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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-17

@LynnCDell2 @ronhenzel There we go again—judicial authority. This is all about authority of one gender over the others or hierarchy of authority within the church which is what Jesus spoke against clearly to his apostles. And curiously you say that w...

@LynnCDell2 @ronhenzel There we go again—judicial authority. This is all about authority of one gender over the others or hierarchy of authority within the church which is what Jesus spoke against cle

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-17

@LynnCDell2 @ronhenzel If that’s the meaning then it presumes this is all about hierarchy of authority which is not something we get from Jesus at all who says things like “it is not to be this way among you” showing that this kind of understanding i...

@LynnCDell2 @ronhenzel If that’s the meaning then it presumes this is all about hierarchy of authority which is not something we get from Jesus at all who says things like “it is not to be this way am

Mark 10:42-45 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-09

@pauldirks @AngelaGraceLOU @KaeleyT Yes and no matter how much overlap there is, women are not to be elders because it violates a God ordained order, right? In the end, I think you try to validate the view of a God-ordained gender role hierarchy by l...

@pauldirks @AngelaGraceLOU @KaeleyT Yes and no matter how much overlap there is, women are not to be elders because it violates a God ordained order, right? In the end, I think you try to validate the

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-08

@carlaskaufel I would agree that marriage is *not* about authority, but if the wife is the only one who submits, then that is the very definition of a hierarchy of authority, is it not? A husband loving and giving himself up is great. Is this not so...

@carlaskaufel I would agree that marriage is *not* about authority, but if the wife is the only one who submits, then that is the very definition of a hierarchy of authority, is it not? A husband lov

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-07

@kgaugelo_N @VoicesHead100 @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Kind of an interesting mistake huh? So if we all subject ourselves to one another then whatever v22 means it cannot be hierarchy between the husband and wife since v21...

@kgaugelo_N @VoicesHead100 @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Kind of an interesting mistake huh? So if we all subject ourselves to one another then whatever v22 means it cannot b

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-01-20

Amen! Please reconsider your stance on gender hierarchy and the role of women i

Amen! Please reconsider your stance on gender hierarchy and the role of women in marriage and the church. https://t.co/2QVtQl6cSd

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-01-19

@FreeThinkerAng @TheMuppetPastor Paul refers to the creation order between Adam and Eve and relates this to the fact that Eve was deceived but Adam was not. Paul is not using this to support relational hierarchy but to hone in on that first deceptio...

@FreeThinkerAng @TheMuppetPastor Paul refers to the creation order between Adam and Eve and relates this to the fact that Eve was deceived but Adam was not. Paul is not using this to support relation

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-01-16

Does 1 Cor 11:3 speak of authority hierarchy? Take another look. https://t.co/IO

Does 1 Cor 11:3 speak of authority hierarchy? Take another look. https://t.co/IORdUu0T3w

1 Cor 11:3 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-01-12

@jabberwookie80 @harmonizedgrace Nothing in Eph 5 says "wives obey your husbands." Also...Eph 5:21 says "and subject [ὑποτάσσω, hypotasso] yourselves to one another in the fear of Christ." So if we are to subject ourselves to each other, then whate...

@jabberwookie80 @harmonizedgrace Nothing in Eph 5 says "wives obey your husbands." Also...Eph 5:21 says "and subject [ὑποτάσσω, hypotasso] yourselves to one another in the fear of Christ." So if we

Eph 5:21 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-14

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT Then by that you are sanctified by your wife

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT Then by that you are sanctified by your wife also, so you are saying there is no hierarchy. Welcome to the egalitarian fold! ☺️

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-12

@pauldirks @KaeleyT @DeeGoingsGirl Kephale having the possible meaning of source (supported by how the word is being used in its context) is absolutely important to the egalitarian view of these supposed gender hierarchy passages. Everything goes ba...

@pauldirks @KaeleyT @DeeGoingsGirl Kephale having the possible meaning of source (supported by how the word is being used in its context) is absolutely important to the egalitarian view of these suppo

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-06

@sparkobuzzer @DriverXag @ZacharyGarris Most complementarians I have interacted

@sparkobuzzer @DriverXag @ZacharyGarris Most complementarians I have interacted with believe this passage is only about salvation. It doesn’t have anything to do with there here and now and the famil

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-03

@pastherandie @Pathfinder4545 @ChristVictorous @Brian_Sauve Yes! And from Adam’s own flesh making her literally part of his own body (which is why marriage is considered a one flesh union). The reason Paul refers to the creation order is not becaus...

