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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-03

@smashbaals Men can literally: - Engage in unprotected sex, often avoiding its consequences - Consume porn, fueling the objectification of women - Claim authority over women, yet shirk responsibility for societal outcomes And when called to the car...

@smashbaals Men can literally: - Engage in unprotected sex, often avoiding its consequences - Consume porn, fueling the objectification of women - Claim authority over women, yet shirk responsibility

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@lastadolphin @IvanIvez440026 @Brian_Sauve Interesting take. I sense you are not advocating for blind authority to obedience, but simply using healthy sexual (marital) relationships to show how the man’s strength if harnessed appropriately is exactl...

@lastadolphin @IvanIvez440026 @Brian_Sauve Interesting take. I sense you are not advocating for blind authority to obedience, but simply using healthy sexual (marital) relationships to show how the m

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@IvanIvez440026 @lastadolphin @Brian_Sauve In a relationship, the husband and wi

@IvanIvez440026 @lastadolphin @Brian_Sauve In a relationship, the husband and wife lead; children follow.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@ThandaM2 @SarahHOC @lukepwilliams @Brian_Sauve By reading in context and not ju

@ThandaM2 @SarahHOC @lukepwilliams @Brian_Sauve By reading in context and not just blindly taking the English word in your own context, you will see that Paul is referring to source and origin, not au

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@lastadolphin @Brian_Sauve If you were in danger and your 8 year old daughter ye

@lastadolphin @Brian_Sauve If you were in danger and your 8 year old daughter yells "stay back," would you listen? Influence and authority are two different things.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@ChristVictorous @Brian_Sauve I actually don't think this, but many complementarians see this as the role of the "head" of the marriage and church. For context, I am an engineer and both lead and serve an individual contributor role on projects at a...

@ChristVictorous @Brian_Sauve I actually don't think this, but many complementarians see this as the role of the "head" of the marriage and church. For context, I am an engineer and both lead and ser

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@KaeleyT @GlennDavies @PrestonSprinkle I think Kaeley’s point cannot be ignored. We cannot lump all moral failings onto one side. I think its important to recognize that there are some who see the fact of women leading in scripture (albeit not as m...

@KaeleyT @GlennDavies @PrestonSprinkle I think Kaeley’s point cannot be ignored. We cannot lump all moral failings onto one side. I think its important to recognize that there are some who see the f

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@ThandaM2 @Brian_Sauve No, there is no evidence of any gender roles, or ruling of the man over the woman or authority hierarchy in the minds of any that were present. God didn't say to Adam "Why didn't to take authority over your wife and make her o...

@ThandaM2 @Brian_Sauve No, there is no evidence of any gender roles, or ruling of the man over the woman or authority hierarchy in the minds of any that were present. God didn't say to Adam "Why didn

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@lastadolphin @Brian_Sauve Interesting. I think men need to lead more, but I don't think that means they need to be in authority over their wives and break every tie in decision making. Egalitarianism is not Matriarchy; it is equality, mutuality an...

@lastadolphin @Brian_Sauve Interesting. I think men need to lead more, but I don't think that means they need to be in authority over their wives and break every tie in decision making. Egalitariani

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@StothersRyan @GodandQountry Where are you getting authority from? I think you are thinking that submission means unquestioning allegiance or obedience to, but this is not what is going on in Eph 5:21. Biblically, it means willingly "standing under...

@StothersRyan @GodandQountry Where are you getting authority from? I think you are thinking that submission means unquestioning allegiance or obedience to, but this is not what is going on in Eph 5:2

Eph 5:21 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@haymes_joshua Here's a comment I shared with a pastor friend of mine that you may find helpful. I don't deny male headship, I just use the context to show that the word doesn't mean authority but source. The only place authority between the husban...

@haymes_joshua Here's a comment I shared with a pastor friend of mine that you may find helpful. I don't deny male headship, I just use the context to show that the word doesn't mean authority but so

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@RushiXmakima @MaryThurma27729 I agree with you that the church as it is especially in the west is unnecessarily fractured. I had a pastor tell me that I was welcome to become a member but since I disagreed with him on Calvinism, I would not be allo...

