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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-03

🧵 It seems @Brian_Sauve has the secret to solve all problems in the church. 🤯 You see, if you have only male leaders, all the problems just go away. 🙄 Brian thinks that if women are part of the team, that requires a “parallel system” to be constru...

🧵 It seems @Brian_Sauve has the secret to solve all problems in the church. 🤯 You see, if you have only male leaders, all the problems just go away. 🙄 Brian thinks that if women are part of the tea

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-03

@Brian_Sauve So you changed ‘a woman’ to the plural and made authentein into nor

@Brian_Sauve So you changed ‘a woman’ to the plural and made authentein into normal authority that men exercise and neglected the context that the personal letter to Timothy was about dealing with fal

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-01

@Reformed_Zoomer @MolderAnna26649 @j_robert_kirk @Brian_Sauve Ok, why was Paul i

@Reformed_Zoomer @MolderAnna26649 @j_robert_kirk @Brian_Sauve Ok, why was Paul instructing Timothy to stop women from teaching men? Is this purpose stated anywhere else in the letter? How does this re

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-01

@j_robert_kirk @MolderAnna26649 @Reformed_Zoomer @Brian_Sauve It’s very plain? Y

@j_robert_kirk @MolderAnna26649 @Reformed_Zoomer @Brian_Sauve It’s very plain? Yea, Gen 1:28, 1Co 6:2-3 and Rev 3:21 are very plain. Women are to rule as well. What hierarchy? When you help carry th

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-01

@Reformed_Zoomer @j_robert_kirk @MolderAnna26649 @Brian_Sauve Also, protect her from what? From deception? You can only do that when you are not deceived yourself. Deception is not a gendered issue; many men can be deceived. Paul even says so: "But...

@Reformed_Zoomer @j_robert_kirk @MolderAnna26649 @Brian_Sauve Also, protect her from what? From deception? You can only do that when you are not deceived yourself. Deception is not a gendered issue; m

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-01

@Reformed_Zoomer @j_robert_kirk @MolderAnna26649 @Brian_Sauve You read scripture in snippets like there is zero context. Do you really think women are not to love sacrificially? REALLY?! Why do you suppose Paul gives what appears to be a one sided c...

@Reformed_Zoomer @j_robert_kirk @MolderAnna26649 @Brian_Sauve You read scripture in snippets like there is zero context. Do you really think women are not to love sacrificially? REALLY?! Why do you s

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-01

@j_robert_kirk @MolderAnna26649 @Reformed_Zoomer @Brian_Sauve She submits as the weaker vessel? You mean she is mentally weaker too? My wife asks me to carry heavy things and open jars…so as the weaker vessel I submit to helping her. We are weak and...

@j_robert_kirk @MolderAnna26649 @Reformed_Zoomer @Brian_Sauve She submits as the weaker vessel? You mean she is mentally weaker too? My wife asks me to carry heavy things and open jars…so as the weake

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-01

@j_robert_kirk @MolderAnna26649 @Reformed_Zoomer @Brian_Sauve You love…she doesn’t love? She can’t love as much as you? She doesn’t get to love? She submits…but you just control? Lovingly getting your way in every disagreement? And to boot you clai...

@j_robert_kirk @MolderAnna26649 @Reformed_Zoomer @Brian_Sauve You love…she doesn’t love? She can’t love as much as you? She doesn’t get to love? She submits…but you just control? Lovingly getting you

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-01

@j_robert_kirk @Reformed_Zoomer @MolderAnna26649 @Brian_Sauve 1Ti 2:12 is a statement made in the context of a personal letter to Timothy in which Paul’s main concern was stopping false teaching and how to handle blaspheming false teachers differentl...

