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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-25

@Whitehorse1255 @MikeWingerii Whether the men take greater risks or not has nothing to do with the truth that women are not forbidden from serving as elders. Further, I can demonstrate that there are many women who have risked their lives for the gos...

@Whitehorse1255 @MikeWingerii Whether the men take greater risks or not has nothing to do with the truth that women are not forbidden from serving as elders. Further, I can demonstrate that there are

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-25

@Whitehorse1255 @MikeWingerii That they have different 'expression' when it come

@Whitehorse1255 @MikeWingerii That they have different 'expression' when it comes to leadership doesn't mean that one is allowed to be a leader or elder and the other is not.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-18

@dantheman278 @MikeWingerii Mike is complementarian and believes that it is the

@dantheman278 @MikeWingerii Mike is complementarian and believes that it is the man's responsibility alone to be an elder and to be the final authority in the home. https://t.co/mcCOGijq3H

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-14

@Methodios007 We have elders. As I said, it is clear from Paul's writings that b

@Methodios007 We have elders. As I said, it is clear from Paul's writings that bishop and elder are used interchangeably. It doesn't really matter what you call them. What matters is their qualificati

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-14

@BahBahBased @smashbaals I am convinced by scripture that women are not excluded

@BahBahBased @smashbaals I am convinced by scripture that women are not excluded from serving as elders or pastoral work like counselling or leadership roles.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-14

@BahBahBased @smashbaals No, I am not. Pastoring is counselling and guiding and leading by example, all things that elders, overseers or shepherds do. Females are not exempt from these roles. In fact, it is far better for a female to be counseled by ...

@BahBahBased @smashbaals No, I am not. Pastoring is counselling and guiding and leading by example, all things that elders, overseers or shepherds do. Females are not exempt from these roles. In fact,

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-14

@Methodios007 We don’t use Greek terms. We just call them elders or overseers.

@Methodios007 We don’t use Greek terms. We just call them elders or overseers.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-14

@Methodios007 The Greek word πρεσβύτερος (presbyteros), which literally means "elder" is used to denote someone recognized with wisdom and the ability to lead and teach and with godly character. The term for overseer is ἐπίσκοπος (episkopos) which t...

@Methodios007 The Greek word πρεσβύτερος (presbyteros), which literally means "elder" is used to denote someone recognized with wisdom and the ability to lead and teach and with godly character. The

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-14

@Methodios007 Bishops / overseers / elders are all used interchangeably in scrip

@Methodios007 Bishops / overseers / elders are all used interchangeably in scripture.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-14

@JulieCobbe @smashbaals How is serving the church a mind set in the flesh? Elder

@JulieCobbe @smashbaals How is serving the church a mind set in the flesh? Elders and pastors are slaves of Christ. At least they should be.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-14

@HasDiscernment @smashbaals What if she serves because she understands the Bible

@HasDiscernment @smashbaals What if she serves because she understands the Bible doesn’t forbid women from serving as elders and pastors? How is this prideful?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-14

@cityoftheplain9 @smashbaals Usually there are multiple elders in a church. Is i

@cityoftheplain9 @smashbaals Usually there are multiple elders in a church. Is it a church if you have at least one male elder??

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-10

@pastherandie @JosiahHawthorne @JayMallow3 Also, if someone is “spreading propaganda” of any kind, the *kind* and *loving* thing to do is correct them. Elders must be able to patiently correct (2Ti 4:2– “with great patience.”) Imagine someone who cam...

@pastherandie @JosiahHawthorne @JayMallow3 Also, if someone is “spreading propaganda” of any kind, the *kind* and *loving* thing to do is correct them. Elders must be able to patiently correct (2Ti 4:

2Ti 4:2 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-09

@leahtrell @iheartJ37 @MikeWingerii Elders are pastors, so yes.

