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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-15

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT Maybe it would be helpful to highlight the one way authority. What authority do you have over your church members that is one way. Please provide examples. - Setting the service time? - Not allowing people to spe...

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT Maybe it would be helpful to highlight the one way authority. What authority do you have over your church members that is one way. Please provide examples. - Sett

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-15

@DST_QA @sympatheticNPC Yes, there is clear plural and singular combined even in

@DST_QA @sympatheticNPC Yes, there is clear plural and singular combined even in the same sentence. But what’s that got to do with mystery authority of males over females? Authority to do what exact

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-15

@DST_QA @sympatheticNPC “Women and children have wilfull submission” All submission is to be willful. Did you forget that men need to submit to all in the body too? If so, then submission has nothing to do with authority otherwise mutual submissio...

@DST_QA @sympatheticNPC “Women and children have wilfull submission” All submission is to be willful. Did you forget that men need to submit to all in the body too? If so, then submission has nothi

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-15

@DST_QA @sympatheticNPC Yes, authority needs to be given. We need to deal with the text and not add things in that are not there when authority is given in this very context to both Adam and Eve. God gave dominion to humans as an imperative in Gen ...

@DST_QA @sympatheticNPC Yes, authority needs to be given. We need to deal with the text and not add things in that are not there when authority is given in this very context to both Adam and Eve. Go

Gen 1:28 Gen 3:16 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-15

@kelcy_lowry @chimpchompchamp Misinterpretation of God's word is certainly more common than sand on the seashore these days! However, I don't think the evidence points to Eve misinterpreting or adding to (lying about) what God said. Here's why: 1⃣...

@kelcy_lowry @chimpchompchamp Misinterpretation of God's word is certainly more common than sand on the seashore these days! However, I don't think the evidence points to Eve misinterpreting or addin

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-14

@sympatheticNPC @DST_QA I’m missing this conversation due to work… but just wanted to note that authority has to be given, not inferred. No where does God give authority of the man over the woman. The naming occurs after the fall (God uses Isha bef...

@sympatheticNPC @DST_QA I’m missing this conversation due to work… but just wanted to note that authority has to be given, not inferred. No where does God give authority of the man over the woman. T

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-14

@pauldirks @KaeleyT @DeeGoingsGirl I’m genuinely curious. I’m looking for examp

@pauldirks @KaeleyT @DeeGoingsGirl I’m genuinely curious. I’m looking for examples. Do you mean you have the authority to exclude me from doing things where scripture doesn’t exclude me?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-14

@pauldirks @KaeleyT @DeeGoingsGirl Paul, if I was a member in your church, how a

@pauldirks @KaeleyT @DeeGoingsGirl Paul, if I was a member in your church, how are you my authority? In what ways do you then have authority over my life separate from scripture?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-14

@sympatheticNPC Yes! God included specific details in this text for those earnestly seeking truth. Is there ever an end to these gems? 😅 This passage isn't about Eve undermining Adam’s authority, but rather highlights Adam's responsibility for hi...

@sympatheticNPC Yes! God included specific details in this text for those earnestly seeking truth. Is there ever an end to these gems? 😅 This passage isn't about Eve undermining Adam’s authority,

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-14

@chimpchompchamp But Eve’s “voice” merely repeated God’s command to them. She wasn’t speaking on her own authority **but reflecting God’s own words**. If Adam had actually listened to what she said, God would not have been upset, right? If a woman...

@chimpchompchamp But Eve’s “voice” merely repeated God’s command to them. She wasn’t speaking on her own authority **but reflecting God’s own words**. If Adam had actually listened to what she said,

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-13

@pauldirks @KaeleyT @DeeGoingsGirl And now we have the actual difference stated

@pauldirks @KaeleyT @DeeGoingsGirl And now we have the actual difference stated plainly. Thank you Paul. Show me what authority you are talking about. I don’t see it.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-13

@pauldirks @KaeleyT @DeeGoingsGirl But complementarian, though less extreme than

@pauldirks @KaeleyT @DeeGoingsGirl But complementarian, though less extreme than patriarchy, is still not in the middle. I’m saying egalitarian solves the problems unless you feel that the problem it

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-12

@kelcy_lowry @JeremyMBauman @hamillaaron @MarkGrote You are free to share your opinions without substantiating them if you choose, but the fact that we disagree is already on the table. Also, treating women as equal in that those of godly character ...

