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@OccamsBraiser @iheartJ37 @MikeWingerii - yes, women speaking is gender specific. But why only women? Why is their speech shameful, base, filthy? - the only ones who have to learn at home are wives. But Paul says: "For you can all prophesy one by...

@OccamsBraiser @iheartJ37 @MikeWingerii - yes, women speaking is gender specific. But why only women? Why is their speech shameful, base, filthy? - the only ones who have to learn at home are wives.

1Cor 14:31 debate

in 2:15 1 Tim 2:11-15 commentary

@HammadAcc2 @AmyMek @jihadwatchRS Some of these are quite difficult passages. Here's an explanation for 1 Tim 2:11-15 that makes sense of this passage, the grammar, the nature of the letter and its context (stopping false teaching), the back referen...

@HammadAcc2 @AmyMek @jihadwatchRS Some of these are quite difficult passages. Here's an explanation for 1 Tim 2:11-15 that makes sense of this passage, the grammar, the nature of the letter and its c

@Snuggernaut1 @chadlyrose @sovereignbrah Except Paul is refuting this quotation

@Snuggernaut1 @chadlyrose @sovereignbrah Except Paul is refuting this quotation from the Corinthian letter. https://t.co/0UJxaSEb7U

@coramdeo1 @mbird12 @ivpacademic I doubt this passage has anything to do with Artemis. Well, at least Paul doesn't explain what the false teaching is. But he also doesn't tell Timothy to stop women from teaching true doctrine. The grammar is also ...

@coramdeo1 @mbird12 @ivpacademic I doubt this passage has anything to do with Artemis. Well, at least Paul doesn't explain what the false teaching is. But he also doesn't tell Timothy to stop women

@Maxwellian2001 @GnosisRevelator @WWUTTcom Not quite. That passage is being mis

@Maxwellian2001 @GnosisRevelator @WWUTTcom Not quite. That passage is being misunderstood. The grammar is very specific and the context of the personal letter to Timothy and what Paul says in the fi

Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-25

@ronhenzel Except that the Bible doesn’t say it’s permanent. It is always conditioned on you remaining in him and continuing in the faith. 1 Cor 9:27 “No, I strike a blow to my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I my...

@ronhenzel Except that the Bible doesn’t say it’s permanent. It is always conditioned on you remaining in him and continuing in the faith. 1 Cor 9:27 “No, I strike a blow to my body and make it my s

1 Cor 9:27 general

Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-25

@William_E_Wolfe The answer to patriarchalism and feminism which are on the right and left is egalitarianism. Egalitarians understand general differences between men and women but that these do not prevent qualified women from leadership. In fact, ...

@William_E_Wolfe The answer to patriarchalism and feminism which are on the right and left is egalitarianism. Egalitarians understand general differences between men and women but that these do not p

Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-24

@BogdanOancea77 I am not performing mental gymnastics nor am I ignoring anything! I'm taking the text as fully inspired in its original context. That is in no way rebelling against the Bible and God! This is the sort of attitude that needs to stop...

@BogdanOancea77 I am not performing mental gymnastics nor am I ignoring anything! I'm taking the text as fully inspired in its original context. That is in no way rebelling against the Bible and God

@BogdanOancea77 I know you don't think I understand. But I'm giving evidence that Paul quotes several times from the letter from the Corinthians, there are no "quote marks" in the earliest Greek manuscripts, and verses 34-35 are contradicting what P...

@BogdanOancea77 I know you don't think I understand. But I'm giving evidence that Paul quotes several times from the letter from the Corinthians, there are no "quote marks" in the earliest Greek manu

Titus 1:5-9 1 Tim 3:1-13 general

@GlennDavies @danitreweek In a very brief response to your comment that "elders were qualified men," I believe you are importing male only requirements into these texts. ✏️There is nowhere in 1 Tim 3:1-13 and Titus 1:5-9 that says that an elder must ...

@GlennDavies @danitreweek In a very brief response to your comment that "elders were qualified men," I believe you are importing male only requirements into these texts. ✏️There is nowhere in 1 Tim 3:

@GlennDavies @danitreweek Because that's what apostles do. They plant churches and planting churches implies appointing elders. Regarding Paul only mentioning her in this one commendation is not unusual for any elder or deacon. Most are not mentio...