@j_robert_kirk @Reformed_Zoomer @MolderAnna26649 @Brian_Sauve 1Ti 2:12 is a statement made in the context of a personal letter to Timothy in which Paul’s main concern was stopping false teaching and h

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-31

@riemersonck No monsters. But your patriarchal “we must rule over women” is a pr

@riemersonck No monsters. But your patriarchal “we must rule over women” is a problem.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-31

@MikhailSaintt @MolderAnna26649 @Brian_Sauve Women sticking to the home is part

@MikhailSaintt @MolderAnna26649 @Brian_Sauve Women sticking to the home is part of it. Women not leading, gifted teachers afraid to teach a male that gets a bit too old. Women who sense God’s calling

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-31

@Forms_Respecter @Brian_Sauve The patriarchy isn’t spurring it all on, but it’s

@Forms_Respecter @Brian_Sauve The patriarchy isn’t spurring it all on, but it’s definitely one motivator. My daughter likes hunting chopping down trees, not dolls. She might have been a rebel if I blo

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-31

@KittyMitchell7 @B_Christs_Amb @NamedWar @wolfeman2120 @ScottCross_8 @TheMuppetP

@KittyMitchell7 @B_Christs_Amb @NamedWar @wolfeman2120 @ScottCross_8 @TheMuppetPastor I found the following comments from DeSantis helpful. https://t.co/gzNw0KPYwg

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-31

@TonyMor52435077 @masonmennenga If we sat down for coffee, I could tell you stories about church behaviour, that of leaders and pastors. Again, my point is not that there are people failing—there are many, but that this is not the basis on which I b...

@TonyMor52435077 @masonmennenga If we sat down for coffee, I could tell you stories about church behaviour, that of leaders and pastors. Again, my point is not that there are people failing—there are

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-31

@ScottCross_8 @wolfeman2120 @NamedWar @TheMuppetPastor @KittyMitchell7 Why are you accusing me of making baseless accusations of corruption? I have ZERO interest in any guilty person being proclaimed innocent just for political gain. If you don’t be...

@ScottCross_8 @wolfeman2120 @NamedWar @TheMuppetPastor @KittyMitchell7 Why are you accusing me of making baseless accusations of corruption? I have ZERO interest in any guilty person being proclaimed

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-31

@ScottCross_8 @wolfeman2120 @NamedWar @TheMuppetPastor @KittyMitchell7 Did I tel

@ScottCross_8 @wolfeman2120 @NamedWar @TheMuppetPastor @KittyMitchell7 Did I tell you who I want elected? I’m not even an American… I asked for your evidence about his admission to se*ual assault in

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-31

@ScottCross_8 @wolfeman2120 @NamedWar @TheMuppetPastor @KittyMitchell7 You are putting words in my mouth—I said I’m questioning the judgment and fairness of the courts who tried him. I haven’t made a claim that they are corrupt or that every jury in ...

@ScottCross_8 @wolfeman2120 @NamedWar @TheMuppetPastor @KittyMitchell7 You are putting words in my mouth—I said I’m questioning the judgment and fairness of the courts who tried him. I haven’t made a

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-31

@ScottCross_8 @wolfeman2120 @NamedWar @TheMuppetPastor @KittyMitchell7 Yes, I’m

@ScottCross_8 @wolfeman2120 @NamedWar @TheMuppetPastor @KittyMitchell7 Yes, I’m calling into question whether there was a fair judgment. I have no interest in wanting an abuser to escape fair judgment

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-31

@ScottCross_8 @wolfeman2120 @NamedWar @TheMuppetPastor @KittyMitchell7 Why are t

@ScottCross_8 @wolfeman2120 @NamedWar @TheMuppetPastor @KittyMitchell7 Why are they liars if they are simply deciding they thing the evidence is against him? I’m questioning their judgment.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-31

@my_square_inch @ZacharyGarris Except I don’t extract it out of its context (per

@my_square_inch @ZacharyGarris Except I don’t extract it out of its context (personal instruction to Timothy about dealing with false teachers), change its grammar to plural and then make a rule based

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-31

@LogicSaysBurn @Cooper9DL Fundamentally it’s the context that determines meaning; the range of meaning or past usage merely informs how Paul might have been using the word. So regardless, you have to go to the text in context as the final arbiter as ...

@LogicSaysBurn @Cooper9DL Fundamentally it’s the context that determines meaning; the range of meaning or past usage merely informs how Paul might have been using the word. So regardless, you have to

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-31

@LogicSaysBurn @Cooper9DL That source is Leon Morris, a complementarian, in his

@LogicSaysBurn @Cooper9DL That source is Leon Morris, a complementarian, in his commentary on 1 Corinthians from the Tyndale New Testament Commentary series.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-31

@LogicSaysBurn @Cooper9DL I’m not sure that is relevant to Paul’s use of the ter

@LogicSaysBurn @Cooper9DL I’m not sure that is relevant to Paul’s use of the term in the majority of its use in the New Testament.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-31

@Cooper9DL You are taking 1Ti 2:12 out of context and are treating “head” in the sense of authority or master over which is not the sense in which Paul was using the word kephale. Your comment about 1Ti 3:1-13 being directed at only men is likely due...

