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@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Paul is not a husband. Is he disqualified? Order of creation does not mean hierarchy, it means time sequence order. So something related to the time sequence has to do with one being deceived and another not. ...

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Paul is not a husband. Is he disqualified? Order of creation does not mean hierarchy, it means time sequence order. So something related to the time sequence ha

@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii Deborah was the voice of God in a theocracy. This is not a secular position as Mike presumes. We only need one example to prove that it is not a sin to be in a position of authority over men. If this is what ...

@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii Deborah was the voice of God in a theocracy. This is not a secular position as Mike presumes. We only need one example to prove that it is not a sin to be in a

@peace_got @AngEngland @pastherandie @MikeWingerii It doesn’t say she read the letter to the church at Rome. It’s a reasonable inference that she would explain anything that may be misunderstood since certainly Paul would have read it with her before...

@peace_got @AngEngland @pastherandie @MikeWingerii It doesn’t say she read the letter to the church at Rome. It’s a reasonable inference that she would explain anything that may be misunderstood since

@pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii This is a reasonable inference but it’s not stated explicitly in scripture. So just hold this as it is reasonable to assume Paul would have explained it to the person delivering because it’s scripture and she’s ...

@pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii This is a reasonable inference but it’s not stated explicitly in scripture. So just hold this as it is reasonable to assume Paul would have explained it to the p

@pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii Wow, that’s nuts. This is the kind of thi

@pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii Wow, that’s nuts. This is the kind of thing Paul was trying to avoid by commending Phoebe to the church at Rome. The fact that the second church doesn’t at all r

@NarnianAttorney You are presuming the complementarian reading of a few passages. There is no prohibition of female pastors for one, and 1Ti 2:12 is dealing with false teaching from a specific woman in Ephesus whom Paul was not naming to protect her;...

@NarnianAttorney You are presuming the complementarian reading of a few passages. There is no prohibition of female pastors for one, and 1Ti 2:12 is dealing with false teaching from a specific woman i

1Ti 2:12 debate

@914Ann @Louisa_J_Watt @ryancduff Which books? "After Paul Left Corinth"? "Seek

@914Ann @Louisa_J_Watt @ryancduff Which books? "After Paul Left Corinth"? "Seek the Welfare of the City"? Others?

@Crystalisives @CherylSchatz @pastherandie @MikeWingerii @ryancduff @will_servant @CharmyRosewolf @Ichthusproject @bkr8un @JollyStine @jdpritchett That's right. The detail concerning the shamefulness of women speaking can't be due to interrupting as ...

@Crystalisives @CherylSchatz @pastherandie @MikeWingerii @ryancduff @will_servant @CharmyRosewolf @Ichthusproject @bkr8un @JollyStine @jdpritchett That's right. The detail concerning the shamefulness

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-10

@Crystalisives @CherylSchatz @pastherandie @MikeWingerii @ryancduff @will_servant @CharmyRosewolf @Ichthusproject @bkr8un @JollyStine @jdpritchett You are right, there are verses where others are silent. What is curious is that in 1Co 14:34, the 3rd...

@Crystalisives @CherylSchatz @pastherandie @MikeWingerii @ryancduff @will_servant @CharmyRosewolf @Ichthusproject @bkr8un @JollyStine @jdpritchett You are right, there are verses where others are sile

1Co 14:34 debate

@NotTheBaptizer @KimberleeJayneW @deadtosin610 I get it. Paul left Timothy in Ephesus to stop certain people from teaching strange doctrines. It’s certainly a thing. But the idea that a godly woman can teach men or not is not one of those things Paul...

@NotTheBaptizer @KimberleeJayneW @deadtosin610 I get it. Paul left Timothy in Ephesus to stop certain people from teaching strange doctrines. It’s certainly a thing. But the idea that a godly woman ca

This is a complete miss on Gen 3. Just as Paul says “🥇to the Jew, then to the Gentile,” so also here it is about “to whom much is given much is required.” Adam is responsible because he sinned with knowledge. This has nothing to do with authority or...

This is a complete miss on Gen 3. Just as Paul says “🥇to the Jew, then to the Gentile,” so also here it is about “to whom much is given much is required.” Adam is responsible because he sinned with k

@NotTheBaptizer @onegospel2021 @joyklaprade @MikeWingerii No it’s not. I said Paul uses an idiom which refers to fidelity in marriage. If he wanted to say male, he would have said “must be a man” or even more clearly “must not be a woman.” As soon as...

