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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-30

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii I just find it curious you judged me before knowing sufficient details. That’s not a good look. My pastor never mentioned it again despite me calmly saying I would not have ch...

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii I just find it curious you judged me before knowing sufficient details. That’s not a good look. My pastor never mentioned it

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-30

@BradPatriarch Lexicons are not intended for interpretation. Interpretation requ

@BradPatriarch Lexicons are not intended for interpretation. Interpretation requires taking the context into consideration. Besides, are you saying that a lexicon does not say that in this verse it me

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-30

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii I only found out why people were refusing the elements after the meeting. No one told me beforehand that I couldn’t speak. No one stopped me. Only in a private meeting afterwar...

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii I only found out why people were refusing the elements after the meeting. No one told me beforehand that I couldn’t speak. No

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-30

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii Tom, so Jesus words only lasted for a very short time? Although He already had apostles he didn’t mention them or leadership of any kind, so his words were merely a suggestion ...

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii Tom, so Jesus words only lasted for a very short time? Although He already had apostles he didn’t mention them or leadership o

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-30

@BradPatriarch @pastherandie Bradley, the Greek simply says μιᾶς γυναικὸς ἄνδρα (one wife husband)⎯"woman" is in the genitive form and "man" in the accusative, thus together this translates as wife and husband. The emphasis in the Greek is on "one." ...

@BradPatriarch @pastherandie Bradley, the Greek simply says μιᾶς γυναικὸς ἄνδρα (one wife husband)⎯"woman" is in the genitive form and "man" in the accusative, thus together this translates as wife an

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-30

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeW

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii So no mention of apostles or leadership? Again, what’s missing? Are you saying following what Jesus said is not

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-30

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii Jesus is the one who set the process and there is no mention of elders, though elders being the most mature would make great witnesses. The witnesses confirm ever...

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii Jesus is the one who set the process and there is no mention of elders, though elders being the most mature woul

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-29

@SnapThatGinger @TerranWilliams4 Let me guess…are you complementarian?

@SnapThatGinger @TerranWilliams4 Let me guess…are you complementarian?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-29

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii But contrary to the example you gave, the community is not responsible for dealing with the kidnapper; the police are. Jesus does not mention the elders (unless ...

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii But contrary to the example you gave, the community is not responsible for dealing with the kidnapper; the polic

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-29

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @LostLittleStars @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii What should I have apologized for? For encouraging believers to take communion when I saw them refusing it? You are willing to condemn me withou...

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @LostLittleStars @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii What should I have apologized for? For encouraging believers to take communion when I saw them

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-29

@DustyMayT @CaidenHooks @MikeWingerii @copper_teal Whether he was lying or his i

@DustyMayT @CaidenHooks @MikeWingerii @copper_teal Whether he was lying or his intentions is not the primary concern. Do you know his inner motives? The false teaching is the concern and his clear la

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-29

@CaidenHooks @MikeWingerii @copper_teal As for your comment about his “9 member

@CaidenHooks @MikeWingerii @copper_teal As for your comment about his “9 member godhead” teaching which is obviously false, he retracted it and hasn’t taught it since. https://t.co/9fMLxNkC2s

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-29

@stablecross @MikeWingerii What do you mean it’s both/and? How can you have male primacy or priority and say that women are equally valued? Egalitarians still believe that there are differences between men and women, both physically and in the way e...

@stablecross @MikeWingerii What do you mean it’s both/and? How can you have male primacy or priority and say that women are equally valued? Egalitarians still believe that there are differences betwe

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-29

@FreeAme19691836 @subq @MikeWingerii Sounds good, Russell. The great commission is to make disciples and teach them to obey everything Jesus commanded his disciples. That doesn’t preclude dealing with divisive issues and helping people to know what s...