@kelcy_lowry @JeremyMBauman @hamillaaron @MarkGrote You are free to share your opinions without substantiating them if you choose, but the fact that we disagree is already on the table. Also, treatin

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-12

@DrFrankTurek @MikeWingerii @MikeWinger It appears that Frank thinks only the lead pastor role is not available to women. But there is no lead or chief pastor prescribed in scripture except Christ himself. Overseers who have a lot of experience sho...

@DrFrankTurek @MikeWingerii @MikeWinger It appears that Frank thinks only the lead pastor role is not available to women. But there is no lead or chief pastor prescribed in scripture except Christ hi

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-12

@DrFrankTurek @MikeWingerii @MikeWinger “Women, if they say that they can’t submit to the proper leadership of a man, are saying they can’t follow their saviour”⎯Frank Turek. Leadership simply means one who leads the way (by example) in following Ch...

@DrFrankTurek @MikeWingerii @MikeWinger “Women, if they say that they can’t submit to the proper leadership of a man, are saying they can’t follow their saviour”⎯Frank Turek. Leadership simply means

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-12

@BentheButcher80 @Jayessaych @Dioko1462 @Brian_Sauve Each individual was required to account for their own personal responsibility. God did not say to Adam, “Adam, why didn’t you take your role of authority over Eve” but “Where are you? Who told yo...

@BentheButcher80 @Jayessaych @Dioko1462 @Brian_Sauve Each individual was required to account for their own personal responsibility. God did not say to Adam, “Adam, why didn’t you take your role of au

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-11

@Christ_Polygyny @BibleBashed Courage is a thoroughly human virtue and doesn’t depend on or require physical strength in most instances. Speaking and standing up for someone or doing what’s right and bearing the personal cost is just one of the many...

@Christ_Polygyny @BibleBashed Courage is a thoroughly human virtue and doesn’t depend on or require physical strength in most instances. Speaking and standing up for someone or doing what’s right and

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-11

@JonnyRoot_ So a godly woman teaching true doctrine and pastoring in the truth i

@JonnyRoot_ So a godly woman teaching true doctrine and pastoring in the truth is committing a sin? What scripture says pastors are supposed to be authorities? I thought the authority was in the Wor

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-10

@TheYagosto @AverageSc0t @MikeWingerii @NathanFinochio As a married man, I recognize the many ways that me and my wife complement one another and yet we both lead according to our gifting, responsibility and desire⎯neither is the authority over the o...

@TheYagosto @AverageSc0t @MikeWingerii @NathanFinochio As a married man, I recognize the many ways that me and my wife complement one another and yet we both lead according to our gifting, responsibil

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-10

@AverageSc0t @TheologySteve @MikeWingerii @NathanFinochio I think this is hard for a man with authority over women to understand. Or perhaps functionally you act in a very egalitarian way 98% of the time and only pull your trump card to expedite dec...

@AverageSc0t @TheologySteve @MikeWingerii @NathanFinochio I think this is hard for a man with authority over women to understand. Or perhaps functionally you act in a very egalitarian way 98% of the

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-10

@MikeWingerii @NathanFinochio Complementarian is a bit deceiving because as an E

@MikeWingerii @NathanFinochio Complementarian is a bit deceiving because as an Egalitarian I also agree my wife and I complement each other. I just don’t think there are gender roles with respect to

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-10

@Alex7Shiro To be fair he actually believes that God’s design is for him to make sure his wife does things right or else he is failing as a husband. He believes he is emulating God’s order of authority. Interestingly, people don’t obey God and I’m ...

@Alex7Shiro To be fair he actually believes that God’s design is for him to make sure his wife does things right or else he is failing as a husband. He believes he is emulating God’s order of authori

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-09

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT The wife submits to the husband. The husband

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT The wife submits to the husband. The husband submits to the wife. Neither is the authority over the other (except when it comes to their bodies related to sex).

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-09

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT Sarah's calling Abraham lord is similar to how we use the term "sir" or "mister" today. The husband and the wife are the leaders of the home and work together as a team. The Biblical statement of the husband as th...

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT Sarah's calling Abraham lord is similar to how we use the term "sir" or "mister" today. The husband and the wife are the leaders of the home and work together as a

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-09

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT The issue is his misunderstanding of what the

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT The issue is his misunderstanding of what the apostle Paul means by "head" and his complete missing the mark on mutual subjection and servant leadership.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-09

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT If the problem was his, why doesn't he think

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT If the problem was his, why doesn't he think that picking up the broom and leading by example, and inviting the kids to participate isn't the solution?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-09

@pauldirks @KaeleyT @DeeGoingsGirl If I was your boss and I commanded you to obey me, your complete obedience to me would certainly make things work. The measure of Biblical is not simply what works. But this is not how Jesus wants our relationship...