@RushiXmakima @MaryThurma27729 I agree with you that the church as it is especially in the west is unnecessarily fractured. I had a pastor tell me that I was welcome to become a member but since I di

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@ronhenzel The only meaning I'm twisting is the one you seemed to shoehorn into the text. Eve will be saved...if they continue in faith...? Who is the they? I think we have to take how Paul was using his words and not try to twist them to mean som...

@ronhenzel The only meaning I'm twisting is the one you seemed to shoehorn into the text. Eve will be saved...if they continue in faith...? Who is the they? I think we have to take how Paul was usi

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-01

@NewsJun68601116 @Brian_Sauve Where does the Bible speak about gender roles? Wh

@NewsJun68601116 @Brian_Sauve Where does the Bible speak about gender roles? Where is the word role even in the text? Why would a woman being a co-leader of her home with her husband—notice, both ar

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-01

@Jayessaych @Dioko1462 @Brian_Sauve If we are talking about guys that take no responsibility and instead just watch football while the wife does everything—that kind of thing, then I’d be in full agreement with you. There should be shared responsibi...

@Jayessaych @Dioko1462 @Brian_Sauve If we are talking about guys that take no responsibility and instead just watch football while the wife does everything—that kind of thing, then I’d be in full agre

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-01

@DST_QA I don't make this a "hill to die on" as I have attended complementarian churches and am able to work within their restrictions. However, I find that most comp churches won't allow those who are convinced egalitarians into leadership, so it h...

@DST_QA I don't make this a "hill to die on" as I have attended complementarian churches and am able to work within their restrictions. However, I find that most comp churches won't allow those who a

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-01

@ronhenzel Most people have never heard of this term, so to the average person...it's complicated. You have extensive training in Greek and years of teaching it, so for you this is a yawner. But yes, this is not unique to Greek. I'm glad you agree...

@ronhenzel Most people have never heard of this term, so to the average person...it's complicated. You have extensive training in Greek and years of teaching it, so for you this is a yawner. But yes

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-30

@Duke456521 First, James White is most definitely not an egalitarian. But his grammar is right and people respect him (I am a nobody). The video is really short and only addresses this one point on the anaphoric use of the article. Second, how is ...

@Duke456521 First, James White is most definitely not an egalitarian. But his grammar is right and people respect him (I am a nobody). The video is really short and only addresses this one point on

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-30

Here is another overview of 1 Tim 2:11-15 which is a bit longer than the short preface to my chart in the first post of this thread. Hopefully you find it helpful. For Mike Winger: I agree with you in that I don’t see Artemis involved in this situa...

Here is another overview of 1 Tim 2:11-15 which is a bit longer than the short preface to my chart in the first post of this thread. Hopefully you find it helpful. For Mike Winger: I agree with you

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-30

For a much more thorough explanation of 1 Tim 2:11-15 along with reference mater

For a much more thorough explanation of 1 Tim 2:11-15 along with reference material related to Genesis 2 and the creation order, see the following thread. https://t.co/lwAJ5mgNRm

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-30

Here is an explanation by Dr. James White explaining how the anaphoric use works. It's a bit complicated, so I hope that this clip helps you understand how I arrived at this in my exegesis of 1 Tim 2:11-15. This is how I inferred that the anaphoric...

Here is an explanation by Dr. James White explaining how the anaphoric use works. It's a bit complicated, so I hope that this clip helps you understand how I arrived at this in my exegesis of 1 Tim 2

1 Tim 2:11-15 1 Tim 2:14 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-29

@ymmotrojam @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Tom. I'm not making this up. I'm just describing the grammar. A particular deceived woman is simply noting that Paul moves from plural "all women" to "a woman/wife" and in v14 says...

@ymmotrojam @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Tom. I'm not making this up. I'm just describing the grammar. A particular deceived woman is simply noting that Paul moves from pl

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-27

@3HillsMinor @Deigratia1985 It doesn’t go against the teachings of Paul, but there may be some disagreement in church history no doubt. The pre-Luther Waldensiens accepted women as leaders and pastors, but they weren’t the mainstream. Luther disagr...

@3HillsMinor @Deigratia1985 It doesn’t go against the teachings of Paul, but there may be some disagreement in church history no doubt. The pre-Luther Waldensiens accepted women as leaders and pastor

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-27

I’m meeting people who feel like gender roles are connected to the gospel and that the husband having authority over the wife in a marriage demonstrates God’s order to the world. I think this is a misunderstanding of the scriptures. The following m...

