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@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals But again, you want to use "all" to mean literally "all can learn" but want the first all in the same verse ("all can prophesy") to apply to only the men? The fact that they are to do it in ...

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals But again, you want to use "all" to mean literally "all can learn" but want the first all in the same verse ("all can prophesy") to apply to

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals No, v35 says "if they

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals No, v35 says "if they desire to learn ANYTHING let them ask their husbands at home" The options of small group, home group or full church ar

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals So the whole congregation includes the women, right? How is it that he talks about them TO them? He tells the women to silence the women? If that's the case and he includes the women in v36...

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals So the whole congregation includes the women, right? How is it that he talks about them TO them? He tells the women to silence the women? I

@ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals BTW Ron, isn't this interesting... the text says "If they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home" (1Co 14:35). So they cannot ask an elder in church as it says "at home." They are also to a...

@ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals BTW Ron, isn't this interesting... the text says "If they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home" (1Co 14:35). So they cannot ask an elder

1Co 14:35 general

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Tom...you are already in trouble...because you admitted it's ok for women to ask questions in small groups. The text says explicitly: "If they [women] desire to learn anything, let them ask ...

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Tom...you are already in trouble...because you admitted it's ok for women to ask questions in small groups. The text says explicitly: "If th

1Co 14:35 general

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Also, Paul said in v3

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Also, Paul said in v31 that "all can learn" but v35 suggests that women CANNOT LEARN in the community but must learn IN PRIVATE at home with

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Also, you said that women could ask questions in small groups when the whole church is not gathered... but v35 says "if they want to learn" they are supposed to ask their husbands at home, no...

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Also, you said that women could ask questions in small groups when the whole church is not gathered... but v35 says "if they want to learn" t

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Tom ⎯ who in your view is Paul supposedly talking to in v34-35 and who is being spoken to in v36? In v34-35, it is speaking of the women in 3rd person plural, but the "you" in v36 is 2nd pers...

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Tom ⎯ who in your view is Paul supposedly talking to in v34-35 and who is being spoken to in v36? In v34-35, it is speaking of the women in 3

@smashbaals I don’t reject Paul and believe that women are not forbidden from se

@smashbaals I don’t reject Paul and believe that women are not forbidden from serving as pastors. I guess your chart breaks at the first step. 🤷‍♂️

@pastherandie @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Right, you’re just no

@pastherandie @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Right, you’re just not supposed to pass him your question during church as that would not be entirely submissive. Pass him the note before y

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals That translation misses the force of Paul’s words… "What? came the word of God out from you [men]? or came it unto you [men] only?" (1Co 14:36, KJV). The fact is that the word came out from...

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals That translation misses the force of Paul’s words… "What? came the word of God out from you [men]? or came it unto you [men] only?" (1Co 14:

1Co 14:36 question

@pastherandie @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Not referring to Tom or Ron, but there sure have been a lot of people coming out of the woodwork and breathing fire on egalitarians. I had a guy tell me he would not block me over his dead b...

@pastherandie @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Not referring to Tom or Ron, but there sure have been a lot of people coming out of the woodwork and breathing fire on egalitarians. I had a

@kriesese @pastherandie @ronhenzel @smashbaals Paul’s use of that idiom does not mean a married man…else Paul (and Timothy) would be excluded. By the same reasoning, neither is this excluding women. Paul did not say “must not be a woman,” but is sayi...

@kriesese @pastherandie @ronhenzel @smashbaals Paul’s use of that idiom does not mean a married man…else Paul (and Timothy) would be excluded. By the same reasoning, neither is this excluding women. P

@pastherandie @ymmotrojam @914Ann @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Well, no, it’

@pastherandie @ymmotrojam @914Ann @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Well, no, it’s just all these made up yard sticks that get defined by men who try their best to obey commands that the scripture isn’

@pastherandie @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals I don’t blame Ron and Tom for trying hard to find a way for the complementarian view to fit scripture. Hopefully one day they will see more clearly. Unfortunately, men don’t have a lot of mot...

@pastherandie @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals I don’t blame Ron and Tom for trying hard to find a way for the complementarian view to fit scripture. Hopefully one day they will see more c

@pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Yes, but not in Ron or Tom’s chur

@pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Yes, but not in Ron or Tom’s church…

@ymmotrojam @914Ann @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Hey, all the best with whatever restrictions you place on the women in your church. At my church, we don’t want to suppress the holy spirit’s work. We even open up the mic, show a slide outlining...

@ymmotrojam @914Ann @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Hey, all the best with whatever restrictions you place on the women in your church. At my church, we don’t want to suppress the holy spirit’s work

@ymmotrojam @914Ann @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Right because women are nev

@ymmotrojam @914Ann @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Right because women are never meant to share a hymn or a lesson in front of the whole group, just small groups… Must never let a woman encourage th

RT @DeeGoingsGirl: The honeymoon phase of our marriage ended with the literal ho

RT @DeeGoingsGirl: The honeymoon phase of our marriage ended with the literal honeymoon for me and evangelical marriage teaching on roles a…

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Ron says that they could ask the elders—then why is that not what Paul says? Why are only the women guided to ask the elders and not everyone? Tom, you say that Paul just wants to say that the questions s...