@NotTheBaptizer @onegospel2021 @joyklaprade @MikeWingerii No it’s not. I said Paul uses an idiom which refers to fidelity in marriage. If he wanted to say male, he would have said “must be a man” or e

@NotTheBaptizer @onegospel2021 @joyklaprade @MikeWingerii Thanks. Where does it

@NotTheBaptizer @onegospel2021 @joyklaprade @MikeWingerii Thanks. Where does it specifically call for “only men”? To be consistent, you would have to say a married man, so all single men are excluded.

@onegospel2021 @NotTheBaptizer @joyklaprade @MikeWingerii It says literally “one wife husband” not “must be a man.” It’s an idiom, faithful to one’s spouse if married and a promoter of monogamy. Paul wasn’t married. So it cannot mean must be married...

@onegospel2021 @NotTheBaptizer @joyklaprade @MikeWingerii It says literally “one wife husband” not “must be a man.” It’s an idiom, faithful to one’s spouse if married and a promoter of monogamy. Paul

@NotTheBaptizer @joyklaprade @MikeWingerii The scripture doesn’t forbid female pastors. Paul uses no male pronouns but a neutral one, τις meaning anyone or someone. “one wife husband” is an idiom for faithful if married and a promoter of monogamy. No...

@NotTheBaptizer @joyklaprade @MikeWingerii The scripture doesn’t forbid female pastors. Paul uses no male pronouns but a neutral one, τις meaning anyone or someone. “one wife husband” is an idiom for

1Co 7:32 1Co 7:7 question

@NotTheBaptizer @joyklaprade @MikeWingerii What do you call someone who bears false witness about a brother? Where have I lied? 1) Yes, if married. Paul wasn’t married (1Co 7:7,26-27,32-35). Paul said that the “one who is unmarried is concerned abou...

@NotTheBaptizer @joyklaprade @MikeWingerii What do you call someone who bears false witness about a brother? Where have I lied? 1) Yes, if married. Paul wasn’t married (1Co 7:7,26-27,32-35). Paul sai

@TentSpike @jsrrayburn @deadtosin610 A woman pastor is abuse? Surely Paul read his bible and understood that women have been appointed by God to places of highest authority like Deborah to know that women are not forbidden by God for such service as ...

@TentSpike @jsrrayburn @deadtosin610 A woman pastor is abuse? Surely Paul read his bible and understood that women have been appointed by God to places of highest authority like Deborah to know that w

@TentSpike @jsrrayburn @ryancduff @deadtosin610 @CharmyRosewolf @AlanDMyattPhD S

@TentSpike @jsrrayburn @ryancduff @deadtosin610 @CharmyRosewolf @AlanDMyattPhD So Paul’s purpose of writing Timothy was to stop females from having any positions of authority?

@TentSpike @jsrrayburn @ryancduff @deadtosin610 @CharmyRosewolf @AlanDMyattPhD S

@TentSpike @jsrrayburn @ryancduff @deadtosin610 @CharmyRosewolf @AlanDMyattPhD So Paul wants Timothy to stop people from teaching truth? Where do you get that from?

@deadtosin610 @JollyStine For example, Paul says stuff like this in reference to the apostles: Gal 2:6: “But from those who seemed to be something—whatever they were, it makes no difference to me; God shows personal favoritism to no man—for those ...

@deadtosin610 @JollyStine For example, Paul says stuff like this in reference to the apostles: Gal 2:6: “But from those who seemed to be something—*whatever they were, it makes no difference to me;*

Gal 2:6 debate

@deadtosin610 @ServBotPhil @JollyStine Paul said that it was something about the time order of creation (Adam was formed first) that had something to do with him not being deceived. When you look at Gen 2 more closely, you see verbal forms used showi...

@deadtosin610 @ServBotPhil @JollyStine Paul said that it was something about the time order of creation (Adam was formed first) that had something to do with him not being deceived. When you look at G

@deadtosin610 @JollyStine Further, we don't expect the highest standard of maturity from helpers, but we do of leaders as people look up to the leaders. So it is perfectly reasonable that Paul is speaking of deacons that are leaders that must hold to...

@deadtosin610 @JollyStine Further, we don't expect the highest standard of maturity from helpers, but we do of leaders as people look up to the leaders. So it is perfectly reasonable that Paul is spea

@deadtosin610 @JollyStine It is evident from anyone who has served in church settings, that there are leaders that handle service ministries and manage the volunteers and direct actions and administrate. There is most definitely a difference between ...

