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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-20

@jmmooreo @brmorris “Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.” (Ephesi

@jmmooreo @brmorris “Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.” (Ephesians 5:21, NIV). This most certainly means men to women and women to men, leaders to congregants and congregants to lead

Ephesians 5:21 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-20

Is this an example of what it means to be the authority over your wife? (watch

Is this an example of what it means to be the authority over your wife? (watch 5 minutes from 18m44s) https://t.co/E1VDC2meNI

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-20

2/🧵Exposition of 1 Tim 2:11-15 (part 1) Context in 1 Timothy 1 "A Text Without

2/🧵Exposition of 1 Tim 2:11-15 (part 1) Context in 1 Timothy 1 "A Text Without A Context is Pretext for a Prooftext" First, we must review the context of our passage as context is what limits possib

1 Tim 2:11-15 commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-20

5/🧵 Exposition of 1 Tim 2:11-15 (part 4) 1 Timothy 2:13-14 ⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯ 5-1. In 1 Tim 2:13-14, Paul relates the problem back to Genesis where the first one created is connected to not being deceived.  Adam is not connected to authority but to that of no...

5/🧵 Exposition of 1 Tim 2:11-15 (part 4) 1 Timothy 2:13-14 ⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯ 5-1. In 1 Tim 2:13-14, Paul relates the problem back to Genesis where the first one created is connected to not being deceived.  Ad

1 Tim 2:11-15 1 Tim 2:13-14 1 Timothy 2:13-14 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-20

@ianfranklin @MikeWingerii Parents have authority over their children, but not a

@ianfranklin @MikeWingerii Parents have authority over their children, but not after they become adults. Why would a wife be viewed as an eternal child? Makes no sense.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-20

@ianfranklin @MikeWingerii The only scripture related to authority over either husband and wife is the following: “The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. The wife does not have authority over h...

@ianfranklin @MikeWingerii The only scripture related to authority over either husband and wife is the following: “The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to he

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-19

@_nomadic_soul Church is about people. It is very understandable how you feel. I recently got pushed out of a church and 3 that I looked into won't ever allow me into leadership because I am egalitarian. The church I'm now going to seems focused o...

@_nomadic_soul Church is about people. It is very understandable how you feel. I recently got pushed out of a church and 3 that I looked into won't ever allow me into leadership because I am egalita

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-19

@CherylSchatz Do you think that in all cases authority has to be explicitly given? We are not given the words God spoke to Eve but we can see from her testimony that God repeated the command to both of them because she says God said and uses plural ...

@CherylSchatz Do you think that in all cases authority has to be explicitly given? We are not given the words God spoke to Eve but we can see from her testimony that God repeated the command to both

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-18

@WillQuestions @MikeWingerii Yes, he does name her. But where does the Bible te

@WillQuestions @MikeWingerii Yes, he does name her. But where does the Bible tell us that means he has authority over her since it isn’t written that God gave him authority over her? Kind of importa

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-18

@Journeyman_Joe @MikeWingerii I should have been more clear. Mike said that Adam had authority over Eve before the fall. BTW, in Gen 3:16 God was speaking to Eve, not Adam. God was prophesying how their relationship would be affected. Where did G...

@Journeyman_Joe @MikeWingerii I should have been more clear. Mike said that Adam had authority over Eve before the fall. BTW, in Gen 3:16 God was speaking to Eve, not Adam. God was prophesying how

Gen 3:16 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-18

@MikeWingerii MikeW (Calvary Chapel)⎯where in the Bible do we find that God gives Adam authority over Eve? According to John the Baptist, "A person can receive only what is given them from heaven." (John 3:27) Where did God give Adam authority over...

@MikeWingerii MikeW (Calvary Chapel)⎯where in the Bible do we find that God gives Adam authority over Eve? According to John the Baptist, "A person can receive only what is given them from heaven." (

John 3:27 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-18

I’m working on a response to Mike Winger’s teaching that Adam’s naming something

I’m working on a response to Mike Winger’s teaching that Adam’s naming something or someone demonstrates he has authority over it/them. This would extend to others doing the naming like us. Do you a

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-14

@MikeWingerii @mporeilly While you may be right that comp's generally take verse 12 as meaning a woman cannot teach and shouldn't have authority over a man, how they apply it is all over the map. The problem becomes that the New Testament doesn't gi...