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Ron says that they could ask the elders—then why is that not what Paul says? Why are only the women guided to ask the elders and not everyone? Tom, you sa

@LukeMasonVO @kriesese @smashbaals I’m actually asking them to people like you who should be better at reading Paul. Does Paul say non-sensical things? Does he contradict himself even in the very same portion of text (see 1Co 14:31 which says that al...

@LukeMasonVO @kriesese @smashbaals I’m actually asking them to people like you who should be better at reading Paul. Does Paul say non-sensical things? Does he contradict himself even in the very same

1Co 14:31 question

@SKokenos @smashbaals A disciple will eventually be a discipler of others. Whether or not they become full time pastors or not is not the concern. There are no limitations except those based on character and being sound in the faith. Even Moses sai...

@SKokenos @smashbaals A disciple will eventually be a discipler of others. Whether or not they become full time pastors or not is not the concern. There are no limitations except those based on chara

@smashbaals Then why do you believe that a woman is forbidden from serving as a

@smashbaals Then why do you believe that a woman is forbidden from serving as a pastor?

@carol66944 Why do you frame the opposing view as a "one-off marital dispute of

@carol66944 Why do you frame the opposing view as a "one-off marital dispute of usurping"? Are you referring to my view or that of someone else? I don't believe that authentein means "usurping authori

@ronhenzel @ScottCross_8 @ewarner88 @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii Thanks. I only had to spend $11 this time to read the context. Collins himself admits that the wayyiqtol normally implies: "Genesis 2:19 seems to...

@ronhenzel @ScottCross_8 @ewarner88 @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii Thanks. I only had to spend $11 this time to read the context. Collins himself admits that the wayyi

Genesis 2:19 commentary

@ewarner88 @ronhenzel @pastherandie @ScottCross_8 @JollyStine @peace_got @ymmotr

@ewarner88 @ronhenzel @pastherandie @ScottCross_8 @JollyStine @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii Genesis is not history? I’m convinced that God actually wrote at least those first chapters of Genesi

@pastherandie @JohnGal63607182 @ryancduff @Whi79226Anthony @MikeWingerii It’s because he believes it harms the complementarian view that gender roles are to represent Christ and the church. He thinks there is a one way submission in that relationship...

@pastherandie @JohnGal63607182 @ryancduff @Whi79226Anthony @MikeWingerii It’s because he believes it harms the complementarian view that gender roles are to represent Christ and the church. He thinks

RT @AverageSc0t: Let's settle this: Has @MikeWingerii generally treat egalitari

RT @AverageSc0t: Let's settle this: Has @MikeWingerii generally treat egalitarian positions fairly, charitably, and accurately in his crit…

@garlicmofongo @brianaxelm Exactly. The best for hearers is to hear point and counterpoint. The church is meant to interact and not just monologue. I’ll be working on that with the remainder of Mike’s series, trying to find the time and the energy to...

@garlicmofongo @brianaxelm Exactly. The best for hearers is to hear point and counterpoint. The church is meant to interact and not just monologue. I’ll be working on that with the remainder of Mike’s

@AverageSc0t @MikeWingerii Probably the most egregious error with Mike Winger’s conclusion is how he has decided to present egalitarian teachings as something to repent of and which are so dangerous that he advises his followers to leave their egalit...

@AverageSc0t @MikeWingerii Probably the most egregious error with Mike Winger’s conclusion is how he has decided to present egalitarian teachings as something to repent of and which are so dangerous t

@ymmotrojam @914Ann Appreciate your tone, Tom. You are always gracious and are an example. The passage says that women need to be silent and ask their husbands at home. What about single women, widows, women with unbelieving husbands or husbands tha...

@ymmotrojam @914Ann Appreciate your tone, Tom. You are always gracious and are an example. The passage says that women need to be silent and ask their husbands at home. What about single women, widow

@AverageSc0t @MikeWingerii I watched all 43 hours. I saw Mike misrepresenting egalitarian scholars frequently. It seemed like he got to a point where he got really frustrated as he found some issues that didn’t sit right with him and then he took aim...

@AverageSc0t @MikeWingerii I watched all 43 hours. I saw Mike misrepresenting egalitarian scholars frequently. It seemed like he got to a point where he got really frustrated as he found some issues t

@AverageSc0t @MikeWingerii To me—the call for egalitarians that share their views to repent and those who attend egalitarian churches to leave loudly needs a blowhorn. It is like lobbing a grenade at the church and walking away. He says it’s secondar...

@AverageSc0t @MikeWingerii To me—the call for egalitarians that share their views to repent and those who attend egalitarian churches to leave loudly needs a blowhorn. It is like lobbing a grenade at

@freemarketeer1 @DustyMayT @MikeWingerii What is a gross mischaracterization? Women are to be subordinate in the church in that if they feel called to teach (the authoritative scripture) or serve as a pastor, they have to remain subordinate to men (i...

