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RT @ryanschatz: @IemSparticus @harmonizedgrace Many highlight the fact that wive

RT @ryanschatz: @IemSparticus @harmonizedgrace Many highlight the fact that wives are to submit and respect, and that husbands are to love.…

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-12-28

@IemSparticus @harmonizedgrace If we consider master/slave dynamics, slaves obey their masters as long as they are being watched and often with minimal effort. If wives see themselves as house slaves, they may not be serving their husbands out of gen...

@IemSparticus @harmonizedgrace If we consider master/slave dynamics, slaves obey their masters as long as they are being watched and often with minimal effort. If wives see themselves as house slaves,

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@IemSparticus @harmonizedgrace Your framework relies on pretext, not exegesis. P

@IemSparticus @harmonizedgrace Your framework relies on pretext, not exegesis. Paul’s call to mutual submission challenges worldly hierarchies, not endorses them! +

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-12-28

@IemSparticus @harmonizedgrace Many highlight the fact that wives are to submit and respect, and that husbands are to love. But in no way can a reasonable person assert that husbands are not also to respect their wives or that wives are not also to l...

@IemSparticus @harmonizedgrace Many highlight the fact that wives are to submit and respect, and that husbands are to love. But in no way can a reasonable person assert that husbands are not also to r

RT @ryanschatz: @IemSparticus @harmonizedgrace Many highlight the fact that wive

@IemSparticus @harmonizedgrace If we consider master/slave dynamics, slaves obey their masters as long as they are being watched and often with minimal effort. If wives see themselves as house slaves, they may not be serving their husbands out of gen...

@IemSparticus @harmonizedgrace Your framework relies on pretext, not exegesis. P

@IemSparticus @harmonizedgrace Many highlight the fact that wives are to submit and respect, and that husbands are to love. But in no way can a reasonable person assert that husbands are not also to respect their wives or that wives are not also to l...

@IemSparticus @harmonizedgrace Eph 5:21 does not limit submission to specific “lesser-greater” relationships; this is your imposed framework. The participle “ὑποτασσόμενοι” is reciprocal. Paul applies mutual submission to marital dynamics, elevatin...

@IemSparticus @harmonizedgrace Where is unilateral authority here? You argue as

@IemSparticus @harmonizedgrace Loving "as Christ loved the church" flips typical patriarchal authority on its head⎯Christ led by serving and dying for the church (Mk 10:42-45). You also point to the "totality of Scripture," yet mutual submission cle...

@IemSparticus @harmonizedgrace Your claim that submission here flows from "lesser to greater" authority (wives to husbands, children to parents, slaves to masters) is inconsistent with Paul's pattern. The instruction to husbands to love their wives (...

@IemSparticus @harmonizedgrace The bridge doesn't contain hierarchy or authority

@IemSparticus @harmonizedgrace Yes, Eph 5:21 does form a bridge concluding the list of 5 participles outlining what v18 means by being filled with the Spirit and introducing what this means in the husband/wife relationship which pictures Christ and t...

@Christi34606551 Interesting. She blocked me, so I will never know, but I’m curi

@TruthCop1717 @harmonizedgrace Stop skipping verse 21! If submission is *recipro

@tattered_bible Interesting perspective. So if this is the problem that women ar

@tattered_bible Many women avoid submission, seeing it as negative, and likely because patriarchal men see it as one sided. But understanding marriage as mutual submission all of the sudden doesn't seem so dangerous or wrong. I think most of these w...

@BdtKim There are no gender role differences related to submission or authority.

@subq @harmonizedgrace Absolutely. And the husband’s submission is even greater

@subq @harmonizedgrace Is laying down your life not submitting on a daily basis?

@subq @harmonizedgrace God’s Word teaches mutual submission. I’m all about follo

And the husband gets off Scott free for not also submitting to his wife? Nothin

@pitchford316 @ScottRoberts That is certainly one group of people. Others appear to be submitted to him, serving as missionaries and living like the most committed Christians but then something changes and they leave the faith. The text suggests tha...

@Matthew56193629 @sher_qw @BretArrigo @mtnhousewife Neither males nor females as

@PatrickHen1776 @mtnhousewife @Jleerockwell I'm not encouraging them to disobey

@mtnhousewife @shastorra I don’t have an issue with someone saying that they cho

@walkingmushr00m @mtnhousewife 1️⃣, I’m egalitarian, not feminist. I stand for equal opportunity based on merit and in a Christian context, mutual submission (all set aside their rights to serve and love on another). 2️⃣, you know nothing of my wife...