@pauldirks @KaeleyT @DeeGoingsGirl If I was your boss and I commanded you to obey me, your complete obedience to me would certainly make things work. The measure of Biblical is not simply what works.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-08

@smashbaals Christ will rule at the second advent. He will reign on the throne of David from Jerusalem. In the mean time, "…I [Paul] urge that requests, prayers, intercession, and thanksgiving be made in behalf of all people, for kings and all who ...

@smashbaals Christ will rule at the second advent. He will reign on the throne of David from Jerusalem. In the mean time, "…I [Paul] urge that requests, prayers, intercession, and thanksgiving be ma

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-06

RT @ryanschatz: @dougponder Short answer is no women elders? On the contrary, P

RT @ryanschatz: @dougponder Short answer is no women elders? On the contrary, Paul outlays **character** qualifications for leadership (1…

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-06

@dougponder The driving force behind egalitarianism is not the culture but “for

@dougponder The driving force behind egalitarianism is not the culture but “for you are all sons” (Gal 3:26). If all sons—*now* (present active)—and all includes women and men, then who are you to di

Gal 3:26 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-06

@dougponder Short answer is no women elders? On the contrary, Paul outlays **ch

@dougponder Short answer is no women elders? On the contrary, Paul outlays **character** qualifications for leadership (1 Tim 3:1-13; Titus 1:5-9) ⎯ Paul doesn't forbid the single, the childless or w

1 Tim 3:1-13 Titus 1:5-9 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-06

@sparkobuzzer @DriverXag @ZacharyGarris This passage is such a strong corrective of the complementarian position because if women are also sons then why do they treat them as though they are not going to rule and reign with Christ one day? Are they ...

@sparkobuzzer @DriverXag @ZacharyGarris This passage is such a strong corrective of the complementarian position because if women are also sons then why do they treat them as though they are not going

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-06

@sparkobuzzer @DriverXag @ZacharyGarris Most complementarians I have interacted

@sparkobuzzer @DriverXag @ZacharyGarris Most complementarians I have interacted with believe this passage is only about salvation. It doesn’t have anything to do with there here and now and the famil

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-05

@DriverXag @sparkobuzzer @ZacharyGarris Gal 3:26 is not dealing with physical land, but the inheritance given to Jesus. It’s about salvation and everything else. This includes the church. There’s nothing passed from male to male in terms of leader...

@DriverXag @sparkobuzzer @ZacharyGarris Gal 3:26 is not dealing with physical land, but the inheritance given to Jesus. It’s about salvation and everything else. This includes the church. There’s n

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-05

@ronhenzel Are you saying that the PCA always restricted leadership to men in order to be in ecclesial fellowship? This should be a matter of conscience and ought to be removed from any requirements. What if the PCA required meeting on Saturday and...

@ronhenzel Are you saying that the PCA always restricted leadership to men in order to be in ecclesial fellowship? This should be a matter of conscience and ought to be removed from any requirements.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-05

@ronhenzel The pre-Luther Waldensiens understood that women could be leaders, so this isn’t new. The problem is that this is a secondary issue, and so one church operating with male only leadership should be able to remain in fellowship with another...

@ronhenzel The pre-Luther Waldensiens understood that women could be leaders, so this isn’t new. The problem is that this is a secondary issue, and so one church operating with male only leadership s

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-04

@ZacharyGarris I have your book—do you want me to refute it here? There is no where that says teaching men is a sin. That is not stated in 1 Tim 2:12 nor anywhere else. Teaching itself is not authoritative, the Word of God is the authority. The i...

@ZacharyGarris I have your book—do you want me to refute it here? There is no where that says teaching men is a sin. That is not stated in 1 Tim 2:12 nor anywhere else. Teaching itself is not autho

1 Tim 2:12 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-04

@ZacharyGarris But an unrepentant, willful lifestyle of sin means you are outside of the faith. Again, where—and you must provide this—is a woman speaking, teaching, leading, overseeing, pastoring EVER stated to be a sin or listed in any list of sin...