@Cooper9DL You are taking 1Ti 2:12 out of context and are treating “head” in the sense of authority or master over which is not the sense in which Paul was using the word kephale. Your comment about 1

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-31

@westminbaptist Except “head” is not meant as master over but as source or origi

@westminbaptist Except “head” is not meant as master over but as source or origin or initiator. The following is from a complementarian commentator. https://t.co/O5NoLuSQp2

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-31

@coramdeo1 @kdclaunch You get my point? How? I am the one who is taking Paul’s purpose as written, and you are the one who is taking what is not explicit and making something more which is not stated and then taking the poor interpretation of many i...

@coramdeo1 @kdclaunch You get my point? How? I am the one who is taking Paul’s purpose as written, and you are the one who is taking what is not explicit and making something more which is not stated

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-31

@westminbaptist And it’s taking scripture out of context and twisting it to soun

@westminbaptist And it’s taking scripture out of context and twisting it to sound like women are slaves and their husbands are their masters and are like God. Kind of a pretty bad twist.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-30

@nation_gale @KylePierce96 I’m just taking the details in the text, context, gra

@nation_gale @KylePierce96 I’m just taking the details in the text, context, grammar and references and drawing reasonable conclusions. Scripture doesn’t forbid godly women from teaching truth to any

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-30

@TarienCole @VCITW I don’t ignore this, just interpreting it in context. Paul do

@TarienCole @VCITW I don’t ignore this, just interpreting it in context. Paul doesn’t say women (plural) but “a woman.” And he uses a very unusual word authentein (no man is said to authentein anyone

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-30

@VCITW All the church history I need is in the New Testament.

@VCITW All the church history I need is in the New Testament.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-30

@coramdeo1 @kdclaunch No one (including me) is arguing that the letters written to specific individuals were not intended to be read by the rest of us and treated as scripture. What I’m saying is that we must take Paul’s meaning in the context that ...

@coramdeo1 @kdclaunch No one (including me) is arguing that the letters written to specific individuals were not intended to be read by the rest of us and treated as scripture. What I’m saying is tha

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-30

@VCITW That’s almost what Luther claimed when he confronted the Roman Catholic C

@VCITW That’s almost what Luther claimed when he confronted the Roman Catholic Church. At any rate, I’m claiming to align with the church IN the New Testament. The ones after that are honestly irrele

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-30

@MariaDyck18 @GlennDavies @kdclaunch It really is a spectrum. My last church all

@MariaDyck18 @GlennDavies @kdclaunch It really is a spectrum. My last church allowed women to do everything except be lead pastor. Most churches, women lead children’s ministries and the women’s minis

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-30

@Mayo_Mingzi @kdclaunch Deborah had highest authority over everyone in Israel as God’s mouthpiece both as prophet and judge. She was just like Samuel. So your statement that “women must not have spiritual authority over men” is just false since God ...

@Mayo_Mingzi @kdclaunch Deborah had highest authority over everyone in Israel as God’s mouthpiece both as prophet and judge. She was just like Samuel. So your statement that “women must not have spir

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-30

@StevenMKestner @kdclaunch No, absolutely not. I’m pointing out this detail as i

@StevenMKestner @kdclaunch No, absolutely not. I’m pointing out this detail as it informs us of the context of Paul’s words. We can learn from Paul’s instruction to Timothy, but we absolutely should n

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-30

@coramdeo1 Ok, let’s try then. How does stopping all women from preaching or te

@coramdeo1 Ok, let’s try then. How does stopping all women from preaching or teaching men have anything to do with stopping false teaching? Why would Paul write such general instructions for women i

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-30

@Cooper9DL Yes, quite serious. A godly woman teaching truth to people (including

@Cooper9DL Yes, quite serious. A godly woman teaching truth to people (including men) is never listed in any list of sins. Prove me wrong.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-30