@MikeWingerii @mporeilly While you may be right that comp's generally take verse 12 as meaning a woman cannot teach and shouldn't have authority over a man, how they apply it is all over the map. The

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-12

@jenniferfox88 @William_E_Wolfe Yes, everyone says this is clear, but no one seems to be able to explain all the details of this passage. - Why is Paul using singular instead of plural if his instruction applies to all women? Or is it only a married...

@jenniferfox88 @William_E_Wolfe Yes, everyone says this is clear, but no one seems to be able to explain all the details of this passage. - Why is Paul using singular instead of plural if his instruct

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-07

@CvilleHoosier @MikeWingerii However, IF there was a particular woman and man and Paul wanted to refer to her and him without naming them, how else would he do it? Also, ‘a woman’ in 1Tim2:11,12 is an anaphoric reference to ’the woman’ in 1Tim2:14 s...

@CvilleHoosier @MikeWingerii However, IF there was a particular woman and man and Paul wanted to refer to her and him without naming them, how else would he do it? Also, ‘a woman’ in 1Tim2:11,12 is a

1Tim2:11 1Tim2:14 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-27

@biblepatriarchy @William_E_Wolfe Being strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus does not mean to rebuke strongly. In fact he was told NOT to rebuke older men harshly. 1 Timothy 5:1–2 (NIV): “Do not rebuke an older man harshly, but exhort him as...

@biblepatriarchy @William_E_Wolfe Being strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus does not mean to rebuke strongly. In fact he was told NOT to rebuke older men harshly. 1 Timothy 5:1–2 (NIV): “Do

1 Timothy 5:1 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-24

@GCRiffey @DennyBurk I see. So women can teach but men (and their older male ch

@GCRiffey @DennyBurk I see. So women can teach but men (and their older male children) cannot be in their presence when doing so? Women can counsel but God thinks men shouldn’t learn from women? Al

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-24

@_JustWriting @TomBuck @DaveSmith2019 Paul writes “I do not permit a woman to teach or have authority over a man…”. Some questions: - Why does Paul say “I do not” instead of “God doesn’t”? - When Paul clearly knows how to use the plural of women in v...

@_JustWriting @TomBuck @DaveSmith2019 Paul writes “I do not permit a woman to teach or have authority over a man…”. Some questions: - Why does Paul say “I do not” instead of “God doesn’t”? - When Paul

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-24

@DennyBurk Ok, so if you agree women cannot be elders, deacons or pastors, can w

@DennyBurk Ok, so if you agree women cannot be elders, deacons or pastors, can women preach? Can they guide and counsel people? Can they lead a group to serve? In other words can they functionally

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-23

@Buffalo2Storm @L_T_Pearson @JustinPetersMin Here’s some interesting commentary

@Buffalo2Storm @L_T_Pearson @JustinPetersMin Here’s some interesting commentary on this from Daniel Wallace in Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics suggesting there may be more than 2 authors of Hebrews. h

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-23

@L_T_Pearson @JustinPetersMin Probably the most interesting comments I’ve read a

@L_T_Pearson @JustinPetersMin Probably the most interesting comments I’ve read are from Daniel Wallace in his Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics to suggest there are at least two authors of Hebrews. http

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-22

@L_T_Pearson @JustinPetersMin 6. You forgot to indicate that the author of Hebre

@L_T_Pearson @JustinPetersMin 6. You forgot to indicate that the author of Hebrews was part of an "us". Heb 13:18 says "pray for 'us'". P & A fit the bill for all the points including this last

Heb 13:18 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-22

@RupertP46422908 @JustinPetersMin “After 2000 years of study”⎯ you realize that

@RupertP46422908 @JustinPetersMin “After 2000 years of study”⎯ you realize that the Jewish leaders had many years of study and they completely missed the Messiah? Paul didn’t have a wife or children.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-22

@RupertP46422908 @JustinPetersMin There are no male pronouns in 1 Tim 3. V11 sa

@RupertP46422908 @JustinPetersMin There are no male pronouns in 1 Tim 3. V11 says “Women likewise…”. Isn’t it possible that the male only leadership model you were taught wasn’t Biblical?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-22

@JustinPetersMin Jesus chose 12 Jewish male apostles and we don’t see Jewishness

@JustinPetersMin Jesus chose 12 Jewish male apostles and we don’t see Jewishness as a requirement for pastors. The apostles were chosen before the start of the church when the dividing wall was still

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-22

@BibleBashed I’m an egalitarian and don’t reject the Biblical anthropology in Ge

@BibleBashed I’m an egalitarian and don’t reject the Biblical anthropology in Gen 1-2. Unless you are referring to roles only for men or gender hierarchy or authority of the man over the woman, but t

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-21

@jasonkeithallen I think Rick is referencing 1 Tim 2:11-12 here. You don’t think this means that women cannot teach or exercise authority over men? So the only thing that the SBC is standing for is that women cannot hold the position of pastor/elde...