@pastherandie @Pathfinder4545 @ChristVictorous @Brian_Sauve Yes! And from Adam’s own flesh making her literally part of his own body (which is why marriage is considered a one flesh union). The reas

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@ThandaM2 @Brian_Sauve No, there is no evidence of any gender roles, or ruling of the man over the woman or authority hierarchy in the minds of any that were present. God didn't say to Adam "Why didn't to take authority over your wife and make her o...

@ThandaM2 @Brian_Sauve No, there is no evidence of any gender roles, or ruling of the man over the woman or authority hierarchy in the minds of any that were present. God didn't say to Adam "Why didn

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-20

@autocorrect2_0 Most seem to get the idea there is a hierarchy of authority from

@autocorrect2_0 Most seem to get the idea there is a hierarchy of authority from 1 Cor 11:3. Take another look. https://t.co/IORdUu0T3w

1 Cor 11:3 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-10-03

@elizabethprata @pastorpilgrim @Lily_Warrior @aimeebyrdPYW @JJumping @ajjumping God is also a helper and that doesn’t mean He is underneath our authority. The creation order has to do with deception, not authority. There is no hierarchy displayed i...

@elizabethprata @pastorpilgrim @Lily_Warrior @aimeebyrdPYW @JJumping @ajjumping God is also a helper and that doesn’t mean He is underneath our authority. The creation order has to do with deception,

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-28

Here’s an explanation for what seems like Paul arguing for hierarchy of the man

Here’s an explanation for what seems like Paul arguing for hierarchy of the man over the woman in 1 Cor 11:3. https://t.co/y2W82K1RWH

1 Cor 11:3 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-22

@AEQEA @blackmamba_btc @BrotherBoaz @nakedpastor Paul wasn’t advocating for a hierarchy of authority. He was talking about Jesus being the source or origin of His church and Adam being the source or origin of Eve thus giving the grounding for marria...

@AEQEA @blackmamba_btc @BrotherBoaz @nakedpastor Paul wasn’t advocating for a hierarchy of authority. He was talking about Jesus being the source or origin of His church and Adam being the source or

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-19

@pauldirks @PerinDana The Apostle’s teaching to each gender is not inseparably tethered to patriarchal hierarchy. Here’s what we see Peter aiming at in his first letter. The central theme of 1 Peter is the embodiment of faith in daily life, a faith...

@pauldirks @PerinDana The Apostle’s teaching to each gender is not inseparably tethered to patriarchal hierarchy. Here’s what we see Peter aiming at in his first letter. The central theme of 1 Peter

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-14

@SayyadinaHeresy @SpillmanThom @keirburrows @Saturniidae8 Paul refers to the creation order not to explain hierarchy or authority—otherwise animals would be over humans—but to explain why Adam wasn’t deceived and Eve was. Adam saw God creating thing...

@SayyadinaHeresy @SpillmanThom @keirburrows @Saturniidae8 Paul refers to the creation order not to explain hierarchy or authority—otherwise animals would be over humans—but to explain why Adam wasn’t

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-09

@CrankyKat @DeniedTitan @RevJacquiLewis There’s a soft side to this complementarian view that is certainly appealing, but it still misses some things about these passages and inserts authority and hierarchy and gender based roles that are not what th...

@CrankyKat @DeniedTitan @RevJacquiLewis There’s a soft side to this complementarian view that is certainly appealing, but it still misses some things about these passages and inserts authority and hie

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-08-25

@pkh7276_pkh @MarkGrote @OperHealAmerica It doesn’t need to say that here. If everyone submits to everyone, then we know that Eph 5 cannot be encouraging one to rule over the other or a gender hierarchy. Everything goes back to Genesis, and there w...

@pkh7276_pkh @MarkGrote @OperHealAmerica It doesn’t need to say that here. If everyone submits to everyone, then we know that Eph 5 cannot be encouraging one to rule over the other or a gender hierar

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-08-11

@JohnMoo26668690 @ElizabethOstli1 @WillEhrendreich Nowhere in Genesis 1-3 do we see any of the persons present acting as if they are aware of an authority hierarchy. God didn't tell Adam he had authority over Eve. Eve didn't behave like she underst...

@JohnMoo26668690 @ElizabethOstli1 @WillEhrendreich Nowhere in Genesis 1-3 do we see any of the persons present acting as if they are aware of an authority hierarchy. God didn't tell Adam he had autho

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-08-08

@uncledando @ChristChurchTe1 @TomBuck I’m not disputing the apostles and the Law. You are making baseless allegations. Maybe you think that’s fun and I’m supposed to laugh, but you should be concerned about truth. Given that God is over all humani...

