he has to step down. He is no longer qualified! If his grown child decides to abandon the faith, the pastor has to step down. If he is married and only has one

You are at least consistent that you see the following requirements: - male - married (cannot be single or even a widower!) - must have more than one child - all children must believe So at any point that one or more of the above stops being true,...

You are at least consistent that you see the following requirements: - male - married (cannot be single or even a widower!) - must have more than one child - all children must believe So at *any* poi