@GlennDavies @danitreweek Because that's what apostles do. They plant churches and planting churches implies appointing elders. Regarding Paul only mentioning her in this one commendation is not unu

1 Cor 14:34-35 1 Tim 2:11-15 debate

@bethallisonbarr Hi Beth. Just reading your book now but you might be intereste

@bethallisonbarr Hi Beth. Just reading your book now but you might be interested in the take I pinned on my profile for 1 Tim 2:11-15 and this one on 1 Cor 14:34-35. Hoping to learn from each other.

@GlennDavies @danitreweek Well, it is certainly a good question. The qualifications for deacon are the same as elder aside for "must be able to teach" and we know Phoebe is a deacon(ness). Do we know the names of the elders in Ephesus? No, they ar...

@GlennDavies @danitreweek Well, it is certainly a good question. The qualifications for deacon are the same as elder aside for "must be able to teach" and we know Phoebe is a deacon(ness). Do we kno

23/23🧵In summary, what makes the most sense of these verses in context in light

23/23🧵In summary, what makes the most sense of these verses in context in light of Paul responding to matters raised in the Corinthian letter to him is that he quotes from their letter and responds or

22/23🧵Question: How does stopping women edify the church? What does Paul have to say to those who disregard his instructions that ALL are to excel in spiritual gifts to EDIFY the church (v12) for the COMMON good (v7) and for edification (v26)? He t...

22/23🧵Question: How does stopping women edify the church? What does Paul have to say to those who disregard his instructions that ALL are to excel in spiritual gifts to EDIFY the church (v12) for the

21/23🧵1 Cor 14:36 starts with the Greek letter ἢ. The Exegetical Dictionary of the NT gives this as an example of a rhetorical question we are expected to answer 'no' to. The Concise Greek_English Dictionary agrees listing ἢ as a 'disjunctive conju...

21/23🧵1 Cor 14:36 starts with the Greek letter ἢ. The Exegetical Dictionary of the NT gives this as an example of a rhetorical question we are expected to answer 'no' to. The Concise Greek_English D

1 Cor 14:36 general

20/23🧵In summary: no women learning the scripture? No women giving forth the wo

20/23🧵In summary: no women learning the scripture? No women giving forth the word? NONSENSE! Adam Clarke and Sir William Ramsay both take this as Paul quoting from the Corinthians (see below): http

18/23🧵We must consider whether Paul is quoting from the letter from the Corinthi

18/23🧵We must consider whether Paul is quoting from the letter from the Corinthians and rebuking it. See the attached quote from the 1924 Montgomery translation of the New Testament which interpreted

15/23🧵Continuing on in 1 Corinthians, we see that Paul responds to other matters

15/23🧵Continuing on in 1 Corinthians, we see that Paul responds to other matters from their letter, and in each case, the quote has to be determined by the context! https://t.co/Lo5Jh17Rei

12/23🧵Just looking at the translations you can see that some use quotation marks

12/23🧵Just looking at the translations you can see that some use quotation marks, some don’t. Some use commas or colons. Imagine how easy it is to misunderstand this to mean that Paul was advocating

10/23🧵There is no denying the fact that the Jewish oral laws forbade women from

10/23🧵There is no denying the fact that the Jewish oral laws forbade women from speaking in the assembly. Paul never gave validity to these oral laws to form the basis of the church. https://t.co/Q2aI

5/23🧵The law (gr:'nomos') is referenced 9 times in 1 Cor, each time referring to the Mosaic law or God's law. Where in God's law is a law that silences women in the church or synagogue? It is not found except in v34, but it cannot refer back to its...

5/23🧵The law (gr:'nomos') is referenced 9 times in 1 Cor, each time referring to the Mosaic law or God's law. Where in God's law is a law that silences women in the church or synagogue? It is not fo

Acts 2:16 Joel 2:28-29 debate

3/23🧵However, few churches if any take such a literal view. For one, there are

3/23🧵However, few churches if any take such a literal view. For one, there are clear scriptures permitting women to speak in church like in Acts 2:16 quoting from Joel 2:28-29. https://t.co/kJ9IjMKae

2/23🧵Taken out of its context and strictly literally, we would have: 1. No women

2/23🧵Taken out of its context and strictly literally, we would have: 1. No women preaching 2. No women singing 3. No women teaching children or adults 4. No women doing anything that requires vocaliza

@harmonizedgrace Depends on what you mean by "fundamental" as the biology is fundamental in every cell (XY vs XX chromosomes), but men and women are equally able to lead as they are both rulers. There was no hierarchy or authority structures created...

