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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-27

@shortgeorge2 @Grokingreality Who is “the woman”? Why didn’t Paul say “Eve”? ht

@shortgeorge2 @Grokingreality Who is “the woman”? Why didn’t Paul say “Eve”? https://t.co/lwAJ5mgNRm

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-27

@SpiritofourLord @lukeappleton Do you understand this? Paul uses “the woman” in

@SpiritofourLord @lukeappleton Do you understand this? Paul uses “the woman” instead of “Eve.” “She (singular) will be saved (future tense, ie can’t be Eve) through the (definite article) childbeari

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-27

@hickoryhill8520 And a particular couple, the wife who was teaching false doctri

@hickoryhill8520 And a particular couple, the wife who was teaching false doctrine which led her off the reservation. Paul knew what it is to be deceived and shows grace by not naming her. https://t.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-27

@PaulaLynnWard @debbaxara @DuckieLouise Hmm. https://t.co/lwAJ5mgNRm

@PaulaLynnWard @debbaxara @DuckieLouise Hmm. https://t.co/lwAJ5mgNRm

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-26

@OccamsBraiser @iheartJ37 @MikeWingerii That some quotes aren’t introduced means that it is possible. Therefore, we need to read in context to determine whether or not this is a quote. Paul says to eagerly desire to prophesy, not that everyone will...

@OccamsBraiser @iheartJ37 @MikeWingerii That some quotes aren’t introduced means that it is possible. Therefore, we need to read in context to determine whether or not this is a quote. Paul says to

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-26

@OccamsBraiser @iheartJ37 @MikeWingerii What stands is Paul’s statements in the beginning of chapter 14 up to verses 34-35 and Paul’s questions in verse 36 that contradict verses 34 & 35. My sources were the Exegetical Dictionary of the New Test...

@OccamsBraiser @iheartJ37 @MikeWingerii What stands is Paul’s statements in the beginning of chapter 14 up to verses 34-35 and Paul’s questions in verse 36 that contradict verses 34 & 35. My sour

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-26

@OccamsBraiser @iheartJ37 @MikeWingerii Ah, thanks. I learned a new term today. “A fortiori = with greater reason or more convincing force.” You are right—I’m not saying Paul is using “nomos” for rabbinical traditions but that he is quoting from t...

@OccamsBraiser @iheartJ37 @MikeWingerii Ah, thanks. I learned a new term today. “A fortiori = with greater reason or more convincing force.” You are right—I’m not saying Paul is using “nomos” for r

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-26

@AdamPage85 This is a case study of what Paul may have been addressing in 1 Cor

@AdamPage85 This is a case study of what Paul may have been addressing in 1 Cor 14, though the screaming and emotional frenzy makes it another level.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-26

@OccamsBraiser @iheartJ37 @MikeWingerii About Paul not introducing vv34-35 as a quote. Paul doesn’t always introduce his quote such as in 1 Cor 10:23. In 14:34-35 the “or” in v36 is used as a contrastive because vv34-35 contradict what Paul writes ...

@OccamsBraiser @iheartJ37 @MikeWingerii About Paul not introducing vv34-35 as a quote. Paul doesn’t always introduce his quote such as in 1 Cor 10:23. In 14:34-35 the “or” in v36 is used as a contra

1 Cor 10:23 In 14:34-35 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-26

@OccamsBraiser @iheartJ37 @MikeWingerii - yes, women speaking is gender specific. But why only women? Why is their speech shameful, base, filthy? - the only ones who have to learn at home are wives. But Paul says: "For you can all prophesy one by...

@OccamsBraiser @iheartJ37 @MikeWingerii - yes, women speaking is gender specific. But why only women? Why is their speech shameful, base, filthy? - the only ones who have to learn at home are wives.

1Cor 14:31 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-26

@OccamsBraiser @iheartJ37 @MikeWingerii - Not shameful to interrupt (as that wouldn’t be gender specific). - What makes married women specifically out of order for speaking? - what about single women who cannot ask their husbands? What about younger...