@deadtosin610 @JollyStine It is evident from anyone who has served in church settings, that there are leaders that handle service ministries and manage the volunteers and direct actions and administra

@deadtosin610 @will_servant You can't take a requirement to be husband and then toss that out and say "ok, but just a man." Paul was single, see 1Co 7:7. This is an idiom like saying "faithful to one's spouse." You use the masculine form whenever you...

@deadtosin610 @will_servant You can't take a requirement to be husband and then toss that out and say "ok, but just a man." Paul was single, see 1Co 7:7. This is an idiom like saying "faithful to one'

1Co 7:7 debate

@deadtosin610 @JollyStine Since when does Paul care so much what the other apost

@deadtosin610 @JollyStine Since when does Paul care so much what the other apostles think of someone? He is clearly telling his opinion.

@deadtosin610 @will_servant Was Paul⎯an overseer and apostle⎯the husband of one

@deadtosin610 @will_servant Was Paul⎯an overseer and apostle⎯the husband of one wife?

@JollyStine @deadtosin610 Paul also addresses the elders in Ephesus in Ac 20:17-

@JollyStine @deadtosin610 Paul also addresses the elders in Ephesus in Ac 20:17-35, but we don't know who they all are. He doesn't call them men.

Ac 20:17-35 debate

@JollyStine @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii 1Ti 2:15 says “the” childbearing (noun), not the verb, so it’s referring to a thing, not an action. 1Ti 4:3 talks about those who were forbidding marriage. But this does not seem to talk about s3x in marriage. P...

@JollyStine @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii 1Ti 2:15 says “the” childbearing (noun), not the verb, so it’s referring to a thing, not an action. 1Ti 4:3 talks about those who were forbidding marriage. But t

1Ti 2:15 1Ti 4:3 debate

@OperHealAmerica @Gary5040390811 How is this a primary matter where you need to divide from your church? Where is a godly woman leading a church into truth ever considered a sin in scripture? Wasn't Paul writing to Timothy to stop "certain people" fr...

@OperHealAmerica @Gary5040390811 How is this a primary matter where you need to divide from your church? Where is a godly woman leading a church into truth ever considered a sin in scripture? Wasn't P

1Ti 1:3 question

@JollyStine @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii Abstaining from marriage, not sex. Love y

@JollyStine @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii Abstaining from marriage, not sex. Love you sister, but I am not convinced this is the false teaching Paul was addressing.

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-08

@jsrrayburn @ryancduff @TentSpike @deadtosin610 @CharmyRosewolf @AlanDMyattPhD Sorry, where does he say "must not be a woman" or "must be a man"? Doesn't he use the same idiom "one-wife-husband" which is easily shown does not mean married since Paul ...

@jsrrayburn @ryancduff @TentSpike @deadtosin610 @CharmyRosewolf @AlanDMyattPhD Sorry, where does he say "must not be a woman" or "must be a man"? Doesn't he use the same idiom "one-wife-husband" which

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-08

@jsrrayburn @ryancduff @TentSpike @deadtosin610 @CharmyRosewolf @AlanDMyattPhD "a woman" is not always specific, but since the article is used with the noun in v14, this anaphorically indicates that the "a woman" is a specific woman. Paul said in 1Ti...

@jsrrayburn @ryancduff @TentSpike @deadtosin610 @CharmyRosewolf @AlanDMyattPhD "a woman" is not always specific, but since the article is used with the noun in v14, this anaphorically indicates that t

1Ti 1:3 debate

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-08

@ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii The scripture does not explicitly prohibit "women" from teaching others unless they are teaching "strange doctrines." Nowhere does Paul ever prohibit a godly woman from teaching truth to others including men. To do so would ...

@ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii The scripture does not explicitly prohibit "women" from teaching others unless they are teaching "strange doctrines." Nowhere does Paul ever prohibit a godly woman from teach

Matt 28:18-20 general

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-07

@Christ_like_ish @NotTheBaptizer @ryancduff @onegospel2021 That's right. Paul wa

@Christ_like_ish @NotTheBaptizer @ryancduff @onegospel2021 That's right. Paul was an overseer if we've ever met one and he was single. That tells us that whatever is being said here does not mean marr

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-07

@PatMcc59 @ryancduff @lizzmccann What specifically in the context, grammar, references (ie. Gen 2) or related to the intent Paul had in this personal letter do you think disproves how I put this all together? Why don't you propose a solution that con...