@ZacharyGarris But an unrepentant, willful lifestyle of sin means you are outside of the faith. Again, where—and you must provide this—is a woman speaking, teaching, leading, overseeing, pastoring EV

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-04

@ZacharyGarris Let me know what creed says that women cannot occupy positions of leadership or serve as a pastor or preach or teach truth. Next, you can take a look at any list of sin in scripture and you won’t find women speaking, teaching, leading...

@ZacharyGarris Let me know what creed says that women cannot occupy positions of leadership or serve as a pastor or preach or teach truth. Next, you can take a look at any list of sin in scripture an

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-04

@ZacharyGarris Firstly, I absolutely do not deny the authority of the Bible! Be

@ZacharyGarris Firstly, I absolutely do not deny the authority of the Bible! Because you disagree with me does not give you a right to claim I deny the Bible’s authority. Do you consider me in sin?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-04

RT @ryanschatz: @VoterTrump2024 @smashbaals There is this idea that God places a

RT @ryanschatz: @VoterTrump2024 @smashbaals There is this idea that God places authority structures in the home and church, but that’s not…

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-04

@VoterTrump2024 @smashbaals There is this idea that God places authority structures in the home and church, but that’s not at all what He is doing. Leadership does not imply authority. Authority is in the Word, not the person. Leadership is carryi...

@VoterTrump2024 @smashbaals There is this idea that God places authority structures in the home and church, but that’s not at all what He is doing. Leadership does not imply authority. Authority is

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-04

@DrSSteele @smashbaals Scripture matters 100%! Every word, all the context, the

@DrSSteele @smashbaals Scripture matters 100%! Every word, all the context, the grammar, the author and audience⎯all of it. What parts of scripture are you ignoring?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-04

@DrSSteele @smashbaals Where is gender role in the text? If its ordained by God, role should be there as that's what everyone thinks is so important. Primacy means that it's the males that must do all the leading, preaching, judging doctrine, overs...

@DrSSteele @smashbaals Where is gender role in the text? If its ordained by God, role should be there as that's what everyone thinks is so important. Primacy means that it's the males that must do a

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-04

@OrinRomine @ryancduff It doesn't say "women (plural) must not teach men (plural)" nor does it say "a woman (singular) must not teach men (plural)"⎯it says clearly "a woman/wife must not teach or 'authentein' a man/husband"⎯what this is referring to ...

@OrinRomine @ryancduff It doesn't say "women (plural) must not teach men (plural)" nor does it say "a woman (singular) must not teach men (plural)"⎯it says clearly "a woman/wife must not teach or 'aut

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-03

@Pathfinder4545 @pastherandie @ChristVictorous @Brian_Sauve Why use the word hea

@Pathfinder4545 @pastherandie @ChristVictorous @Brian_Sauve Why use the word head? The husband loves and leads. Yes, but does this mean the wife doesn’t love? Clearly not. The same reason why she

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-03

@pastherandie @lastadolphin @Brian_Sauve Leading is possible but this doesn’t mean authority over or the boss of or the final decision maker. Jesus says the greatest leader is the greatest slave. Ideally both lead in an equal partnership according ...

@pastherandie @lastadolphin @Brian_Sauve Leading is possible but this doesn’t mean authority over or the boss of or the final decision maker. Jesus says the greatest leader is the greatest slave. Id

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-03

@pastherandie @Pathfinder4545 @ChristVictorous @Brian_Sauve Yes! And from Adam’s own flesh making her literally part of his own body (which is why marriage is considered a one flesh union). The reason Paul refers to the creation order is not becaus...

@pastherandie @Pathfinder4545 @ChristVictorous @Brian_Sauve Yes! And from Adam’s own flesh making her literally part of his own body (which is why marriage is considered a one flesh union). The reas

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-03

@pastherandie @lastadolphin @Brian_Sauve This is actually the one instance where authority over the spouse is even mentioned! (I know of no other reference) "The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does; and likewise the...

@pastherandie @lastadolphin @Brian_Sauve This is actually the one instance where authority over the spouse is even mentioned! (I know of no other reference) "The wife does not have authority over he

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-03

@GlennDavies @KaeleyT @PrestonSprinkle I actually don’t think that the complementarian view leads to oppression of women *necessarily.* I have been part of several complementarian churches and they typically just reserved the lead pastoral role for a...

@GlennDavies @KaeleyT @PrestonSprinkle I actually don’t think that the complementarian view leads to oppression of women *necessarily.* I have been part of several complementarian churches and they ty

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