Here he intentionally misconstrues Satan’s temptation as violating gender hierar

Here he intentionally misconstrues Satan’s temptation as violating gender hierarchy rather than Satan taking advantage of Eve’s lack of experience of God. In conclusion, Kyle has not presented any ev

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-30

Because Kyle gets the context and purpose of the letter wrong and misunderstands

Because Kyle gets the context and purpose of the letter wrong and misunderstands how the time sequence of creation relates to deception, his conclusions do not follow from the text but promote patriar

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-30

1Ti 2:11-15 addresses a specific situation of a deceived wife teaching false doctrine and her undeceived husband (likely an elder) being silent and doing nothing. What about the qualification for overseers? 1Ti 3:1-13 does not explicitly forbid wom...

1Ti 2:11-15 addresses a specific situation of a deceived wife teaching false doctrine and her undeceived husband (likely an elder) being silent and doing nothing. What about the qualification for ove

1Ti 2:11-15 1Ti 3:1-13 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-30

🧵 Kyle @kdclaunch attempts to show that the Bible forbids women from functioning

🧵 Kyle @kdclaunch attempts to show that the Bible forbids women from functioning pastorally. Unfortunately, he misconstrues the purpose of 1Ti 2:11-15, Paul’s intent for this personal letter to Timo

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-30

@shogglastresort Except if she doesn’t submit to doctrines of men but only to th

@shogglastresort Except if she doesn’t submit to doctrines of men but only to the Word of God.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-30

@EkIesou @smashbaals It is correct to say that ‘a woman’ can either refer to a specific woman/wife or a generic woman/wife. The way we determine which it is is by the context. Paul’s reference to Adam and Eve as a prototypical couple and the “She…the...

@EkIesou @smashbaals It is correct to say that ‘a woman’ can either refer to a specific woman/wife or a generic woman/wife. The way we determine which it is is by the context. Paul’s reference to Adam

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-30

@smashbaals If you are this careless in exegeting scripture, I’m worried about you. 1. All women are not barred from preaching. 1Ti 2:12 doesn’t say anything about preaching, refers to “a woman” (singular) and not all women, in context has to do wit...

@smashbaals If you are this careless in exegeting scripture, I’m worried about you. 1. All women are not barred from preaching. 1Ti 2:12 doesn’t say anything about preaching, refers to “a woman” (sin

1Ti 2:12 commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-29

@smashbaals I don’t think you read my question very carefully. That verse is bei

@smashbaals I don’t think you read my question very carefully. That verse is being quoted out of context, says nothing about godly women preaching or teaching truth to anyone to be a sin, nor does it

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-29

@WizardTraveling In addition Paul is adding in Kings in that he is saying to pray for ALL men EVEN kings and EVEN the false teachers. This is an extension of the whole (all men) with specific people picked out for a reason, but it doesn’t have anythi...

@WizardTraveling In addition Paul is adding in Kings in that he is saying to pray for ALL men EVEN kings and EVEN the false teachers. This is an extension of the whole (all men) with specific people p

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-29

@WizardTraveling Kings are not classes of men. What Paul is saying here is that Kings are not picked out because they are a class of men that God has picked to be saved, but that Kings are important SO THAT we may lead a tranquil and quiet life. The ...

@WizardTraveling Kings are not classes of men. What Paul is saying here is that Kings are not picked out because they are a class of men that God has picked to be saved, but that Kings are important S

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-29

@avyargo @_nomadic_soul How am I twisting it by making sense of every detail in the grammar and the context? You have accepted an interpretation that doesn’t even make sense of the history where we have women like Deborah instructing and teaching me...

@avyargo @_nomadic_soul How am I twisting it by making sense of every detail in the grammar and the context? You have accepted an interpretation that doesn’t even make sense of the history where we h

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-29

@avyargo @_nomadic_soul But you are taking this verse out of context and forgett

@avyargo @_nomadic_soul But you are taking this verse out of context and forgetting that Paul is writing a personal letter to Timothy to address issues of false teaching, not to instruct him to stop t

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-29

@James_AndrewRob @Rattle_Resists @michael_ronning Context doesn’t matter to you?

@James_AndrewRob @Rattle_Resists @michael_ronning Context doesn’t matter to you? It’s also pretty clear to me that this text isn’t forbidding godly women from teaching truth to anyone.

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