@FreeAme19691836 @subq @MikeWingerii Sounds good, Russell. The great commission is to make disciples and teach them to obey everything Jesus commanded his disciples. That doesn’t preclude dealing with

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

The following video is a very informative yet laid back conversational response

The following video is a very informative yet laid back conversational response to the first video in Mike’s Women In Ministry series: https://t.co/hUi6MH9WeT

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

🧵This thread captures the Egalitarian responses to @MikeWingerii’s Women in Mini

🧵This thread captures the Egalitarian responses to @MikeWingerii’s Women in Ministry video series. I’ll be adding to it as I come across other videos.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @pastherandie @kriesese @smashbaals So your view is Paul

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @pastherandie @kriesese @smashbaals So your view is Paul says some can prophesy and some cannot? That if a woman prophet stood up (which we both know existed in both old and new

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

@ymmotrojam @EH_Esq @JayMallow3 You certainly are trying hard, Tom. I don't fault you for that. But this interpretation doesn't work because Paul is not advocating for any head covering tradition. Perhaps you can explain how it is shameful for a man...

@ymmotrojam @EH_Esq @JayMallow3 You certainly are trying hard, Tom. I don't fault you for that. But this interpretation doesn't work because Paul is not advocating for any head covering tradition. Pe

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

@ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Ron, that’s not the option the text gives for the married women (given your view that these are the words of Paul). Why can the single women ask the elders but the married ones have to go home and ask their husbands? ...

@ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Ron, that’s not the option the text gives for the married women (given your view that these are the words of Paul). Why can the single women ask the elders but the mar

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

@EH_Esq @JayMallow3 Yes he did. This particular complementarian doesn’t believe

@EH_Esq @JayMallow3 Yes he did. This particular complementarian doesn’t believe that women should prophesy in the full meeting of the church. She has to do it outside of that meeting.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @pastherandie @kriesese @smashbaals The disjunctive "or" in Paul's letters is multifunctional and context-dependent. In 1Co 14:36, Paul uses "or" in rhetorical questions to challenge the Corinthian believers, which I assert is ...

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @pastherandie @kriesese @smashbaals The disjunctive "or" in Paul's letters is multifunctional and context-dependent. In 1Co 14:36, Paul uses "or" in rhetorical questions to chal

1Co 14:36 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @pastherandie @kriesese @smashbaals Paul is quoting a full quote from the Corinthians as he told the Corinthians that God is not a God of confusion. Then he shows the confusion. And then he rebukes the two verses and the pridef...

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @pastherandie @kriesese @smashbaals Paul is quoting a full quote from the Corinthians as he told the Corinthians that God is not a God of confusion. Then he shows the confusion.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

@ronhenzel @pastherandie @ymmotrojam @kriesese @smashbaals As believers, they are all qualified to learn discernment and should judge and since the Holy Spirit is with all believers, they should be treated as those who can have valid response to a te...

@ronhenzel @pastherandie @ymmotrojam @kriesese @smashbaals As believers, they are all qualified to learn discernment and should judge and since the Holy Spirit is with all believers, they should be tr

1Co 11:13 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

@ronhenzel @pastherandie @ymmotrojam @kriesese @smashbaals Reading gender roles into this text illegitimately forces your complementarian bias onto Paul's intent and misses how it completely contradicts everything Paul has been saying in chapter 14 l...

@ronhenzel @pastherandie @ymmotrojam @kriesese @smashbaals Reading gender roles into this text illegitimately forces your complementarian bias onto Paul's intent and misses how it completely contradic

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

@ronhenzel @pastherandie @ymmotrojam @kriesese @smashbaals How is Paul speaking to the women when he addresses them in the third person plural in vs34-35 and the "you" in vs36 is second person plural? Where were women ever stated as saying that they...

@ronhenzel @pastherandie @ymmotrojam @kriesese @smashbaals How is Paul speaking to the women when he addresses them in the third person plural in vs34-35 and the "you" in vs36 is second person plural?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

@ronhenzel @pastherandie @ymmotrojam @kriesese @smashbaals This also applies to prophecies made by even Paul himself. The Bereans checked what Paul said against prior revelation and were commended for it. And Paul said that even if he or an angel wer...

