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@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii You think it’s a bad example? Why? Becau

@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii You think it’s a bad example? Why? Because it clearly demonstrates that a woman having authority over men is a sin? Barak was never criticized for submitting t

RT @ryanschatz: @zacharydparks @ReformedCaio @MikeWingerii I can show you videos

RT @ryanschatz: @zacharydparks @ReformedCaio @MikeWingerii I can show you videos showing that Mike was complementarian before he hardened h…

@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii Governmental authority? Where is that mentioned in the Bible? We have all what is necessary in scripture. Elders are to correct, rebuke, instruct and train up others. The church was not meant to form large gove...

@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii Governmental authority? Where is that mentioned in the Bible? We have all what is necessary in scripture. Elders are to correct, rebuke, instruct and train up o

@B_Christs_Amb I actually prefer Mike's version of comp as it is nearly functionally egal and gives women more freedom to teach and speak and do theology than other versions. I was part of a thriving Calvary Chapel church which is comp for years. Bu...

@B_Christs_Amb I actually prefer Mike's version of comp as it is nearly functionally egal and gives women more freedom to teach and speak and do theology than other versions. I was part of a thriving

@B_Christs_Amb He wants all female pastors to repent and step down. He is treati

@B_Christs_Amb He wants all female pastors to repent and step down. He is treating this as a sin issue. Rather, he should be consistent with his statement that it is secondary and just prefer a comple

@avyargo @MikeWingerii No. You are 100% certain that complementarians should "lo

@avyargo @MikeWingerii No. You are 100% certain that complementarians should "loudly" cause waves and leave their egalitarian churches drawing people out with them, causing strife and division...all o

@TarienCole @ReformedRant @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii I made no argument from cu

@TarienCole @ReformedRant @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii I made no argument from culture. Paul's single status is nothing to do with culture. It tells me surely what he does not mean by what he writes. Y

@Torncurtainorg @theologicaljoe @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii You are attempting to draw a prohibition from a "let's see if we can find a single woman preacher in the NT"⎯ you cannot take narrative or description and form prohibition from that. We don't ha...

@Torncurtainorg @theologicaljoe @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii You are attempting to draw a prohibition from a "let's see if we can find a single woman preacher in the NT"⎯ you cannot take narrative or descr

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii "one wife husband" is the literal interpretation of 1Ti 3:2. But it doesn't mean husband (clearly) and so it doesn't mean "must be male" or "must not be female." To think this and then turn it into a commandment...

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii "one wife husband" is the literal interpretation of 1Ti 3:2. But it doesn't mean husband (clearly) and so it doesn't mean "must be male" or "must not be female."

1Ti 3:2 debate

@Geoffrey_Stertz @MikeWingerii Mike says that the Bible is clear what we should do about women pastors. Really? What does the text say we should DO? There is no imperative in 1Ti 2:12. The context is about false teachers. You need to go back to chap...

@Geoffrey_Stertz @MikeWingerii Mike says that the Bible is clear what we should do about women pastors. Really? What does the text say we should DO? There is no imperative in 1Ti 2:12. The context is

1Ti 2:12 commentary

@reformedbapty @ReformedCaio @MikeWingerii Egalitarianism is nothing of the sort as gender confusion. You don't know what you are talking about. And you are right... in Mike's 11.5 hour video he covered his interpretation of 1Ti 2:11-15 in about 11 ...

@reformedbapty @ReformedCaio @MikeWingerii Egalitarianism is nothing of the sort as gender confusion. You don't know what you are talking about. And you are right... in Mike's 11.5 hour video he cove

1Ti 2:11-15 general

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Wow, you branched on this comment a lot...making me think you didn't answer my question. You might want to thread in the future so its more clear what your response is. I'm glad you admit that Paul is single an...

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Wow, you branched on this comment a lot...making me think you didn't answer my question. You might want to thread in the future so its more clear what your respo

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Timothy and Titus say essentially the same thing. Who wrote Ruth? Who wrote Esther? Who wrote Hebrews? Deborah was a judge and prophet. Junia was an ordinary (not foundational) apostle. No one is saying that ...