I’m meeting people who feel like gender roles are connected to the gospel and that the husband having authority over the wife in a marriage demonstrates God’s order to the world. I think this is a mi

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-27

@ymmotrojam @Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 Can you give me an idea of how this authority plays out for you? - She wants another child, you don’t. You talk about it, but still disagree. What do you do? - She does NOT want another child, you DO. You ...

@ymmotrojam @Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 Can you give me an idea of how this authority plays out for you? - She wants another child, you don’t. You talk about it, but still disagree. What do you do

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-27

@ymmotrojam @Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 What authority do YOU have that you ar

@ymmotrojam @Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 What authority do YOU have that you are to use over your wife? (assuming you have one)

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-27

RT @ryanschatz: @Deigratia1985 @ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 But I’m in charge, rig

RT @ryanschatz: @Deigratia1985 @ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 But I’m in charge, right? Then by the authority vested in me because of my famil…

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-27

@Deigratia1985 @ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 But I’m in charge, right? Then by the

@Deigratia1985 @ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 But I’m in charge, right? Then by the authority vested in me because of my family jewels, I proclaim that my wife and I are equals in our marriage. There…fi

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-27

@ymmotrojam So what you think that Paul is saying is that those women who believ

@ymmotrojam So what you think that Paul is saying is that those women who believe they should be able to speak as God leads should be ignored because they are females and they are usurping the primacy

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-27

@SimonReye @hashim_warren @Duke456521 @MikeWingerii Also, it appears you didn't read my post that I linked when discussing about why I conclude the way I do on authentein being about murder. Here is the quote: "The accuracy of the NTS articles of G...

@SimonReye @hashim_warren @Duke456521 @MikeWingerii Also, it appears you didn't read my post that I linked when discussing about why I conclude the way I do on authentein being about murder. Here is

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-26

@SimonReye @hashim_warren @Duke456521 @MikeWingerii Linda Belleville showed other places where the verb form clearly means to murder; the verb form is very rare. Timothy would know what this meant, but Timothy would certainly not have thought it m...

@SimonReye @hashim_warren @Duke456521 @MikeWingerii Linda Belleville showed other places where the verb form clearly means to murder; the verb form is very rare. Timothy would know what this meant,

1 Tim 2:2 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-26

@SimonReye @hashim_warren @Duke456521 @MikeWingerii That word is only used once in the NT! It cannot mean authority because the word for authority is in 1 Tim 2:2 and such authority like in government is not to be found within the church! Mike cann...

@SimonReye @hashim_warren @Duke456521 @MikeWingerii That word is only used once in the NT! It cannot mean authority because the word for authority is in 1 Tim 2:2 and such authority like in governmen

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-26

@SimonReye @hashim_warren @Duke456521 @MikeWingerii I believe Paul was searching for a word that represented perfectly what he was getting at. If he wanted to say a woman should not take a place of authority, he had several common words he could hav...

@SimonReye @hashim_warren @Duke456521 @MikeWingerii I believe Paul was searching for a word that represented perfectly what he was getting at. If he wanted to say a woman should not take a place of a

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-26

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam 1 Tim 2:11 doesn't say women cannot be pastors. Titus 1 uses generic pronouns like τις (tis⎯anyone, someone), same for 1 Tim 3. Headship has nothing to do with authority but source relationships. You have been thoroughly...

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam 1 Tim 2:11 doesn't say women cannot be pastors. Titus 1 uses generic pronouns like τις (tis⎯anyone, someone), same for 1 Tim 3. Headship has nothing to do with authority b

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-26

@ymmotrojam Is church history authoritative for you?

@ymmotrojam Is church history authoritative for you?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-26

@SimonReye @Duke456521 @MikeWingerii @hashim_warren The verb αὐθεντεῖν (authentein) that Paul used is used only this once in the New Testament (called a hapax logomenon) and was rarely used outside of the Bible. Linda Belleville did an exhaustive se...

@SimonReye @Duke456521 @MikeWingerii @hashim_warren The verb αὐθεντεῖν (authentein) that Paul used is used only this once in the New Testament (called a hapax logomenon) and was rarely used outside of

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-26

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 If a church goes egalitarian in rebellion to what they think is the clear teaching of the text, this spells problems. I agree with that. But that is not what I and my church are doing. We don’t believe that these scriptu...