@OccamsBraiser @iheartJ37 @MikeWingerii - Not shameful to interrupt (as that wouldn’t be gender specific). - What makes married women specifically out of order for speaking? - what about single women

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-26

@Ken_FiveSolas Well, why would Paul not want women to speak when he encouraged A

@Ken_FiveSolas Well, why would Paul not want women to speak when he encouraged ALL to seek spiritual gifts in order to benefit the WHOLE body? The key is 1 Cor 7:1 "Now for the matters you wrote abou

1 Cor 7:1 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-26

@YLTAJoe No, this is just false teaching. Paul was not stopping women from teac

@YLTAJoe No, this is just false teaching. Paul was not stopping women from teaching true doctrine. The key to 1 Cor 14:34-35 is 1 Cor 7:1 "Now for the matters you wrote about..." https://t.co/0UJxaS

1 Cor 14:34-35 1 Cor 7:1 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-26

@SMAMnstr39246 @FordhamOrthodox But why would Paul keep all the women silent whe

@SMAMnstr39246 @FordhamOrthodox But why would Paul keep all the women silent when in the rest of the chapter he talks about everyone using their gifts for the benefit of all? The key to this passage

1 Cor 7:1 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-26

@bjoropeza1 Wouldn't it be a problem if anyone (male or female) was interrupting? What about unmarried women that don't have a husband to teach them? Didn't Paul say that "all could learn"? Why would he stop women? The key is 1 Cor 7:1 "Now for t...

@bjoropeza1 Wouldn't it be a problem if anyone (male or female) was interrupting? What about unmarried women that don't have a husband to teach them? Didn't Paul say that "all could learn"? Why wou

1 Cor 7:1 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-26

@Shshshahawn @pearlythingz You need to read this passage in context and make sen

@Shshshahawn @pearlythingz You need to read this passage in context and make sense of the grammar, the personal details Paul shares with Timothy, the reference to Adam and Eve and "she (singular) will

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-26

@Snuggernaut1 @chadlyrose @sovereignbrah You need to read this passage in context and make sense of the grammar. Paul's difficult grammar is because of what he tells Timothy in the first chapter. And the reference to Adam and Eve is not about hiera...

@Snuggernaut1 @chadlyrose @sovereignbrah You need to read this passage in context and make sense of the grammar. Paul's difficult grammar is because of what he tells Timothy in the first chapter. An

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-26

@Snuggernaut1 @chadlyrose @sovereignbrah Except Paul is refuting this quotation

@Snuggernaut1 @chadlyrose @sovereignbrah Except Paul is refuting this quotation from the Corinthian letter. https://t.co/0UJxaSEb7U

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-26

@coramdeo1 @mbird12 @ivpacademic I doubt this passage has anything to do with Artemis. Well, at least Paul doesn't explain what the false teaching is. But he also doesn't tell Timothy to stop women from teaching true doctrine. The grammar is also ...

@coramdeo1 @mbird12 @ivpacademic I doubt this passage has anything to do with Artemis. Well, at least Paul doesn't explain what the false teaching is. But he also doesn't tell Timothy to stop women

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-26

@SamanthaAsia2 This passage has been taken out of context. Paul's personal letter to Timothy was to stop false teaching, not to stop women from teaching the truth. And the grammar is very specific for reasons provided in Chapter 1. And verse 15 sa...

@SamanthaAsia2 This passage has been taken out of context. Paul's personal letter to Timothy was to stop false teaching, not to stop women from teaching the truth. And the grammar is very specific f

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-26

@KJBTruth Except you are completely misinterpreting it. Remember, this was a pe

@KJBTruth Except you are completely misinterpreting it. Remember, this was a personal letter to Timothy from Paul who asked him to stop false teaching, not to stop women from teaching true doctrine.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-26

@Maxwellian2001 @GnosisRevelator @WWUTTcom Not quite. That passage is being mis

@Maxwellian2001 @GnosisRevelator @WWUTTcom Not quite. That passage is being misunderstood. The grammar is very specific and the context of the personal letter to Timothy and what Paul says in the fi

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-24

@BogdanOancea77 According to 1 Cor 14:34-35, a woman should not speak in the assembly. Paul permitted women prophesying, but some in the Corinthian church were trying to put a stop to that. “Have two or three prophets speak, and have the others pas...

@BogdanOancea77 According to 1 Cor 14:34-35, a woman should not speak in the assembly. Paul permitted women prophesying, but some in the Corinthian church were trying to put a stop to that. “Have tw

1 Cor 14:34-35 1 Corinthians 14:29 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-24

@BogdanOancea77 Where does the text say that it is disgraceful for the men? It is the men who are calling it disgraceful and shameful. It is the men who Paul is refuting. The point is not "why do these men need to be taught by women?" but "why do ...