@jasonkeithallen I think Rick is referencing 1 Tim 2:11-12 here. You don’t think this means that women cannot teach or exercise authority over men? So the only thing that the SBC is standing for is

1 Tim 2:11-12 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-21

@sarahfaith316 It is commendable you want to serve God whatever He commands. It

@sarahfaith316 It is commendable you want to serve God whatever He commands. It’s important to make sure you’ve got the commands right. God nowhere says that a leader or elder must be male or must n

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-18

@William_E_Wolfe Does that include the radical gender ideology that places only

@William_E_Wolfe Does that include the radical gender ideology that places only men in church leadership?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-17

@chimpchompchamp @MikeWingerii @kitchenSvenk30 Complementarian leaders are doing what they believe is right, so I don't think they should be forced to allow women if they think it's not Biblical, but they shouldn't treat others as though they are in ...

@chimpchompchamp @MikeWingerii @kitchenSvenk30 Complementarian leaders are doing what they believe is right, so I don't think they should be forced to allow women if they think it's not Biblical, but

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-17

@dalepartridge What's a "male station"? If you think you have a "higher positio

@dalepartridge What's a "male station"? If you think you have a "higher position of authority" then be like Jesus and do not consider this position something to be grasped onto, but lower yourself to

Phil 2:5-8 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-17

@MikeWingerii More questions… if a man is an overseer and a woman is teaching other women scripture, how is he to oversee her teaching without listening to it? To this a pastor I know concludes she is not allowed to teach authoritatively as he does,...

@MikeWingerii More questions… if a man is an overseer and a woman is teaching other women scripture, how is he to oversee her teaching without listening to it? To this a pastor I know concludes she i

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-17

@William_E_Wolfe How is trying to follow the Bible as best as one can in a way t

@William_E_Wolfe How is trying to follow the Bible as best as one can in a way that doesn’t contradict the grammar, context and other scripture a sin? Where is women preaching/speaking/leading/pastor

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-16

@m_a_nilles @southernpresby @5pointsMckinley @AnnaGraceWood Adam and Eve were of

@m_a_nilles @southernpresby @5pointsMckinley @AnnaGraceWood Adam and Eve were of the same flesh. How does that communicate hierarchy? Animals were made before Adam but don't rule over the man, so be

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-16

@PaineInTheNeck @foxes_on_fire @AmReformer The qualifications in Titus 1 are very similar to 1 Tim 3. Faithfulness to one's spouse (if they have one) is a character quality. Paul doesn't make ethnicity, socioeconomic status or gender a qualificatio...

@PaineInTheNeck @foxes_on_fire @AmReformer The qualifications in Titus 1 are very similar to 1 Tim 3. Faithfulness to one's spouse (if they have one) is a character quality. Paul doesn't make ethnic

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-16

@m_a_nilles @southernpresby @5pointsMckinley @AnnaGraceWood Someone had to come from the other one. Adam was the source of Eve, not her authority. Nowhere is he told to rule over her, except a prophesy after the fall which you seem to agree is the ...

@m_a_nilles @southernpresby @5pointsMckinley @AnnaGraceWood Someone had to come from the other one. Adam was the source of Eve, not her authority. Nowhere is he told to rule over her, except a proph

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-15

@Ashwin_Vengayil @MikeWingerii We can certainly agree with Warren’s points on th

@Ashwin_Vengayil @MikeWingerii We can certainly agree with Warren’s points on these passages, but he has to exegete the hard passages for women in leadership, namely 1 Tim 2:11-15, 1 Cor 14:34-35, 1 T

1 Cor 14:34-35 1 Tim 2:11-15 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-15

@WWUTTcom Surely Elevation and other churches have problems, but the fact that you would use the issue of women pastors as a means to get them out is abhorrent. If they have abhorrent doctrine then why not deal with that? You sound like a boy upset...