@PatMcc59 @ryancduff @lizzmccann What specifically in the context, grammar, references (ie. Gen 2) or related to the intent Paul had in this personal letter do you think disproves how I put this all t

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-07

@Grump_Old_Man Sure, glad you asked. The meaning is very much tied to the contex

@Grump_Old_Man Sure, glad you asked. The meaning is very much tied to the context. Paul's specific grammar, word choice and references as well as the conveyed intent of this personal letter and instru

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-05

@Crystalisives @ryancduff You are absolutely correct. But the details of v34-35 cannot be reconciled as the words of Paul. There is no law that silences women in the assembly; if it was about disruption, then everyone would be told not to disrupt—tho...

@Crystalisives @ryancduff You are absolutely correct. But the details of v34-35 cannot be reconciled as the words of Paul. There is no law that silences women in the assembly; if it was about disrupti

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-05

@ryancduff Complementarians reject the idea of Paul quoting from the Corinthians

@ryancduff Complementarians reject the idea of Paul quoting from the Corinthians and then refuting them. But why? "What? came the word of God out from you [men]? or came it unto you [men] only?" (1Co

1Co 14:36 debate

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

Seems to me that men are responsible for women feeling restricted. Paul’s practi

Seems to me that men are responsible for women feeling restricted. Paul’s practice was never to restrict a godly woman. Instead, Paul restricted false teaching, never true teaching. /84

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

Priscilla was never criticized for teaching and correcting Apollos. In fact, no

Priscilla was never criticized for teaching and correcting Apollos. In fact, no woman was ever corrected for teaching and correcting. Surely with all of Paul’s female helpers there were some others wh

@Heidenzerstorer @RenOfMen @smashbaals Yes. I know that info because every detai

@Heidenzerstorer @RenOfMen @smashbaals Yes. I know that info because every detail in the context including the grammar, the purpose of the letter, the details Paul gives in the first chapter all fit l

@Heidenzerstorer @RenOfMen @smashbaals That commentary by Chrysostom shows that

@Heidenzerstorer @RenOfMen @smashbaals That commentary by Chrysostom shows that he doesn’t understand Paul here at all.

1Ti 3:15 Mat 28:18-20 debate

@ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @michael_ronning Absolutely. Timothy wasn't in a church by himself. Paul was instructing Timothy on "how he should behave" (1Ti 3:15) but this would have impacts to and application to others. Eve...

@ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @michael_ronning Absolutely. Timothy wasn't in a church by himself. Paul was instructing Timothy on "how he should behave" (1Ti 3:15) but this wo

@tjamesosborne @mc_kinnon5 @carolinecwilder @patrick10477 How do you know that Paul believed women were the property of their husbands? If he wrote that we should all subject ourselves to each other in Eph 5:21, then it cannot just be one way from wi...

@tjamesosborne @mc_kinnon5 @carolinecwilder @patrick10477 How do you know that Paul believed women were the property of their husbands? If he wrote that we should all subject ourselves to each other i

Eph 5:21 question

@JonathanTreal Can't disagree with the craziness going on today, but it has noth

@JonathanTreal Can't disagree with the craziness going on today, but it has nothing to do with 1Ti 2:12 (at least based on what Paul intended in that verse). I also don't think males presenting as fem

1Ti 2:12 debate

@JeffreyPWiesner @coachanthonyd Of course, 1Co 14:34-35 is Paul quoting from the

@JeffreyPWiesner @coachanthonyd Of course, 1Co 14:34-35 is Paul quoting from the letter the Corinthians wrote and then refuting it in v36: “What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you

1Co 14:34-35 question

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-01

@mc_kinnon5 @carolinecwilder @patrick10477 A godly woman teaching true doctrine

@mc_kinnon5 @carolinecwilder @patrick10477 A godly woman teaching true doctrine to anyone is not rebellious because that is not what Paul is saying in 1 Tim 2:11-12. https://t.co/zkbRDwQWIx

1 Tim 2:11-12 general

@ymmotrojam Paul is referencing and using the founders of the nations in the womb of their mother. This isn’t about the babies as individual persons since their mother was told that there were two nations in her womb. In that one statement it shows ...

@ymmotrojam Paul is referencing and using the founders of the nations in the womb of their mother. This isn’t about the babies as individual persons since their mother was told that there were two na