@harmonizedgrace Depends on what you mean by "fundamental" as the biology is fundamental in every cell (XY vs XX chromosomes), but men and women are equally able to lead as they are both rulers. Ther

@BogdanOancea77 @BarakWatson @justasbefuddled @MikeWingerii When we are debating these issues, you cannot just quote the Bible, you have to explain it. What does head mean in this context? Is Paul referring to authority and hierarchy to explain the...

@BogdanOancea77 @BarakWatson @justasbefuddled @MikeWingerii When we are debating these issues, you cannot just quote the Bible, you have to explain it. What does head mean in this context? Is Paul r

@Richard56245924 @justasbefuddled @MikeWingerii Only Gentiles were made equal?

@Richard56245924 @justasbefuddled @MikeWingerii Only Gentiles were made equal? Why does Paul list them together with women? What about the churches Paul planted in scripture?

@Richard56245924 @justasbefuddled @MikeWingerii First, you cannot possibly know that no one questioned it. Second, Timothy would have understood that Paul wasn’t stopping women from teaching the truth (for instance). Third, we follow what the Bible...

@Richard56245924 @justasbefuddled @MikeWingerii First, you cannot possibly know that no one questioned it. Second, Timothy would have understood that Paul wasn’t stopping women from teaching the trut

@marauder34 @_nomadic_soul @AMS_Perkins Well…authorities on the other side were silenced. They said something and were fired, defrocked and kicked off social media. Which begs the question: when someone is willing to lose their job for speaking up ...

@marauder34 @_nomadic_soul @AMS_Perkins Well…authorities on the other side were silenced. They said something and were fired, defrocked and kicked off social media. Which begs the question: when som

In trying to answer a question about 1 Tim 2:11-15, I've made an attempt to comp

In trying to answer a question about 1 Tim 2:11-15, I've made an attempt to compress the explanation into a shorter post. You might find this helpful. https://t.co/owi1JZUELv

1 Tim 2:11-15 general

@calandgrant @MikeWingerii No, that's not quite what I think is going on here. There appears to be a specific couple in the Ephesian church where the woman is deceived and teaching false doctrine and the husband who knows better (possibly he's even ...

@calandgrant @MikeWingerii No, that's not quite what I think is going on here. There appears to be a specific couple in the Ephesian church where the woman is deceived and teaching false doctrine and

@BrotherBoaz @PastorMark Fair enough. It's definitely mostly a guy thing to do

@BrotherBoaz @PastorMark Fair enough. It's definitely mostly a guy thing to do what Mark said. Probably the female equivalent is social media 24/7 with the rest mostly the same. I guess I'm saying

Q: "What does being the head of the wife mean?" @MikeWingerii You sound like yo

Q: "What does being the head of the wife mean?" @MikeWingerii You sound like you are 95% egalitarian. It seems it's now down to making the final call when there is a disagreement. Is that it??? ht

Thanks for clarifying! I don't see Genesis 1-3 as fatal for an egalitarian view at all. There's certainly a lot of poor scholarship (though I see it on both sides), but if we focus only on the best arguments, Gen 1-3 is actually a critical foundati...

Thanks for clarifying! I don't see Genesis 1-3 as fatal for an egalitarian view at all. There's certainly a lot of poor scholarship (though I see it on both sides), but if we focus only on the best

Thanks for clarifying! I don't see Genesis 1-3 as fatal for an egalitarian view at all. There's certainly a lot of poor scholarship (though I see it on both sides), but if we focus only on the best arguments, Gen 1-3 is actually a critical foundati...

Thanks for clarifying! I don't see Genesis 1-3 as fatal for an egalitarian view at all. There's certainly a lot of poor scholarship (though I see it on both sides), but if we focus only on the best

@BarakWatson @justasbefuddled @MikeWingerii Thanks for the reply. Ephesians 5:21 says that we are to subject ourselves to one another; verse 22 doesn't contain the verb (it is implied). Therefore, what it cannot mean is that wives are hierarchicall...