@leahtrell @iheartJ37 @MikeWingerii Elders are pastors, so yes.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-09

@leahtrell @iheartJ37 @MikeWingerii The model is multiple elders with those who

@leahtrell @iheartJ37 @MikeWingerii The model is multiple elders with those who are gifted and qualified being recognized so that the church can go to them for help. Women having the option to go to q

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-08

@leahtrell @iheartJ37 @MikeWingerii Yes, women can cover up scandals. But I’m a

@leahtrell @iheartJ37 @MikeWingerii Yes, women can cover up scandals. But I’m a counselling situation with a woman asking for help would be better handled by a female elder.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-08

@peace_got @Protestia That was my point: you can either be in rebellion to what you believe the text says, or like me, actually following what the text teaches as I have shown it does not forbid female elders. You don’t have to agree with my interpr...

@peace_got @Protestia That was my point: you can either be in rebellion to what you believe the text says, or like me, actually following what the text teaches as I have shown it does not forbid femal

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-08

@harkening @SKokenos @spencer_newell @MikeWingerii If Paul isn’t speaking generically, you have to prove this using other clues in the text. Yet Paul doesn’t explicitly say “an elder must not be a woman” nor does he even use any male pronouns and exp...

@harkening @SKokenos @spencer_newell @MikeWingerii If Paul isn’t speaking generically, you have to prove this using other clues in the text. Yet Paul doesn’t explicitly say “an elder must not be a wom

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-08

@Milocinia @spencer_newell @MikeWingerii That verse doesn’t say “an elder must not be a woman”—there is no verse that says a man is allowed to authentein anyone either. Jesus said clearly that whoever wants to be the greatest should be the slave of a...

@Milocinia @spencer_newell @MikeWingerii That verse doesn’t say “an elder must not be a woman”—there is no verse that says a man is allowed to authentein anyone either. Jesus said clearly that whoever

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-08

@spencer_newell @MikeWingerii Where does scripture say, “an elder must not be a

@spencer_newell @MikeWingerii Where does scripture say, “an elder must not be a woman?” Even Mike agrees that women can be deacons while getting around the fact that deacons are also said to be “one w

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-07

@MikeWingerii You’re almost there, Mike! By the same reasoning, women are not ex

@MikeWingerii You’re almost there, Mike! By the same reasoning, women are not excluded from serving as elders.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-06

@ThomisticRednek @AnneEChisholm @FrMatthewLC The bunch of churches you are refer

@ThomisticRednek @AnneEChisholm @FrMatthewLC The bunch of churches you are referring to are all the one church of Christ if they hold to the fundamentals of the faith. Male-only elders is not a found

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-06

@1deaman @ProGloriaRegis @SamAshCast @Brian_Sauve And by that very same reasonin

@1deaman @ProGloriaRegis @SamAshCast @Brian_Sauve And by that very same reasoning women are not excluded in 1Ti 3 from being overseers or elders.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-06

@robertbrln @ClintHumfrey I think @ClintHumfrey is ok with women teaching just not holding office of elder. But if they can teach and correct (and have the requisite character and gifting) why can’t they lead? He even thinks they can be deacons who ...

@robertbrln @ClintHumfrey I think @ClintHumfrey is ok with women teaching just not holding office of elder. But if they can teach and correct (and have the requisite character and gifting) why can’t t

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-05

@ClintHumfrey So she can shepherd, guide, teach and correct so long as she doesn

@ClintHumfrey So she can shepherd, guide, teach and correct so long as she doesn’t have the title of elder? And only if she does this for women and little children?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-09-25

@JCalebJones @Phil_Johnson_ Mt 18 is still not being followed here, IMO. The purpose of 1 or 2 witnesses is to 'confirm every fact' (Mt 18:16), & those witnesses are to stand before the entire church if he is unrepentant (Mt 18:17). Elders that a...

@JCalebJones @Phil_Johnson_ Mt 18 is still not being followed here, IMO. The purpose of 1 or 2 witnesses is to 'confirm every fact' (Mt 18:16), & those witnesses are to stand before the entire chu

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-09-22

@ymmotrojam @YourCalvinist Well, those who have additional responsibility for the proper functioning of the church should lead in this⎯by leading, I mean demonstrating the very things that all should emulate. Elders are not called to 'lord it over' ...