@uncledando @ChristChurchTe1 @TomBuck I’m not disputing the apostles and the Law. You are making baseless allegations. Maybe you think that’s fun and I’m supposed to laugh, but you should be concern

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-08-08

@uncledando @ChristChurchTe1 @TomBuck Egalitarianism is a philosophy that says there is no hierarchy of one gender over the other, no ruling or authority of simply because of gender. Gender and ethnicity are baked into the OT system. Any male with ...

@uncledando @ChristChurchTe1 @TomBuck Egalitarianism is a philosophy that says there is no hierarchy of one gender over the other, no ruling or authority of simply because of gender. Gender and ethni

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-26

@Snuggernaut1 @chadlyrose @sovereignbrah You need to read this passage in context and make sense of the grammar. Paul's difficult grammar is because of what he tells Timothy in the first chapter. And the reference to Adam and Eve is not about hiera...

@Snuggernaut1 @chadlyrose @sovereignbrah You need to read this passage in context and make sense of the grammar. Paul's difficult grammar is because of what he tells Timothy in the first chapter. An

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-22

@harmonizedgrace Depends on what you mean by "fundamental" as the biology is fundamental in every cell (XY vs XX chromosomes), but men and women are equally able to lead as they are both rulers. There was no hierarchy or authority structures created...

@harmonizedgrace Depends on what you mean by "fundamental" as the biology is fundamental in every cell (XY vs XX chromosomes), but men and women are equally able to lead as they are both rulers. Ther

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-22

@BogdanOancea77 @BarakWatson @justasbefuddled @MikeWingerii When we are debating these issues, you cannot just quote the Bible, you have to explain it. What does head mean in this context? Is Paul referring to authority and hierarchy to explain the...

@BogdanOancea77 @BarakWatson @justasbefuddled @MikeWingerii When we are debating these issues, you cannot just quote the Bible, you have to explain it. What does head mean in this context? Is Paul r

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-21

@justasbefuddled @MikeWingerii That is precisely what the egalitarian view is.

@justasbefuddled @MikeWingerii That is precisely what the egalitarian view is. That there are no gender based hierarchy or authority structures promoted in the Bible for families and churches.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-21

@MikeWingerii As an egalitarian, I agree with points #1-4. I take issue with #5 because it says there is an inherent hierarchy and authority structure between the husband and wife and between males and females in the church. That said, if you do a ...

@MikeWingerii As an egalitarian, I agree with points #1-4. I take issue with #5 because it says there is an inherent hierarchy and authority structure between the husband and wife and between males a

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-22

@BibleBashed I’m an egalitarian and don’t reject the Biblical anthropology in Ge

@BibleBashed I’m an egalitarian and don’t reject the Biblical anthropology in Gen 1-2. Unless you are referring to roles only for men or gender hierarchy or authority of the man over the woman, but t

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-16

@m_a_nilles @southernpresby @5pointsMckinley @AnnaGraceWood Adam and Eve were of

@m_a_nilles @southernpresby @5pointsMckinley @AnnaGraceWood Adam and Eve were of the same flesh. How does that communicate hierarchy? Animals were made before Adam but don't rule over the man, so be

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-13

@ymmotrojam @brmorris @CherylSchatz The questions to be answered are: 1/ what does the creation order have to do with deception, and 2/ are there any authority of the man over the woman conveyed by those present (God, Adam, Eve, the Serpent). No one...

@ymmotrojam @brmorris @CherylSchatz The questions to be answered are: 1/ what does the creation order have to do with deception, and 2/ are there any authority of the man over the woman conveyed by th

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Scripture Commentary debate point

Hypotasso in v21 paired with allelon (one to another) is explicitly reciprocal. A hierarchy has a top and bottom; allelon hypotasso has neither.

[egalitarian_argument] From: Eph 5:22 and Mutual Submission

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Scripture Commentary debate point

V22 borrows its verb from v21, so the submission in view for wives must be the same kind: voluntary, mutual, self-giving, not one-directional hierarchy.

[egalitarian_argument] From: Eph 5:22 and Mutual Submission

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Scripture Commentary debate point

Reading v22 as a hierarchy command breaks the semantic logic Paul established in v21. Two categorically different concepts cannot share the same governing verb.

[egalitarian_argument] From: Eph 5:22 and Mutual Submission

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