@BarakWatson @justasbefuddled @MikeWingerii Thanks for the reply. Ephesians 5:21 says that we are to subject ourselves to one another; verse 22 doesn't contain the verb (it is implied). Therefore, w

Ephesians 5:21 debate

@SWoodl18571 @MikeWingerii Mike: "This is huge...this is 99% of the debate right

@SWoodl18571 @MikeWingerii Mike: "This is huge...this is 99% of the debate right here in Genesis 1-3 in this one sentence: 'The wife's subordination is presented only as a result of the fall, as a res

@MikeWingerii @kamkorderx @jones_shaun Belleville’s excellent research on Authen

@MikeWingerii @kamkorderx @jones_shaun Belleville’s excellent research on Authentein is critical to this discussion. https://t.co/q2RauE3Gfv

@MikeWingerii Although Belleville’s analysis of authentein and the lexical probl

@MikeWingerii Although Belleville’s analysis of authentein and the lexical problems with BDAG is sound, her interpretation of verse 12 still doesn’t make sense. For another view that I think works se

@Cityguy2011 @_nomadic_soul @DrFrankTurek Our equality is based on our humanity.

@Cityguy2011 @_nomadic_soul @DrFrankTurek Our equality is based on our humanity. Women are not a different species! In the Genesis account, the woman was made from Adam’s flesh and bone indicating t

@SWoodl18571 @MikeWingerii If you want a quick explanation of how I interpret Ge

@SWoodl18571 @MikeWingerii If you want a quick explanation of how I interpret Genesis 2 which Mike says implies Adam’s leadership over Eve as part of the original creation intent of God, see this post

@SWoodl18571 @MikeWingerii I have. I disagree with Mike on this one. In his second video, he says that the idea of whether or not Gen 3:16 applies to after the fall as a consequence of sin is 99% of the debate. I agree with Mike on that. How you ...

@SWoodl18571 @MikeWingerii I have. I disagree with Mike on this one. In his second video, he says that the idea of whether or not Gen 3:16 applies to after the fall as a consequence of sin is 99% of

Gen 3:16 debate

@ianfranklin @JeyButBased @MikeWingerii Not “having authority” but a very unique

@ianfranklin @JeyButBased @MikeWingerii Not “having authority” but a very unique word so the English “exercising authority” doesn’t do it justice. There’s a lot going on here so it’s worth examining.

1/🧵In light of some who believe that female pastors (and those who support them) are in high-handed rebellion against God, I'd like to provide an exposition of 1 Tim 2:11-15 which is egalitarian and Biblically faithful. We need to remember that thos...

1/🧵In light of some who believe that female pastors (and those who support them) are in high-handed rebellion against God, I'd like to provide an exposition of 1 Tim 2:11-15 which is egalitarian and B

1 Tim 2:11-15 general

1 Tim 2:11-15 1 Timothy 2:11-12 general

4/🧵 Exposition of 1 Tim 2:11-15 (part 3) 1 Timothy 2:11-12 ⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯ 4-1. Paul then switches to the singular form in verse 11 (singular feminine) when he gives the command that "a woman" must receive instruction in quietness and in full submission to...

4/🧵 Exposition of 1 Tim 2:11-15 (part 3) 1 Timothy 2:11-12 ⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯ 4-1. Paul then switches to the singular form in verse 11 (singular feminine) when he gives the command that "a woman" must receive

@ianfranklin @ANTHOWEEZY @MikeWingerii Sometimes the culture can get some things

@ianfranklin @ANTHOWEEZY @MikeWingerii Sometimes the culture can get some things correct. Though culture today is extremely messed up, the point of a wife and a husband should be equal is correct.

Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-19

@nightwindsmusic @SweetbbJiyasus @revjeffvox @QuiverQuant I'm not sure what you are talking about. Churches usually help the poor in various ways. We have a compassionate program in my area where over the winter, we provide shelter and dinner and b...

@nightwindsmusic @SweetbbJiyasus @revjeffvox @QuiverQuant I'm not sure what you are talking about. Churches usually help the poor in various ways. We have a compassionate program in my area where ov

Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-18

@MikeWingerii It certainly means we will disagree with "mainstream cultural norms," but it doesn't require that they cannot get some things right. Our reference has to be the Bible, not culture. This can be particularly difficult when the culture i...

@MikeWingerii It certainly means we will disagree with "mainstream cultural norms," but it doesn't require that they cannot get some things right. Our reference has to be the Bible, not culture. Thi

Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-18

@WillQuestions @MikeWingerii Yes, he does name her. But where does the Bible te

@WillQuestions @MikeWingerii Yes, he does name her. But where does the Bible tell us that means he has authority over her since it isn’t written that God gave him authority over her? Kind of importa

Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-18

@MikeWingerii Steve Ullmer makes a good point. I think we also need to remember

@MikeWingerii Steve Ullmer makes a good point. I think we also need to remember that many cults claim to get their theology from the Bible too. We not only need to get it from the Bible, but rightly