@BogdanOancea77 Where does the text say that it is disgraceful for the men? It is the men who are calling it disgraceful and shameful. It is the men who Paul is refuting. The point is not "why do t

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-24

@BogdanOancea77 @BarakWatson @justasbefuddled Paul is the one changing the gramm

@BogdanOancea77 @BarakWatson @justasbefuddled Paul is the one changing the grammar. I think your accusation is not against me but against the apostle Paul. I'm just trying to understand what he mean

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-24

@BogdanOancea77 Are you suggesting that the Council of Carthage is inspired? Th

@BogdanOancea77 Are you suggesting that the Council of Carthage is inspired? This is more than 3 centuries after the start of the church and the churches were already being influenced in the wrong di

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

@BogdanOancea77 I know you don't think I understand. But I'm giving evidence that Paul quotes several times from the letter from the Corinthians, there are no "quote marks" in the earliest Greek manuscripts, and verses 34-35 are contradicting what P...

@BogdanOancea77 I know you don't think I understand. But I'm giving evidence that Paul quotes several times from the letter from the Corinthians, there are no "quote marks" in the earliest Greek manu

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

@BogdanOancea77 We see the answer from Jesus in Mark 7:1-13. I would think that anything that prevents people from doing what God said. In this case, preventing women from speaking and preventing women from learning prevented them from obeying what...

@BogdanOancea77 We see the answer from Jesus in Mark 7:1-13. I would think that anything that prevents people from doing what God said. In this case, preventing women from speaking and preventing wo

Mark 7:1-13 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

@BogdanOancea77 My comment was that if taken strictly literally, it means no vocalization. Thankfully 99%+ of the churches I know of don't take this passage this way. 1. First, teaching is a gift which might be included in "word of instruction" fro...

@BogdanOancea77 My comment was that if taken strictly literally, it means no vocalization. Thankfully 99%+ of the churches I know of don't take this passage this way. 1. First, teaching is a gift wh

1Cor14:6 commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

@GlennDavies @danitreweek In a very brief response to your comment that "elders were qualified men," I believe you are importing male only requirements into these texts. ✏️There is nowhere in 1 Tim 3:1-13 and Titus 1:5-9 that says that an elder must ...

@GlennDavies @danitreweek In a very brief response to your comment that "elders were qualified men," I believe you are importing male only requirements into these texts. ✏️There is nowhere in 1 Tim 3:

Titus 1:5-9 1 Tim 3:1-13 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

@GlennDavies @danitreweek Because that's what apostles do. They plant churches and planting churches implies appointing elders. Regarding Paul only mentioning her in this one commendation is not unusual for any elder or deacon. Most are not mentio...

@GlennDavies @danitreweek Because that's what apostles do. They plant churches and planting churches implies appointing elders. Regarding Paul only mentioning her in this one commendation is not unu

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

@BogdanOancea77 @BarakWatson @justasbefuddled Verses 11 and 12 contain an anarthrous noun (without the article), so in Greek, when we have a later reference with the article (v14 "the woman"), it is taken as an anaphoric reference back to the anarthr...

@BogdanOancea77 @BarakWatson @justasbefuddled Verses 11 and 12 contain an anarthrous noun (without the article), so in Greek, when we have a later reference with the article (v14 "the woman"), it is t

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

23/23🧵In summary, what makes the most sense of these verses in context in light

23/23🧵In summary, what makes the most sense of these verses in context in light of Paul responding to matters raised in the Corinthian letter to him is that he quotes from their letter and responds or

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

22/23🧵Question: How does stopping women edify the church? What does Paul have to say to those who disregard his instructions that ALL are to excel in spiritual gifts to EDIFY the church (v12) for the COMMON good (v7) and for edification (v26)? He t...

22/23🧵Question: How does stopping women edify the church? What does Paul have to say to those who disregard his instructions that ALL are to excel in spiritual gifts to EDIFY the church (v12) for the

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

20/23🧵In summary: no women learning the scripture? No women giving forth the wo

20/23🧵In summary: no women learning the scripture? No women giving forth the word? NONSENSE! Adam Clarke and Sir William Ramsay both take this as Paul quoting from the Corinthians (see below): http

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

19/23🧵Would Paul have used the oral law to back up his doctrine? Would he have described a woman’s voice as indecent, lewd, filthy, vile or foul? Given the context of the verses surrounding v34-35, I argue absolutely NOT! Paul replies back in the ...