@freemarketeer1 @DustyMayT @MikeWingerii What is a gross mischaracterization? Women are to be subordinate in the church in that if they feel called to teach (the authoritative scripture) or serve as a

@BlueGiant42 @MikeWingerii Mike is considered by a pastor by many of his audience of nearly 700k on YouTube. He is the most popular level advocate today for complementarian teaching. That in itself is fine—he is allowed to hold his own views on thing...

@BlueGiant42 @MikeWingerii Mike is considered by a pastor by many of his audience of nearly 700k on YouTube. He is the most popular level advocate today for complementarian teaching. That in itself is

@Valiant12312 @MikeWingerii Jeremiah—respectfully, you cannot continue in unrepe

@Valiant12312 @MikeWingerii Jeremiah—respectfully, you cannot continue in unrepentant sin and remain in Christian community. Mike literally dropped a grenade on the church and walked out “cause I got

@pastherandie @JollyStine @ronhenzel @ewarner88 @ScottCross_8 @peace_got @ymmotr

@pastherandie @JollyStine @ronhenzel @ewarner88 @ScottCross_8 @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii I think God left the original statement out of the text to challenge Complementarians and Patriarchal

@ronhenzel @ScottCross_8 @pastherandie @ewarner88 @JollyStine @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii Male covenantal headship is being read into the account. All that the account states is that Adam was created first in time sequence and therefore expe...

@ronhenzel @ScottCross_8 @pastherandie @ewarner88 @JollyStine @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii Male covenantal headship is being read into the account. All that the account states is that Adam was

@TheJayHemingway @Randynafso999 Yes, this is why it’s important to show people w

@TheJayHemingway @Randynafso999 Yes, this is why it’s important to show people what the Bible actually teaches.

@TheMuppetPastor @ryancduff @ScottCross_8 @GinaACleveland You don’t evaluate som

@TheMuppetPastor @ryancduff @ScottCross_8 @GinaACleveland You don’t evaluate something by your experience; you evaluate it by scripture.

@TheMuppetPastor @ScottCross_8 @GinaACleveland Where are women forbidden from Se

@TheMuppetPastor @ScottCross_8 @GinaACleveland Where are women forbidden from Serving as leaders and pastors?

@TheMuppetPastor @ScottCross_8 @ryancduff @GinaACleveland We were an RCA church

@TheMuppetPastor @ScottCross_8 @ryancduff @GinaACleveland We were an RCA church but left the denomination because RCA didn’t vote down gay marriage.

@TheMuppetPastor @ScottCross_8 @ryancduff @GinaACleveland My church is following

@TheMuppetPastor @ScottCross_8 @ryancduff @GinaACleveland My church is following the Biblical instruction. That instruction doesn’t forbid godly women from teaching truth, leading or pastoral ministry

@TheMuppetPastor @ScottCross_8 @GinaACleveland Are women supposed to submit to n

@TheMuppetPastor @ScottCross_8 @GinaACleveland Are women supposed to submit to not taking leadership roles in church? Are women supposed to submit to male only pastors (since there are no female past

@TheMuppetPastor @ScottCross_8 @GinaACleveland The complementarian argument is t

@TheMuppetPastor @ScottCross_8 @GinaACleveland The complementarian argument is that because of biological differences, women are to submit to men (not mutually) and are not to hold leadership roles. T

@ymmotrojam Where is there a general principle in the law that women must submit

@ymmotrojam Where is there a general principle in the law that women must submit (separately from men) when in a gathering?

@biblemarriages @kgaugelo_N @SupermomShayla If that was the case, polygamy would be encouraged in the New Testament. Rather, it is clearly not encouraged. Monogomy is a requirement for leaders. And for all, in the context of asceticism and the probl...

@biblemarriages @kgaugelo_N @SupermomShayla If that was the case, polygamy would be encouraged in the New Testament. Rather, it is clearly not encouraged. Monogomy is a requirement for leaders. And f

@ymmotrojam Let’s remind ourselves about the oral traditions of the Jewish leaders. “And He said to them, ‘Rightly did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: “This people honors Me with their lips, But their heart is far away from Me. ...

@ymmotrojam Let’s remind ourselves about the oral traditions of the Jewish leaders. “And He said to them, ‘Rightly did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: “This people honors Me with

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-23

@biblemarriages Notice also that Sarah called Abraham lord, but God did not make Abraham lord over her. She respected him. She was not in servitude. It was always her choice. Recall there is also a time when God tell’s Abraham to obey Sarah: “But ...

@biblemarriages Notice also that Sarah called Abraham lord, but God did not make Abraham lord over her. She respected him. She was not in servitude. It was always her choice. Recall there is also a

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-23

@kgaugelo_N @SupermomShayla God tolerated polygamy in the Old Testament. The clear ideal is monogamy. Polygamy creates problems and marriage to one spouse is hard enough without competition and feeling like your husband has split affections and perha...

@kgaugelo_N @SupermomShayla God tolerated polygamy in the Old Testament. The clear ideal is monogamy. Polygamy creates problems and marriage to one spouse is hard enough without competition and feelin