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Timothy and Titus say essentially the same thing. Who wrote Ruth? Who wrote Esther? Who wrote Hebrews? Deborah was a judge and prophet. Junia was an ordinary (

@4shaws1 @MikeWingerii Where does God command women to not pastor? I'm questioning your reading comprehension, not your primary beliefs. You can stay a complementarian⎯I'm fine with that, but if you think I'm sinning and want to follow Mike's advic...

@4shaws1 @MikeWingerii Where does God command women to not pastor? I'm questioning your reading comprehension, not your primary beliefs. You can stay a complementarian⎯I'm fine with that, but if you

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii I don't care about what the Western world thinks. I care about what Jesus thinks since the church belongs to him. Your view of church history is skewed. Even the Waldensiens which were pre-Luther had women elder...

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii I don't care about what the Western world thinks. I care about what Jesus thinks since the church belongs to him. Your view of church history is skewed. Even the

@zacharydparks @ReformedCaio @MikeWingerii I can show you videos showing that Mike was complementarian before he hardened his position. What he wasn't was dogmatic about it. He told people to draw their own conclusions and shared that his was complem...

@zacharydparks @ReformedCaio @MikeWingerii I can show you videos showing that Mike was complementarian before he hardened his position. What he wasn't was dogmatic about it. He told people to draw the

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Greek doesn't help? The NT wasn't written in English. About "complementarianism" being the dominant view until the middle of the 20th century...(chuckles)... The formalization of complementarian theology and ...

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Greek doesn't help? The NT wasn't written in English. About "complementarianism" being the dominant view until the middle of the 20th century...(chuckles)...

@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @914Ann @MikeWingerii A complementarian view that has males possessing complete authority over women⎯even if they are not supposed to abuse it⎯provides the fertile ground for abuse and denigrates the true equality of women. ...

@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @914Ann @MikeWingerii A complementarian view that has males possessing complete authority over women⎯even if they are not supposed to abuse it⎯provides the fertile ground for

Gen 1:28 debate

@Torncurtainorg @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii I'm ok with you being convinced he is right. Go to your male-only led church. I've gone to complementarian churches for many years myself. Just don't treat those who believe the scripture prohibits women f...

@Torncurtainorg @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii I'm ok with you being convinced he is right. Go to your male-only led church. I've gone to complementarian churches for many years myself. Just don't treat

@ReformedCaio @MikeWingerii Did I say that he had malicious intent? Did I say he

@ReformedCaio @MikeWingerii Did I say that he had malicious intent? Did I say he was a mysogynist? Did I say he wants to silence women? Why are you inserting all these words in my mouth? I can speak

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@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii Deborah was the voice of God in a theocracy. This is not a secular position as Mike presumes. We only need one example to prove that it is not a sin to be in a position of authority over men. If this is what ...

@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii Deborah was the voice of God in a theocracy. This is not a secular position as Mike presumes. We only need one example to prove that it is not a sin to be in a

@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii You are not just reporting scripture, Jo

@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii You are not just reporting scripture, Joshua. You are parroting complementarian teaching. Thanks for clarifying that women are amazing. Your comment that we do

@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii But he has the same answer if a woman is

@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii But he has the same answer if a woman is a pastor at all. He never replied saying his comments are only for senior pastors.

@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii We do not see one single pastor in the N

@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii We do not see one single pastor in the New Testament…just Jesus. Take another look.

@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii He never said women shouldn’t be senior

@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii He never said women shouldn’t be senior pastors. He said women shouldn’t be pastors or elders. He doesn’t like using pastor and thinks we should just use elder

@Crystalisives @MichaelBerg888 Jesus didn't pick people to be sure they would be respected. He picked a tax collector! lol. Jesus does things for symbolic reasons. There are 12 sons of Jacob and so there are 12 apostles = 24 elders in Revelation. Th...

@Crystalisives @MichaelBerg888 Jesus didn't pick people to be sure they would be respected. He picked a tax collector! lol. Jesus does things for symbolic reasons. There are 12 sons of Jacob and so th

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii None of the 12 were Gentiles. Is your pastor a Gentile? The early church had issues fully accepting Gentiles too…you think it was different with women? Jesus picked 12 males for a reason not given. It certainly...