19/23🧵Would Paul have used the oral law to back up his doctrine? Would he have described a woman’s voice as indecent, lewd, filthy, vile or foul? Given the context of the verses surrounding v34-35,

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

18/23🧵We must consider whether Paul is quoting from the letter from the Corinthi

18/23🧵We must consider whether Paul is quoting from the letter from the Corinthians and rebuking it. See the attached quote from the 1924 Montgomery translation of the New Testament which interpreted

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

17/23🧵Paul's instructions are meant for ALL in the body: 14:5 - "I would like E

17/23🧵Paul's instructions are meant for ALL in the body: 14:5 - "I would like EVERY ONE of you to speak" 14:26 - "EACH of you" 14:27 - "if anyone speaks" 14:31 - "you can ALL prophesy...so everyone m

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

15/23🧵Continuing on in 1 Corinthians, we see that Paul responds to other matters

15/23🧵Continuing on in 1 Corinthians, we see that Paul responds to other matters from their letter, and in each case, the quote has to be determined by the context! https://t.co/Lo5Jh17Rei

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

14/23🧵Earlier in chapter 5 Paul noted the sexual immorality among them⎯so this is why he responded the way he does in ch 7. Paul shows how abstaining from things doesn't resolve the problem. See how Paul addresses this issue in the letter to the Co...

14/23🧵Earlier in chapter 5 Paul noted the sexual immorality among them⎯so this is why he responded the way he does in ch 7. Paul shows how abstaining from things doesn't resolve the problem. See how

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

12/23🧵Just looking at the translations you can see that some use quotation marks

12/23🧵Just looking at the translations you can see that some use quotation marks, some don’t. Some use commas or colons. Imagine how easy it is to misunderstand this to mean that Paul was advocating

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

11/23🧵In the context of this first letter from Paul to the church at Corinth, in

11/23🧵In the context of this first letter from Paul to the church at Corinth, in 1 Cor 7:1, Paul begins to respond to specific matters from their prior letter: "Now concerning the things you wrote ab

1 Cor 7:1 commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

10/23🧵There is no denying the fact that the Jewish oral laws forbade women from

10/23🧵There is no denying the fact that the Jewish oral laws forbade women from speaking in the assembly. Paul never gave validity to these oral laws to form the basis of the church. https://t.co/Q2aI

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

6/23🧵How could Paul be making the statement that women speaking in church is lik

6/23🧵How could Paul be making the statement that women speaking in church is like the disgrace of being a prostitute? Where is this reflected in the law?? https://t.co/ZpZYroN9Aw

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-22

@BogdanOancea77 @BarakWatson @justasbefuddled @MikeWingerii When we are debating these issues, you cannot just quote the Bible, you have to explain it. What does head mean in this context? Is Paul referring to authority and hierarchy to explain the...

@BogdanOancea77 @BarakWatson @justasbefuddled @MikeWingerii When we are debating these issues, you cannot just quote the Bible, you have to explain it. What does head mean in this context? Is Paul r

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-22

@Richard56245924 @justasbefuddled @MikeWingerii Only Gentiles were made equal?

@Richard56245924 @justasbefuddled @MikeWingerii Only Gentiles were made equal? Why does Paul list them together with women? What about the churches Paul planted in scripture?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-22

@Richard56245924 @justasbefuddled @MikeWingerii First, you cannot possibly know that no one questioned it. Second, Timothy would have understood that Paul wasn’t stopping women from teaching the truth (for instance). Third, we follow what the Bible...

@Richard56245924 @justasbefuddled @MikeWingerii First, you cannot possibly know that no one questioned it. Second, Timothy would have understood that Paul wasn’t stopping women from teaching the trut

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-21

@calandgrant @MikeWingerii 1) Does Paul say the woman is not also the glory of God? No. 2) No, rather since Eve was made from Adam's flesh and bone Adam's transgression applies to all humanity. Adam's sin was different than Eve's; God considered i...

@calandgrant @MikeWingerii 1) Does Paul say the woman is not also the glory of God? No. 2) No, rather since Eve was made from Adam's flesh and bone Adam's transgression applies to all humanity. Ada

Hosea 6:7 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-20

@LauraRicha42528 @_nomadic_soul @LifeWithoutLack @DrFrankTurek I don't disagree with you, but we're talking about what Paul wrote and you seem to be avoiding admitting things I pointed out from Paul's text that are right in front of you. Once you ad...

@LauraRicha42528 @_nomadic_soul @LifeWithoutLack @DrFrankTurek I don't disagree with you, but we're talking about what Paul wrote and you seem to be avoiding admitting things I pointed out from Paul's

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-20

@LauraRicha42528 @_nomadic_soul @LifeWithoutLack @DrFrankTurek Or Isaiah? At le

@LauraRicha42528 @_nomadic_soul @LifeWithoutLack @DrFrankTurek Or Isaiah? At least we have an early copy of something written by Paul. Don't you think that's more relevant than a Hebrew manuscript i

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