@ymmotrojam @YourCalvinist Well, those who have additional responsibility for the proper functioning of the church should lead in this⎯by leading, I mean demonstrating the very things that all should

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-09-22

@ymmotrojam @YourCalvinist Admonishing is not the sole privilege of elders. http

@ymmotrojam @YourCalvinist Admonishing is not the sole privilege of elders. https://t.co/rMFoNl7V72

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-09-21

@ymmotrojam @YourCalvinist Jesus is the one who knows what He wants for His own church. And Jesus purposely excluded any mention of elders because it is not up to the elders to carry out church discipline, but the church. Jesus' words were not meant...

@ymmotrojam @YourCalvinist Jesus is the one who knows what He wants for His own church. And Jesus purposely excluded any mention of elders because it is not up to the elders to carry out church discip

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-09-21

@ymmotrojam @YourCalvinist The final say in Matt 18 for church discipline is the

@ymmotrojam @YourCalvinist The final say in Matt 18 for church discipline is the entire church. Elders are not even mentioned.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-09-20

@carol66944 Hm. But we still have fellowship with those who believe only men can

@carol66944 Hm. But we still have fellowship with those who believe only men can be elders and pastors, right?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-09-19

@Tailfeathers_WA @QuixoteSword Mat 13:12? What are you taking away from me that I have? The fact is that some accept female elders and pastors in rejection of the text. Others, like me, carefully study and conclude that the text is consistent with f...

@Tailfeathers_WA @QuixoteSword Mat 13:12? What are you taking away from me that I have? The fact is that some accept female elders and pastors in rejection of the text. Others, like me, carefully stu

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-09-17

@The_njp @MikeWingerii Whether the office of elder is limited to males only or n

@The_njp @MikeWingerii Whether the office of elder is limited to males only or not is secondary. Primary are things that unify all Christians and also matters of sin. Egalitarians are not sinning pure

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-09-07

@DelaKram75 @Ryan_Adair_A Again, there were no pulpits in the early church. I pr

@DelaKram75 @Ryan_Adair_A Again, there were no pulpits in the early church. I presume, there were elders in every home church. What is the reason for the prohibition on preaching and teaching "from th

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-09-06

@BoilerLevi @KaeleyT As an egalitarian, I’ve gotten along well in complementarian churches, though maybe it’s because my wife doesn’t feel led to preach or join the elders. Some comp churches won’t allow me to join the leadership team just for disagr...

@BoilerLevi @KaeleyT As an egalitarian, I’ve gotten along well in complementarian churches, though maybe it’s because my wife doesn’t feel led to preach or join the elders. Some comp churches won’t al

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-08-13

@ThatSarahLynn @JamMom89 @Yeshua438849431 @firegirl2510 @Chad4328 I’m confused—an entire set of requirements? Yes, Jesus is the “chief shepherd” and as such is the only one explicitly called out as a pastor. Peter exhorts the elders to shepherd. Ho...

@ThatSarahLynn @JamMom89 @Yeshua438849431 @firegirl2510 @Chad4328 I’m confused—an entire set of requirements? Yes, Jesus is the “chief shepherd” and as such is the only one explicitly called out as a

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-08-13

@ThatSarahLynn @JamMom89 @Yeshua438849431 @firegirl2510 @Chad4328 I was wondering if you can find any New Testament elder or apostle or anyone that is called a pastor. But if you want to consider the Old Testament: “While he was still talking with ...

@ThatSarahLynn @JamMom89 @Yeshua438849431 @firegirl2510 @Chad4328 I was wondering if you can find any New Testament elder or apostle or anyone that is called a pastor. But if you want to consider the

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-08-06

@CaidenHooks @MikeWingerii He also says that women cannot “teach authoritatively”—but what does this even mean? Do we listen to a pastor or elder because they speak “authoritatively” (like the pope) or because they are Biblical and right? What would ...