@WWUTTcom Surely Elevation and other churches have problems, but the fact that you would use the issue of women pastors as a means to get them out is abhorrent. If they have abhorrent doctrine then w

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-15

@ball_dummy @zechariah1680 @thebereanmillen The question was why would you have

@ball_dummy @zechariah1680 @thebereanmillen The question was why would you have a husband wife pastor team. P and A were leaders of some kind⎯there's a lot of things we don't get told explicitly abou

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-15

@DanielFarey @MattSwiftyPerry 3/ And because he had this experience, God expected him to help Eve understand the deception and protect her. The 'she' in v15 is an anaphoric reference back to 'a woman' because Eve cannot be saved future tense. The '...

@DanielFarey @MattSwiftyPerry 3/ And because he had this experience, God expected him to help Eve understand the deception and protect her. The 'she' in v15 is an anaphoric reference back to 'a woman

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-15

@lisanicolegaron @OliveGarden5505 @RickWarren The reason why many focus on 1 Cor 14:34-35, 1 Cor 11:1-16, 1 Tim 2:11-15, 1 Tim 3 and Titus 1, Gen 2-3, etc is because they seem to speak to the issue of women in leadership. I believe however, that if ...

@lisanicolegaron @OliveGarden5505 @RickWarren The reason why many focus on 1 Cor 14:34-35, 1 Cor 11:1-16, 1 Tim 2:11-15, 1 Tim 3 and Titus 1, Gen 2-3, etc is because they seem to speak to the issue of

1 Cor 11:1-16 1 Cor 14:34-35 1 Tim 2:11-15 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-14

@TomBuck But if you are going to make this about scripture, then at least preven

@TomBuck But if you are going to make this about scripture, then at least prevent 'a woman' who's teaching false doctrine and not women in general. Isn't it about the Word? Or is the authority in th

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-14

@revjeffvox @thatbrian Jeff, you are the pastor that worked with me to help prev

@revjeffvox @thatbrian Jeff, you are the pastor that worked with me to help prevent division. Why would you frame this in a way that favours a schism? Is it liberal to believe that the authority is

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-13

@ymmotrojam @brmorris @CherylSchatz The questions to be answered are: 1/ what does the creation order have to do with deception, and 2/ are there any authority of the man over the woman conveyed by those present (God, Adam, Eve, the Serpent). No one...

@ymmotrojam @brmorris @CherylSchatz The questions to be answered are: 1/ what does the creation order have to do with deception, and 2/ are there any authority of the man over the woman conveyed by th

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-13

@ymmotrojam @brmorris @CherylSchatz Indeed, these are both referring to the creation order. In the video where I deal with 1 Tim 2, I visit Genesis 1-3. If authority or roles are by creation order, then the animals would be over the man. The man w...

@ymmotrojam @brmorris @CherylSchatz Indeed, these are both referring to the creation order. In the video where I deal with 1 Tim 2, I visit Genesis 1-3. If authority or roles are by creation order,

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-13

@Mcnerd8 @William_E_Wolfe @sbcamendment @9Marks The church is Jesus’ DNA. We should not be dividing it up into fragments based on secondary matters saying “we can be brothers but you can’t be part of my church.” Note: I was welcome to be a member b...

@Mcnerd8 @William_E_Wolfe @sbcamendment @9Marks The church is Jesus’ DNA. We should not be dividing it up into fragments based on secondary matters saying “we can be brothers but you can’t be part of

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-13

@Mcnerd8 @William_E_Wolfe @sbcamendment @9Marks The answer given to me was “this is our distinctive; why do you even want to come here if you don’t believe comp is Biblical? Go find another church…there are plenty egal churches.” I was told I could...

@Mcnerd8 @William_E_Wolfe @sbcamendment @9Marks The answer given to me was “this is our distinctive; why do you even want to come here if you don’t believe comp is Biblical? Go find another church…th

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-13

@Mcnerd8 @William_E_Wolfe @sbcamendment @9Marks We are not to unnecessarily divide the body. It doesn’t mean that we cannot believe different things. For example, as an egal, I can submit to comp leadership but I know 3 churches where I asked the p...

@Mcnerd8 @William_E_Wolfe @sbcamendment @9Marks We are not to unnecessarily divide the body. It doesn’t mean that we cannot believe different things. For example, as an egal, I can submit to comp le

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-13

@brmorris This kind of philosophy leads to all sorts of rules that are not found

@brmorris This kind of philosophy leads to all sorts of rules that are not found in scripture. I recall Piper saying that the pulpit is sacred. So if a woman speaks, she just can’t do it in the pulp

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-13

@ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @brmorris Padgett says “(type I) comes from the realm

@ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @brmorris Padgett says “(type I) comes from the realm of political and military struggle. This type of submission is obedience to an external authority, which can be volunta

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