@ronhenzel @pastherandie @ymmotrojam @kriesese @smashbaals This also applies to prophecies made by even Paul himself. The Bereans checked what Paul said against prior revelation and were commended for

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

@JayMallow3 @JollyStine The idea that Paul limits prophecy from women in the con

@JayMallow3 @JollyStine The idea that Paul limits prophecy from women in the context of the gathering is purely rediculous! Prophecy is meant to be shared with all. Paul says its the greatest gift as

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

@ronhenzel @pastherandie @ymmotrojam @kriesese @smashbaals These are two very different situations and contexts. There is no discrimination whatsoever in 1Co 11:33-34 ⎯ in fact, it is because of discriminatory behaviour that Paul is correcting them. ...

@ronhenzel @pastherandie @ymmotrojam @kriesese @smashbaals These are two very different situations and contexts. There is no discrimination whatsoever in 1Co 11:33-34 ⎯ in fact, it is because of discr

1Co 11:33-34 1Co 14:34-35 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

@ronhenzel @pastherandie @ymmotrojam @kriesese @smashbaals “Have two or three prophets speak, and have the others pass judgment.” (1Co 14:29) There is nothing here stating that it is the "teacher's job" to pass judgment on prophecy. At minimum, the ...

@ronhenzel @pastherandie @ymmotrojam @kriesese @smashbaals “Have two or three prophets speak, and have the others pass judgment.” (1Co 14:29) There is nothing here stating that it is the "teacher's j

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

Here’s a complementarian stating that my explanation for 1Co 14:34-35 is the *perfect solution* for a Biblically faithful egalitarian. ❤️ (Except I’m not looking to suck out Paul’s authority; on the contrary, Paul uses his authority to stop those si...

Here’s a complementarian stating that my explanation for 1Co 14:34-35 is the *perfect solution* for a Biblically faithful egalitarian. ❤️ (Except I’m not looking to suck out Paul’s authority; on the

1Co 14:34-35 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

@deadtosin610 You just need to assert your motherly authority. "Therefore, I wa

@deadtosin610 You just need to assert your motherly authority. "Therefore, I want [women] to... manage their households..." (1Ti 5:14) https://t.co/fmm9RYILBx

1Ti 5:14 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

@ronhenzel @pastherandie @ymmotrojam @kriesese @smashbaals Ron, how are single women, widows, women with unbelieving husbands and women with husbands that know less than them to learn? All women are not allowed to ask questions. Therefore, all the ...

@ronhenzel @pastherandie @ymmotrojam @kriesese @smashbaals Ron, how are single women, widows, women with unbelieving husbands and women with husbands that know less than them to learn? All women are

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals I appreciate this admission, but I assure you⎯there is no "sucking" of apostolic authority at all! Paul is giving the full context of what the Corinthians wrote. How could he include less an...

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals I appreciate this admission, but I assure you⎯there is no "sucking" of apostolic authority at all! Paul is giving the full context of what t

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals You are saying that Paul doesn't want the women to contribute to the learning of the community: 14:1 - "Pursue love, yet earnestly desire spiritual gifts, but especially that you may prophesy...

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals You are saying that Paul doesn't want the women to contribute to the learning of the community: 14:1 - "Pursue love, yet earnestly desire spi

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

@foererikgraater @kriesese @smashbaals Nice try. A monogamous marriage consisting of one man and one woman is what Paul is referring to, and that explicitly excludes same sex marriage. But it doesn't exclude the unmarried or the single...or women. P...

@foererikgraater @kriesese @smashbaals Nice try. A monogamous marriage consisting of one man and one woman is what Paul is referring to, and that explicitly excludes same sex marriage. But it doesn't

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals So⎯again, you said "all" can learn includes women, right? But then v35 says, "if [the women] desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home." Which is it, Tom? Can all le...

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals So⎯again, you said "all" can learn includes women, right? But then v35 says, "if [the women] desire to learn anything, let them ask their ow

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals But you have to use the language of v35, and that says "if they (the women) desire to learn ANYTHING, let them ask their husbands at home" That is, in your view... ❌Paul doesn't tell them to...

