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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-08-11

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek Jesus washed Judas' feet at the last supper...Paul called himself "a bondservant of Christ." We are all servants. The context has to be used to determine whether the person is a leader or not. It is leaders t...

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek Jesus washed Judas' feet at the last supper...Paul called himself "a bondservant of Christ." We are all servants. The context has to be used to determine wheth

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-08-10

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek Again, the apostles are chosen before the church is instituted. Just because men were chosen first doesn’t mean women cannot follow as apostles (though different than the foundational apostles). Just like chur...

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek Again, the apostles are chosen before the church is instituted. Just because men were chosen first doesn’t mean women cannot follow as apostles (though differen

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-08-09

@GlennDavies @NancyRPearcey So the difference is that patriarchalists (P) assert women are subservient to males and complementarians (C) assert women don’t lead in the family and church because it doesn’t follow God’s order? So P says women are crea...

@GlennDavies @NancyRPearcey So the difference is that patriarchalists (P) assert women are subservient to males and complementarians (C) assert women don’t lead in the family and church because it doe

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek Jesus washed Judas' feet at the last supper...Paul called himself "a bondservant of Christ." We are all servants. The context has to be used to determine whether the person is a leader or not. It is leaders t...

@outcatching @GlennDavies @danitreweek Again, the apostles are chosen before the church is instituted. Just because men were chosen first doesn’t mean women cannot follow as apostles (though different than the foundational apostles). Just like chur...

@GlennDavies @NancyRPearcey So the difference is that patriarchalists (P) assert women are subservient to males and complementarians (C) assert women don’t lead in the family and church because it doesn’t follow God’s order? So P says women are crea...

@ReillyLiner @ronhenzel So, Reilly, before I go on to spend time explaining all these verses which took you a minute to post, mind explaining how these verses specifically teach that God predestines some to have faith to believe and others not to be ...

@outcatching @TomBuck Firstly, all believers are priests already. You are right to think that leadership requires mature examples, but 1 Tim 3:2 says literally “one wife husband” which doesn’t mean married (Paul isn’t married) but faithful if marrie...

@ronhenzel @richjmatt26 @edlars53 @triplett_mark @deli_cue Intriguing how Calvin

@uncledando @ChristChurchTe1 @TomBuck “A man will often know much less than his wife” - Interesting you admit this. “…this has nothing to do with his authority.” - Well, yes, if God gave the man authority over his wife then her knowledge would have ...

@uncledando @ChristChurchTe1 @TomBuck Egalitarianism is a philosophy that says there is no hierarchy of one gender over the other, no ruling or authority of simply because of gender. Gender and ethnicity are baked into the OT system. Any male with ...

@uncledando @ChristChurchTe1 @TomBuck You are right in that the husband is the kephale of his wife (since marriage always refers back to the first marriage). The problem is that you presume kephale means authority over or rule over. It means source...

@uncledando @ChristChurchTe1 @TomBuck So where does that leave single women? I have a feeling we have a totally different idea of what leading means. Both the husband and the wife lead in different ways and different times. It is a mutual leadersh...

@AJG797 @TomBuck Yes, God gave "man" dominion, the "male and female" man (aka mankind). True, most people are not gifted to properly handle authority, but it has nothing to do with one's gender or how much muscle they have...or how angry they can ge...

@anahnemoo @William_E_Wolfe This is divisive!! Since when is allowing women to preach true doctrine or lead based on God’s gifting a gospel issue?! In some ways it is because of Gal 3:28 and you can be certain women were saved just like men in the ...

@TheLone73479323 @RenOfMen @ZacharyGarris @jerr_rrej To say that it is worshippi

@ChrisHohnholz You make good points here. And clearly men can be deceived and women can rebel against what they know. However, there is no evidence of authority or leadership in the original creation. Yes, God's sovereign will was to create the ma...

@ronhenzel I get what you are saying...but sometimes a church is "lifeless" beca

@Kdubtru You are just showing there’s a spectrum of male priority in leadership. If patriarchy seems too extreme you can be complementarian. If you don’t believe women speaking in church is shameful you can still believe that she is meant to not ju...

@ronhenzel @YouHaveFought It’s good to be passionate and of course we wouldn’t hold to a belief if we didn’t really think it was true. It’s also hard to change your beliefs. Further, one may have a lot of followers or may get removed from your chur...

@YouHaveFought @ronhenzel Wow…he won’t baptize you until you believe in Calvinism? That doesn’t sound very healthy. I also spoke to pastors of two churches who wouldn’t allow me to be a leader because I’m not a Calvinist, but they certainly would a...

