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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-08-18

@pauldirks @KaeleyT Elaborating on Gen 3:16… Why did God tell Eve that her husband would rule over her rather than God saying to Adam that He gave him rule over her? God did not say to Eve that she was to be in a place of permanent subordination. Wh...

@pauldirks @KaeleyT Elaborating on Gen 3:16… Why did God tell Eve that her husband would rule over her rather than God saying to Adam that He gave him rule over her? God did not say to Eve that she w

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@pauldirks @KaeleyT One other point, if the plain reading is so clear, then why

@pauldirks @KaeleyT One other point, if the plain reading is so clear, then why do men interpret 1 Tim 3 that a pastor can be single and without children? Is that the plain meaning?

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@pauldirks @KaeleyT I’m just finishing up your proelium series on Sex and Gender, so I am aware of your perspective and the ways in which you differ from other complementarians. I care little about the majority view as we don’t judge scripture based...

@pauldirks @KaeleyT I’m just finishing up your proelium series on Sex and Gender, so I am aware of your perspective and the ways in which you differ from other complementarians. I care little about t

@pauldirks @KaeleyT Elaborating on Gen 3:16… Why did God tell Eve that her husband would rule over her rather than God saying to Adam that He gave him rule over her? God did not say to Eve that she was to be in a place of permanent subordination. Wh...

@pauldirks @KaeleyT One other point, if the plain reading is so clear, then why

@pauldirks @KaeleyT I’m just finishing up your proelium series on Sex and Gender, so I am aware of your perspective and the ways in which you differ from other complementarians. I care little about the majority view as we don’t judge scripture based...

@pauldirks @KaeleyT I hear the interpretive gymnastics response from many complementarians. The fact is that I’m just dealing with the complexities in the text that the apostle Paul himself put in there and Peter admits that Paul writes about things...

@pauldirks @KaeleyT The exact same thing applies to your interpretation as well.

@pauldirks @KaeleyT You make it seem that husbands and wives don’t *equally* submit to the Lord. In other words, you appear to be saying that a woman has a mediator between herself and the Lord, her husband, and that she submits to the Lord through h...

@pauldirks @KaeleyT Yes of course. But I was speaking in context of Ephesians 5

@pauldirks @KaeleyT Ok, but husbands are not an authority over their wives as in

@pauldirks @KaeleyT Wives submitting to their husbands is in the context of the

@ronhenzel In Ephesians 2:8, Paul's focus on being 'in Christ' emphasizes what believers obtain through faith, not a predestination of who will have faith. The matching gender between 'mercy' and 'gift' aligns with this context, showing that salvatio...

In Ephesians 2:8, the Greek neuter term 'δῶρον' (gift) aligns in gender with 'ἔλεος' (mercy) from v4, not with 'πίστις' (faith) or 'χάρις' (grace). Considering Paul's complex sentences, could many be wrong about this well known verse and 'it is a gif...

@SchuylerTaylor4 @pauldirks @KaeleyT I turn on notifications but don’t turn on b

@SchuylerTaylor4 @pauldirks @KaeleyT Do you see these? https://t.co/CYXbPIepNw

@pauldirks @SchuylerTaylor4 @KaeleyT I think you have to follow and then specify all posts or all posts and replies otherwise if you don’t interact with the person you subscribed to it won’t prioritize them. I see posts from people I don’t subscribe...

@pauldirks @KaeleyT Yes, there are differences beyond the physical. However, these differences should not be misconstrued as barriers to women’s capacity for leadership, theological study, teaching, or preaching. The real question we should be askin...

@pauldirks @KaeleyT Which is closer and what modifications would you make?

@BogdanOancea77 @Hansronsdorf However, for one to prophesy but not be able to teach is very strange indeed. Prophesy is not always future telling but also explaining God’s word. In v36 the “you” is plural masculine. How would one know that Paul is...

@pauldirks @KaeleyT Perhaps I should say “more” biblical…

@pauldirks @KaeleyT Paul, we are “Wet Coast” people. Which of the following umb

@pauldirks @KaeleyT @CharmyRosewolf It’s tricky to write something comprehensively and concisely that captures everything. Here’s my attempt! The husband uses his gifts to serve his wife (as does the wife to her husband). Christ’s example of setti...

@pauldirks @KaeleyT I may have actually attended one of these, but I will most certainly listen (again) to them! Thanks for sharing. To reply to the short form you provided. Even if each gender more prominently displays these specific characterist...

@pauldirks @KaeleyT @CharmyRosewolf Let me ‘splain. It’s that you think the wife is not also to emulate Christ in the way that Ephesians 5 describes of the husband. Perhaps the husband is to go first but the wife treads the same path as it is the s...