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals But you have to use the language of v35, and that says "if they (the women) desire to learn ANYTHING, let them ask their husbands at home" T

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals But again, you want to use "all" to mean literally "all can learn" but want the first all in the same verse ("all can prophesy") to apply to only the men? The fact that they are to do it in ...

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals But again, you want to use "all" to mean literally "all can learn" but want the first all in the same verse ("all can prophesy") to apply to

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals So the whole congregation includes the women, right? How is it that he talks about them TO them? He tells the women to silence the women? If that's the case and he includes the women in v36...

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals So the whole congregation includes the women, right? How is it that he talks about them TO them? He tells the women to silence the women? I

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Tom...you are already in trouble...because you admitted it's ok for women to ask questions in small groups. The text says explicitly: "If they [women] desire to learn anything, let them ask ...

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Tom...you are already in trouble...because you admitted it's ok for women to ask questions in small groups. The text says explicitly: "If th

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Also, Paul said in v3

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Also, Paul said in v31 that "all can learn" but v35 suggests that women CANNOT LEARN in the community but must learn IN PRIVATE at home with

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Also, you said that women could ask questions in small groups when the whole church is not gathered... but v35 says "if they want to learn" they are supposed to ask their husbands at home, no...

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Also, you said that women could ask questions in small groups when the whole church is not gathered... but v35 says "if they want to learn" t

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Tom ⎯ who in your view is Paul supposedly talking to in v34-35 and who is being spoken to in v36? In v34-35, it is speaking of the women in 3rd person plural, but the "you" in v36 is 2nd pers...

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Tom ⎯ who in your view is Paul supposedly talking to in v34-35 and who is being spoken to in v36? In v34-35, it is speaking of the women in 3

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

@smashbaals I don’t reject Paul and believe that women are not forbidden from se

@smashbaals I don’t reject Paul and believe that women are not forbidden from serving as pastors. I guess your chart breaks at the first step. 🤷‍♂️

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-27

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals That translation misses the force of Paul’s words… "What? came the word of God out from you [men]? or came it unto you [men] only?" (1Co 14:36, KJV). The fact is that the word came out from...

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals That translation misses the force of Paul’s words… "What? came the word of God out from you [men]? or came it unto you [men] only?" (1Co 14:

1Co 14:36 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-27

@kriesese @pastherandie @ronhenzel @smashbaals Paul’s use of that idiom does not mean a married man…else Paul (and Timothy) would be excluded. By the same reasoning, neither is this excluding women. Paul did not say “must not be a woman,” but is sayi...

@kriesese @pastherandie @ronhenzel @smashbaals Paul’s use of that idiom does not mean a married man…else Paul (and Timothy) would be excluded. By the same reasoning, neither is this excluding women. P

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-27

@pastherandie @ymmotrojam @914Ann @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Well, no, it’

@pastherandie @ymmotrojam @914Ann @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Well, no, it’s just all these made up yard sticks that get defined by men who try their best to obey commands that the scripture isn’

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-27

@pastherandie @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals I don’t blame Ron and Tom for trying hard to find a way for the complementarian view to fit scripture. Hopefully one day they will see more clearly. Unfortunately, men don’t have a lot of mot...

@pastherandie @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals I don’t blame Ron and Tom for trying hard to find a way for the complementarian view to fit scripture. Hopefully one day they will see more c

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-27

@ymmotrojam @914Ann @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Hey, all the best with whatever restrictions you place on the women in your church. At my church, we don’t want to suppress the holy spirit’s work. We even open up the mic, show a slide outlining...

@ymmotrojam @914Ann @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Hey, all the best with whatever restrictions you place on the women in your church. At my church, we don’t want to suppress the holy spirit’s work

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-27

@ymmotrojam @914Ann @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Yes and so long as you understand my disagreement and pressing you is simply to challenge your views and not to force your church to do something they don’t think is right. You are applying aposto...

@ymmotrojam @914Ann @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Yes and so long as you understand my disagreement and pressing you is simply to challenge your views and not to force your church to do something t

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