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii None of the 12 were Gentiles. Is your pastor a Gentile? The early church had issues fully accepting Gentiles too…you think it was different with women? Jesus pi

@Brayne_Zee @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii Please show me again what clearly articu

@Brayne_Zee @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii Please show me again what clearly articulated “commands” barring women from serving as pastors you are referring to?

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@pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii Wow, that’s nuts. This is the kind of thi

@pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii Wow, that’s nuts. This is the kind of thing Paul was trying to avoid by commending Phoebe to the church at Rome. The fact that the second church doesn’t at all r

@RSCharlton @NarnianAttorney @MikeWingerii Neat magic trick. So you just eliminated all secondary issues by quipping “sola scriptura”? I believe sola scriptura too. That verse is in the context of stopping false teaching, not stopping anyone from te...

@RSCharlton @NarnianAttorney @MikeWingerii Neat magic trick. So you just eliminated all secondary issues by quipping “sola scriptura”? I believe sola scriptura too. That verse is in the context of st

RT @ryanschatz: @ReformedRant @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii I think that there app

RT @ryanschatz: @ReformedRant @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii I think that there appears to be a translator in the brains of complementarians.…

@ReformedRant @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii I think that there appears to be a translator in the brains of complementarians. We say women are equal and the translator spits out “gay pastor.” Can you guys please stop doing that? The Bible does not com...

@ReformedRant @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii I think that there appears to be a translator in the brains of complementarians. We say women are equal and the translator spits out “gay pastor.” Can you gu

@Ichthusproject @CherylSchatz @pastherandie @MikeWingerii @Crystalisives @ryancduff @will_servant @CharmyRosewolf @bkr8un @JollyStine @jdpritchett So close…you keep saying we all are supposed to have the same attitude but think the women have a great...

@Ichthusproject @CherylSchatz @pastherandie @MikeWingerii @Crystalisives @ryancduff @will_servant @CharmyRosewolf @bkr8un @JollyStine @jdpritchett So close…you keep saying we all are supposed to have

@Jet_Truth @MikeWingerii If a godly woman preaches the truth because she doesn't think that God forbids her, how is that pride? Why isn't a man preaching called pride then? You are presuming that the complementarian view that God has ordained a gend...

@Jet_Truth @MikeWingerii If a godly woman preaches the truth because she doesn't think that God forbids her, how is that pride? Why isn't a man preaching called pride then? You are presuming that the

@CLSRoach Those are good comments. I (and you) not questioning Mike's salvation. I am concerned with the division he will create over what he himself stated is a secondary matter. He should have said that if people cannot tolerate female pastors, the...

@CLSRoach Those are good comments. I (and you) not questioning Mike's salvation. I am concerned with the division he will create over what he himself stated is a secondary matter. He should have said

@JeffreyTanCG @MikeWingerii I'm pretty sure he has been influenced by CBMW and other complementarian writings, but nevertheless, Mike himself states that this is a secondary issue. That means that taking either side should be permissible and we shoul...

@JeffreyTanCG @MikeWingerii I'm pretty sure he has been influenced by CBMW and other complementarian writings, but nevertheless, Mike himself states that this is a secondary issue. That means that tak

@NarnianAttorney You are presuming the complementarian reading of a few passages. There is no prohibition of female pastors for one, and 1Ti 2:12 is dealing with false teaching from a specific woman in Ephesus whom Paul was not naming to protect her;...

@NarnianAttorney You are presuming the complementarian reading of a few passages. There is no prohibition of female pastors for one, and 1Ti 2:12 is dealing with false teaching from a specific woman i

1Ti 2:12 debate

@NarnianAttorney @MikeWingerii No, you aren't understanding. We disagree with complementarians, not with God. If I was in rebellion against God, I would repent. You are treating this issue as primary. And this is the problem I have with Mike's advic...

@NarnianAttorney @MikeWingerii No, you aren't understanding. We disagree with complementarians, not with God. If I was in rebellion against God, I would repent. You are treating this issue as primary

@SolaSisters @MikeWingerii Thanks Christine. As a quick summary, Mike says secondary but acts as though it's a primary issue. For example, he wouldn't recommend leaving "loudly," making waves and taking others with him because a church was Calvinist....