@pauldirks @KaeleyT What specifically in a woman’s constitution makes her incapa

@KaeleyT @pauldirks @CharmyRosewolf I agree with you. Though he may claim men a

@KaeleyT @pauldirks @CharmyRosewolf I know Paul and although I disagree with him

@pauldirks @KaeleyT The apostle Paul is speaking into situations where the woman is treated as necessary to bear children and keep house—more as a slave or property. He is calling these men to a higher standard. But he is not meaning that women als...

@pauldirks @KaeleyT Can you outline the rest of the differences?

@pauldirks @KaeleyT @CharmyRosewolf If it’s just an analogy because of marriage which doesn’t restrict women from leadership roles, if it doesn’t mean the husband breaking every tie (unless by mutual consent), if it doesn’t mean you peer into the eye...

@pauldirks @KaeleyT I love that you said “persuade me”! You are right that the

@pauldirks @CharmyRosewolf @KaeleyT The husband is a type of Christ but that doesn’t mean that the wife is not also to follow the example of Christ. There is only one Christ, not a female one for females to follow and a male one just for males to fo...

@pauldirks @CharmyRosewolf @KaeleyT Paul, what is your response to this? https:/

@KaeleyT @pauldirks Perhaps what Paul means is male priority. Supremacy is too charged and extreme for what he is proposing. I still disagree with male priority on scriptural grounds. At best, we might see it something like the man was first follo...

RT @ryanschatz: @pauldirks @KaeleyT Paul, I think you are suggesting that the ma

@pauldirks @KaeleyT Paul, I think you are suggesting that the male gender represents Christ and the female gender represents humanity and so any confusion of what you see as a direct connection of gender to the gospel impacts the gospel itself. Yet,...

@KaeleyT @pauldirks There is a feminist movement that is very clearly hostile to males perhaps reactionary to patriarchy. And of course the patriarchists can often be seen as hostile to women, often upset when any of them do things that they don’t t...

@KaeleyT @pauldirks And this is precisely why the apostle Paul writes to men to

@pauldirks @KaeleyT Yes, Christ sacrificed to save His bride but His bride consists of both men and women who are in turn called to lay down their lives for one another. Laying down one’s life is not a gendered requirement. And women sacrifice thei...

@JohnMoo26668690 That wasn’t Paul…he was quoting (and refuting) the Corinthians.

@JohnMoo26668690 @jones_shaun @M_Jensen23 You are misrepresenting Paul’s meaning

@JohnMoo26668690 “Paul would laugh at you” It’s actually the other way around. Paul writes in 1 Cor 14:36: “What? Came the word of God out from you [men]? Or came it unto you [men] only?” (KJV) Paul uses plural masculine for “you” in the above ve...

@JohnMoo26668690 Yes, I am aware of 1 Tim 2:11-15 and 1 Cor 11:1-16. I have exegeted 1 Tim 2:11-15 in the attached thread. I have already taught through 1 Cor 11:1-16…I just haven’t had time to put it up on Twitter yet. Coming soon. But it is cle...

@Veritas1646 @samuel_costner @thescottbarber The argument is that Judiazers have infiltrated the churches (an example is in Gal 2:4-5 related to circumcision). They see the chaos in the Corinthian service and are likely shocked by the women that a...

@thescottbarber Paul is refuting the idea from the letter the Corinthians wrote

@Veritas1646 @samuel_costner @thescottbarber What would the disjunctive be used if Paul was emphasizing the statement in v35? Paul is clearly refuting v34-35 which contradict what Paul was saying in the rest of the chapter that “all could prophesy” ...

@JohnHar63885981 @DickSaban1 Paul starts out "Whoever aspires to be an overseer desires a noble task" not "males that aspire" but "whoever" which is the word τις You cannot take a statement about monogamy and then apply "must be male" as Paul says "...

@PubliusJosephus @DickSaban1 Paul nowhere says that Phoebe is an exception, so we have to consider whether our understanding of what Paul was intending in 1 Tim 3 and Titus 1 is correct. Further, it's not just Phoebe we have to consider, but even mo...

1 Tim 2:11-15 ⎯ Paul writes a personal letter to Timothy to instruct him to stop

1 Cor 14:34-36 ⎯ Paul refutes Judaizers infiltrating Corinthian church. https://

1 Tim 3:1-13; Titus 1:5-9 ⎯ Character qualifications for leadership; Paul doesn'

@JohnHar63885981 @trentonpastor I don’t believe it is a contradiction to the int

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@pauldirks @KaeleyT You make it seem that husbands and wives don’t equally submit to the Lord. In other words, you appear to be saying that a woman has a mediator between herself and the Lord, her husband, and that she submits to the Lord through h...