@CaidenHooks @MikeWingerii He also says that women cannot “teach authoritatively”—but what does this even mean? Do we listen to a pastor or elder because they speak “authoritatively” (like the pope) o

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-08-01

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii I was asked by the other elders of a church I was

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii I was asked by the other elders of a church I was an elder at to step down. I declined. Was I obligated to step down?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-31

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii The corresponding idea is in 1Ti 4:12 “Let no one despise your youth, but set the believers an example in speech, in conduct, in love, in faith, in purity." Paul encourages confidence and not shrinking back as he would n...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii The corresponding idea is in 1Ti 4:12 “Let no one despise your youth, but set the believers an example in speech, in conduct, in love, in faith, in purity." Paul encourag

1Ti 4:12 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-31

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Does "and subject yourselves to one another in the fear of Christ" (Eph 5:21) not apply between you and the congregant if what the congregant stated was God's will? On what basis is a pastor or elder demanding you step ...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Does "and subject yourselves to one another in the fear of Christ" (Eph 5:21) not apply between you and the congregant if what the congregant stated was God's will? On w

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-31

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Yes, not everyone is an elder. Gifting and proven

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Yes, not everyone is an elder. Gifting and proven character are both imperative. Sorry if I misled you to think otherwise. But if the same thing was said by an elder or b

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-31

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii An elder has a special function and gifting in the body, but all in the body have the same authority to make disciples and to teach them to obey everything Jesus commanded to his disciples. Function—such as oversight—is ...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii An elder has a special function and gifting in the body, but all in the body have the same authority to make disciples and to teach them to obey everything Jesus commande

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-31

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii I submitted to him by not forcing myself into leadership, but he doesn’t have the right to forbid what Jesus did not forbid, so he is in the wrong. If I am living in unrepentant sin and refuse to listen “even to the chu...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii I submitted to him by not forcing myself into leadership, but he doesn’t have the right to forbid what Jesus did not forbid, so he is in the wrong. If I am living in unr

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-31

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii No doubt there are true boundary lines—but those a

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii No doubt there are true boundary lines—but those are established by Christ, not by the authority of an elder. I was barred from being a leader in a local church as I was

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-31

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Now, I would hope that an elder is one because of

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Now, I would hope that an elder is one because of their wisdom and knowledge of the scriptures and the gifting God has given to them, and I want to benefit from that.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-31

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii I’ve done that for non-elders too because I follow Eph 5:21. We are to subject ourselves to one another in the fear of Christ. I don’t ignore a brother or sister who says the same thing to me because they are not an elde...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii I’ve done that for non-elders too because I follow Eph 5:21. We are to subject ourselves to one another in the fear of Christ. I don’t ignore a brother or sister who says

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-19

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Paul uses this prototypically and so reaches for a specific word which illustrates what is going on⎯that a deceived and ignorant (and therefore unnamed) wife is teaching false doctrine and her undeceived husband (likely ...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Paul uses this prototypically and so reaches for a specific word which illustrates what is going on⎯that a deceived and ignorant (and therefore unnamed) wife is teaching

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-13

@StevenMKestner @carol66944 @JoelWBerry Given that only two men—Peter and John—are explicitly referred to as elders in the NT (and it is self identification), I’m quite surprised Carol listed these two Old Testament women as examples of elders. Does...

@StevenMKestner @carol66944 @JoelWBerry Given that only two men—Peter and John—are explicitly referred to as elders in the NT (and it is self identification), I’m quite surprised Carol listed these tw

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-10

@ronhenzel And the witnesses don't need to be elders. And this is not a gang up of those who don't like the person. “I solemnly exhort you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus and of His chosen angels, to maintain these principles without bias...

@ronhenzel And the witnesses don't need to be elders. And this is not a gang up of those who don't like the person. “I solemnly exhort you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus and of His chosen

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