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 If a church goes egalitarian in rebellion to what they think is the clear teaching of the text, this spells problems. I agree with that. But that is not what I and my chur

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-26

@RushiXmakima Thanks for contributing! I agree that at least the way we view pastors today goes beyond what they were in the first churches. Today we seem to desire a charismatic leader, someone who will just tell us what to do, rather than someone...

@RushiXmakima Thanks for contributing! I agree that at least the way we view pastors today goes beyond what they were in the first churches. Today we seem to desire a charismatic leader, someone who

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-26

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam They can teach or preach in whatever capacity their gifting allows them to. What they cannot do is teach false doctrine which leads away from faith in Christ's work alone which is what the woman in Ephesus was doing. I'm ...

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam They can teach or preach in whatever capacity their gifting allows them to. What they cannot do is teach false doctrine which leads away from faith in Christ's work alone w

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-26

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 I'm simply taking Convexity's point seriously. You c

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 I'm simply taking Convexity's point seriously. You can prophesy authoritatively...just not in church. Ok, then, outside the front door?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-26

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam You are undermining your own case by recognizing thes

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam You are undermining your own case by recognizing these facts. If a woman can exercise such an authoritative Scripture-level prophetic gift with men present, then what is le

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-25

@NSanctification Ok, so women can teach and perform the same tasks as elders, just so long as they avoid doing it for 2 hours on Sunday morning between 10am and 12pm? So in their homes is fine? What do you mean by be in authority over a man? Does ...

@NSanctification Ok, so women can teach and perform the same tasks as elders, just so long as they avoid doing it for 2 hours on Sunday morning between 10am and 12pm? So in their homes is fine? What

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-25

@jdenehar We follow elders if they relate God's instructions accurately. So who we are following is actually God and His Word. Elders don't have a special teaching "authority" but a responsibility and a service to offer. About headship, take a loo...

@jdenehar We follow elders if they relate God's instructions accurately. So who we are following is actually God and His Word. Elders don't have a special teaching "authority" but a responsibility a

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-25

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam Yes, Paul makes his argument from the order of creation. No, there is no mention of authority. First doesn't make superior⎯if so, the animals would rule over the man. The first born is just first, not the best. So what'...

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam Yes, Paul makes his argument from the order of creation. No, there is no mention of authority. First doesn't make superior⎯if so, the animals would rule over the man. The

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-25

@No_Sugar_m8 @smashbaals Why would you say that Jewish believers held contempt for Paul? Paul was accepted by the leaders and members of the Jerusalem church. There were letters circulating supposedly from him but which were forgeries, so he has re...

@No_Sugar_m8 @smashbaals Why would you say that Jewish believers held contempt for Paul? Paul was accepted by the leaders and members of the Jerusalem church. There were letters circulating supposed

2 Thess 2:1-2 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-25

@Deigratia1985 I didn't say I felt that way. I'm reasoning about what mutual su

@Deigratia1985 I didn't say I felt that way. I'm reasoning about what mutual submission means (Eph 5:21) and what authority in the church must not mean. Feel free to prove me wrong.

Eph 5:21 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-25

@smashbaals Paul has authored many letters and made plain he is the author even

@smashbaals Paul has authored many letters and made plain he is the author even writing in his own hand sometimes to prove it. Hebrews is a stellar work; why would Paul not identify himself. What fa

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-24

This is an important point about authority in the Christian faith. 👇 https://t.c

This is an important point about authority in the Christian faith. 👇 https://t.co/vZivk8rTeh

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-24

@3HillsMinor What authority does anyone have in the church? If my pastor says I can’t serve on the choir, I willingly submit what I want to keep the peace, but I don’t obey him because he’s the “authority.” If he says I need to obey this or that in...

@3HillsMinor What authority does anyone have in the church? If my pastor says I can’t serve on the choir, I willingly submit what I want to keep the peace, but I don’t obey him because he’s the “auth

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-24

@3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning That’s what I’m contending. I’m contending this is not referring to all women because Paul explicitly uses the singular and specifies it is a specific woman because of the anaphoric reference to...

@3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning That’s what I’m contending. I’m contending this is not referring to all women because Paul explicitly uses the singular and specifies it is a sp

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