@SolaSisters @MikeWingerii Thanks Christine. As a quick summary, Mike says secondary but acts as though it's a primary issue. For example, he wouldn't recommend leaving "loudly," making waves and taki

@mmmirele @MikeWingerii You are right that in the complementarian view, singleness seems to be completely overlooked or discouraged as though you are missing out on some spiritual benefit. If a woman needs a husband who is her spiritual authority, th...

@mmmirele @MikeWingerii You are right that in the complementarian view, singleness seems to be completely overlooked or discouraged as though you are missing out on some spiritual benefit. If a woman

@James_farmer4 @MikeWingerii So you believe you should loudly leave, making waves and recommending others to follow you over secondary disagreements? If the people you speak to did the same, how long would it take for a church split? From experience ...

@James_farmer4 @MikeWingerii So you believe you should loudly leave, making waves and recommending others to follow you over secondary disagreements? If the people you speak to did the same, how long

@slstruik @MikeWingerii Thanks for sharing your view. So you think that we shoul

@slstruik @MikeWingerii Thanks for sharing your view. So you think that we should loudly leave and make waves commending others to leave too based on disagreements over secondary matters? Would you ap

@ryancduff @will_servant @CherylSchatz @CharmyRosewolf @Ichthusproject @bkr8un @pastherandie @JollyStine @Crystalisives @jdpritchett @MikeWingerii His website claims his ministry is supported by donations. I asked GPT what the potential ad revenue wo...

@ryancduff @will_servant @CherylSchatz @CharmyRosewolf @Ichthusproject @bkr8un @pastherandie @JollyStine @Crystalisives @jdpritchett @MikeWingerii His website claims his ministry is supported by donat

@Crystalisives @CherylSchatz @pastherandie @MikeWingerii @ryancduff @will_servant @CharmyRosewolf @Ichthusproject @bkr8un @JollyStine @jdpritchett That's right. The detail concerning the shamefulness of women speaking can't be due to interrupting as ...

@Crystalisives @CherylSchatz @pastherandie @MikeWingerii @ryancduff @will_servant @CharmyRosewolf @Ichthusproject @bkr8un @JollyStine @jdpritchett That's right. The detail concerning the shamefulness

@Crystalisives @CherylSchatz @pastherandie @MikeWingerii @ryancduff @will_servant @CharmyRosewolf @Ichthusproject @bkr8un @JollyStine @jdpritchett You are right, there are verses where others are silent. What is curious is that in 1Co 14:34, the 3rd...

@Crystalisives @CherylSchatz @pastherandie @MikeWingerii @ryancduff @will_servant @CharmyRosewolf @Ichthusproject @bkr8un @JollyStine @jdpritchett You are right, there are verses where others are sile

1Co 14:34 debate

@PensiveJustin @MikeWingerii One option is if it doesn't sit right with you and

@PensiveJustin @MikeWingerii One option is if it doesn't sit right with you and you are intolerant of secondary differences, then quietly and peaceably find a complementarian church.

@carol66944 @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii Mike's statement is contradictory. How can he call someone to repent from teachings he himself calls secondary? He is treating egalitarians as disobedient and rebellious and therefore is removing himself from t...

@carol66944 @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii Mike's statement is contradictory. How can he call someone to repent from teachings he himself calls secondary? He is treating egalitarians as disobedient and r

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@DrTPeck1 1) Yes, it is secondary. I believe that both complementarians and egalitarians can find some compromise and work together. Certainly at the denomination level, allowing some churches to be full egalitarian, and then some churches may just n...

@DrTPeck1 1) Yes, it is secondary. I believe that both complementarians and egalitarians can find some compromise and work together. Certainly at the denomination level, allowing some churches to be f

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-10

@Louisa_J_Watt @NijayKGupta He's not biased against women; he's biased against e

@Louisa_J_Watt @NijayKGupta He's not biased against women; he's biased against egalitarianism. I have lots more evidence, some going back 5 years. You don't have any evidence I'm misrepresenting him o

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-10

@Louisa_J_Watt @ryancduff @MikeWingerii I certainly have points of agreement with him. As a complementarian (until he called for egalitarians to repent and loudly leave their churches), I found him much more moderate or "soft." He appears to claim hi...

@Louisa_J_Watt @ryancduff @MikeWingerii I certainly have points of agreement with him. As a complementarian (until he called for egalitarians to repent and loudly leave their churches), I found him mu