@BrandonCWat @William_E_Wolfe So Jesus made an exception to Constantine which Wolfe implies is now our mandate? Jesus said⎯and with all authority by the way⎯ "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciple...

@Schweinzig @HwsEleutheroi I realize we disagree…but even most complementarians

@theophysicus @HwsEleutheroi I think the linkage is there when someone’s views are because of culture and not because of scripture. But for those who get there by examining scripture, it does not lead to progressivism. Anything you do to prioritize...

@OccamsBraiser @iheartJ37 @MikeWingerii You may have helped me find a better explanation in the lexicons so not only am I not embarrassed, I’m elated! I am able to read the Bible in context so I can understand it but sometimes these lexical resource...

@shortgeorge2 @Grokingreality Who is “the woman”? Why didn’t Paul say “Eve”? ht

@Chad4328 As a church leader, I wanted to find another Biblically faithful church, so I looked for it amongst my reformed brethren. They wouldn’t allow me to lead in their church. These pastors wouldn’t claim it was a primary issue, but a level “1....

@OccamsBraiser @iheartJ37 @MikeWingerii - yes, women speaking is gender specific. But why only women? Why is their speech shameful, base, filthy? - the only ones who have to learn at home are wives. But Paul says: "For you can all prophesy one by...

@ronhenzel Also by Augustine: ”I should not believe the gospel unless I were mov

@William_E_Wolfe The answer to patriarchalism and feminism which are on the right and left is egalitarianism. Egalitarians understand general differences between men and women but that these do not prevent qualified women from leadership. In fact, ...

@danieleleven32 A lot of people take Lewis as an authority. We have to get back

@BogdanOancea77 I'm not starting from a pre-conceived idea of egalitarianism. I was raised with the idea that women were not allowed to preach and that the leadership role was male only. The CBE article you linked makes the following comment: "In J...

@BogdanOancea77 @BarakWatson @justasbefuddled Verses 11 and 12 contain an anarthrous noun (without the article), so in Greek, when we have a later reference with the article (v14 "the woman"), it is taken as an anaphoric reference back to the anarthr...

@harmonizedgrace Depends on what you mean by "fundamental" as the biology is fundamental in every cell (XY vs XX chromosomes), but men and women are equally able to lead as they are both rulers. There was no hierarchy or authority structures created...

@BogdanOancea77 @BarakWatson @justasbefuddled @MikeWingerii When we are debating these issues, you cannot just quote the Bible, you have to explain it. What does head mean in this context? Is Paul referring to authority and hierarchy to explain the...

@marauder34 @_nomadic_soul @AMS_Perkins Well…authorities on the other side were silenced. They said something and were fired, defrocked and kicked off social media. Which begs the question: when someone is willing to lose their job for speaking up ...

@scottspeig @MikeWingerii I’m not saying there is no one with authority, just th

In trying to answer a question about 1 Tim 2:11-15, I've made an attempt to comp

RT @ryanschatz: @NateSchlomann For much of history, male authority over their wi

"A woman" from 1 Tim 2:11-12 is an anarthrous noun (lacks the definite article,

"A woman" from 1 Tim 2:11-12 is an anarthrous noun (lacks the definite article,

@justasbefuddled @MikeWingerii That is precisely what the egalitarian view is.

@MikeWingerii Central to the 'in house' debate on this issue has to do with whet

@MikeWingerii As an egalitarian, I agree with points #1-4. I take issue with #5 because it says there is an inherent hierarchy and authority structure between the husband and wife and between males and females in the church. That said, if you do a ...

@NateSchlomann For much of history, male authority over their wives was commonpl

@rightresponsem For much of history, male authority over their wives was commonp

@MikeWingerii @kamkorderx @jones_shaun Belleville’s excellent research on Authen

@MikeWingerii Although Belleville’s analysis of authentein and the lexical probl

@SWoodl18571 @MikeWingerii If you want a quick explanation of how I interpret Ge

@MikeWingerii But part of being a man does not mean being the authority over you

@LauraRicha42528 @_nomadic_soul @LifeWithoutLack @DrFrankTurek Huh? Jezebel? How does she seek authority over men? Ephesians 5:21 says “submit to one another in the fear of Christ.” That means men submitting to women and women submitting to men. ...

@LauraRicha42528 @_nomadic_soul @DrFrankTurek The only connection with God’s order was deception. At least that’s how Paul parses Gen 1-3 in 1 Tim 2:11-15. It’s not about authority. It’s about a man who had been given knowledge completely failing ...

@ianfranklin @JeyButBased @MikeWingerii Not “having authority” but a very unique

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