@Matthew56193629 @mtnhousewife While Paul can quote Gk philosophers, in no instance does he use them as the basis for his teaching nor does he double down on the culture. “The Pharisees say the woman’s place is in the home, but I tell you ‘and also s...

@mtnhousewife @Matthew56193629 Scripture has to be rightly interpreted. Submitti

@MaineMinistry Yes, we are called to submit to our elders, but they are also to

@bekahlee91 @godlywomanhood What they miss is that husbands are also to submit t

@LRopa21333 @kenalexander77 @RealDavidReece My take of what the Bible says is that there is a willing mutual submission, not that there is no submission. In the first century, wives’ submission was out of duty, not love like they did for Christ. The ...

@PatrickHen1776 @AJMxya @harmonizedgrace Yes, in everything…as they do to Christ. Evidently there was something going on at that time between husbands and wives that needed addressing and the best I surmise is women were treated as house slaves and t...

@PatrickHen1776 @AJMxya @harmonizedgrace ✅ husband is head of his wife ✅ wife is to submit to him (like she does to Christ and not like those in the culture) ❌ head doesn’t mean leader or the one in authority. ❌ husbands are also to submit to their w...

@PatrickHen1776 @AJMxya @harmonizedgrace 3000 years? I think not because the the apostles didn’t restrict women and think that only wives submit. Further, many godly men and women have been wrong in the past…all the more if they are following what t...

@Tomboy_Dragon23 @harmonizedgrace That’s completely fine. But to suggest that th

@PatrickHen1776 @harmonizedgrace I don’t have any problem with the texts. I woul

@Tailfeathers_WA @Antifaucist722 @dalepartridge Did Barak not have the power to make up his own mind what he would do? Did he not say that he would not go (by his own choice) unless she goes with him? But you just don't like that he submits to her, ...

@Tailfeathers_WA @Antifaucist722 @dalepartridge Scripture refutes you. The words

@Tailfeathers_WA @Antifaucist722 @dalepartridge Why doesn't the text rebuke Bara

@DirtBoyFarms @ruthmperry @iheartJ37 @harmonizedgrace If Biblical submission is service and service is submission, then how is it that all are not mutually submissive including husbands to wives in addition to wives to husbands? Do you believe the hu...

@ExtraSaltedNuts @rightresponsem The wife is to submit out of love and respect f

@ijac20 @RealDavidReece There's no male pronoun in 1Ti 3:4. It should read: "one

@JasonAlexa12387 @rightresponsem You are right... let me rephrase: The true view

@RealDavidReece "Wives, be subject to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord" (Col 3:18). The phrase “as is fitting in the Lord” reframes submission not as blind obedience but as a voluntary, Christlike humility grounded in love and respect. It re...

@RealDavidReece Ah @RealDavidReece, one can quote passages without their context, but can you explain them in context? Ok, let's start with Eph 5:22-23👇 1/ Paul deliberately used hypotassō (submission) for husbands &amp; wives, not hypakouō (obedie...

@rightresponsem The balanced view is no restrictions based on one’s gender and m

This article on whether the husband is to submit and whether Jesus submits ti Hi

With Christ, our service flows from love, not obligation. Paul’s challenge to wi

For wives treated as a subclass, like property or slaves, submission can feel li

Actually, Paul’s statement is that a wife’s submission to her husband should mirror her submission to the Lord. That’s his argument—but it needs unpacking. The key issue arises when “hypotasso” is misunderstood to mean “obey” rather than “willingly s...

@C_del_G @Rach4Patriarchy Right. So don’t submit like slaves (they were being treated like property or slaves), but submit out of love like you do towards Jesus. How is Christ the head of the church? Here’s how: He is the *Saviour* of the body. He i...

@itbemeAllie @douglaswils That’s not because of ‘mutual submission’—its because of false teaching concerning gender and the mishandling of the gender confused and a rejection of the scripture that says marriage is between 1 man and 1 woman. Mutual s...

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@RealDavidReece Ah @RealDavidReece, one can quote passages without their context, but can you explain them in context? Ok, let's start with Eph 5:22-23👇 1/ Paul deliberately used hypotassō (submission) for husbands & wives, not hypakouō (obedie...

@C_del_G @Rach4Patriarchy Right. So don’t submit like slaves (they were being treated like property or slaves), but submit out of love like you do towards Jesus. How is Christ the head of the church? Here’s how: He is the Saviour of the body. He i...