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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-19

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Yeah, I don’t agree with Terran here. I don’t thin

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Yeah, I don’t agree with Terran here. I don’t think Paul is drawing on the meaning to dominate. I don’t see how Eve was dominating Adam in Eden.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-19

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii We also cannot constrain Paul’s meaning because we found a couple of texts that used it differently. Ultimately how Paul is using the word is dependent on the context, and Paul uses Adam and Eve and the deception in the ...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii We also cannot constrain Paul’s meaning because we found a couple of texts that used it differently. Ultimately how Paul is using the word is dependent on the context, an

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-09

@MargMowczko @KaeleyT But that use by Paul is genius *because* of the ties to Ev

@MargMowczko @KaeleyT But that use by Paul is genius *because* of the ties to Eve—it links the specific woman in Ephesus prototypically with Eve in a lightly veiled manner. We need only to consider wh

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-08

Eve and Adam were both given rule over the earth. Her authority to judge and rul

Eve and Adam were both given rule over the earth. Her authority to judge and rule was always intact. So why believe women are barred from speaking or teaching? She was already empowered by God to repr

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-08

@MargMowczko @KaeleyT For sure people have had—and continue to have—faulty views

@MargMowczko @KaeleyT For sure people have had—and continue to have—faulty views about Adam and Eve. Yet Paul’s intent doesn’t appear to be to address specific false teachings so much as to encourage

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-08

@MargMowczko @KaeleyT Paul’s intent in this letter is to encourage and instruct Timothy in stopping false teachers. His noting of how he was ignorant in 1Ti 1:13 and how Hymanaeus and Alexander whom he names blaspheme with knowledge in 1Ti 1:19-20 su...

@MargMowczko @KaeleyT Paul’s intent in this letter is to encourage and instruct Timothy in stopping false teachers. His noting of how he was ignorant in 1Ti 1:13 and how Hymanaeus and Alexander whom h

1Ti 1:13 1Ti 1:19-20 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-06

@Whitehorse1255 Also, don’t you believe that Adam had authority over Eve before

@Whitehorse1255 Also, don’t you believe that Adam had authority over Eve before the fall when creation was still good and not cursed?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-06

@garlicmofongo He seems to see both Adam and Eve as having a gendered rebellion to God in the fall. I don’t think I’ve heard that take before. Paul frames it as one being deceived and the other not with the reason being the time sequence of creation...

@garlicmofongo He seems to see both Adam and Eve as having a gendered rebellion to God in the fall. I don’t think I’ve heard that take before. Paul frames it as one being deceived and the other not w

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-02

@Unashamed_Chuck @RushiXmakima Yes, this has to do with the time sequence order of creation, not authority order. And the time sequence connects with deception. Ask yourself, how was it that Eve was deceived but Adam wasn’t when they both knew the co...

@Unashamed_Chuck @RushiXmakima Yes, this has to do with the time sequence order of creation, not authority order. And the time sequence connects with deception. Ask yourself, how was it that Eve was d

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-02

@Unashamed_Chuck I believe that Paul’s use of the Greek word kephale is not about authority or leadership but has to do with the source relationship between the husband and the wife coming from Eden where Eve was made from and for Adam. Both were com...

@Unashamed_Chuck I believe that Paul’s use of the Greek word kephale is not about authority or leadership but has to do with the source relationship between the husband and the wife coming from Eden w

Ge 1:28 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-20

@Trentofthenorth @Crystalisives Eve helping means Adam is the one with the need

@Trentofthenorth @Crystalisives Eve helping means Adam is the one with the need and Eve is the provider. God is also said to be our helper but no one thinks that this makes man the authority over God.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-20

@ReformaBro @JoInAthensGa @smugbuster88 @BenZeisloft Paul said that deception has to do with the time sequence in the creation order. Adam was not deceived because he was the ruler of Eve. Adam experiences God’s creative acts including the making of ...

@ReformaBro @JoInAthensGa @smugbuster88 @BenZeisloft Paul said that deception has to do with the time sequence in the creation order. Adam was not deceived because he was the ruler of Eve. Adam experi

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-20

@B_______Q_____ @WrigsFL2 @BenZeisloft Paul uses Eve as a prototype of this situ

@B_______Q_____ @WrigsFL2 @BenZeisloft Paul uses Eve as a prototype of this situation in Ephesus. Eve was deceived and not Adam, this being because of the time sequence order of creation. https://t.co

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-19

@smugbuster88 @BenZeisloft Both Adam and Eve were commanded using an imperative to rule in Ge 1:28. Both women and men are commanded to make disciples by Jesus' own authority in Mat 28:18-20. To refuse to allow them simply because they are women is...

@smugbuster88 @BenZeisloft Both Adam and Eve were commanded using an imperative to rule in Ge 1:28. Both women and men are commanded to make disciples by Jesus' own authority in Mat 28:18-20. To ref

Ge 1:28 Mat 28:18-20 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-19

@AVER735 @MikeWingerii Yes, responsibility is key. Adam was responsible because God allowed him to experience things about Him that Eve didn’t observe. He wasn’t deceived and therefore should have helped Eve but instead he remained silent. Authority...

@AVER735 @MikeWingerii Yes, responsibility is key. Adam was responsible because God allowed him to experience things about Him that Eve didn’t observe. He wasn’t deceived and therefore should have hel

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-18

@AVER735 Gen 4:7 has nothing to do with Eve and is a completely different context. Song of Solomon 7:10 is the relevant sense: “I am my beloved’s, and his desire is for me.” So you agree that the ground is cursed, not Adam or Eve? God never comman...

@AVER735 Gen 4:7 has nothing to do with Eve and is a completely different context. Song of Solomon 7:10 is the relevant sense: “I am my beloved’s, and his desire is for me.” So you agree that the gr

Gen 4:7 Solomon 7:10 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-18

@ronhenzel You are saying that NOTHING is cursed that didn’t sin, suggesting tha

@ronhenzel You are saying that NOTHING is cursed that didn’t sin, suggesting that it was Adam’s curse upon the earth. But God said that the earth was cursed because of Adam so the earth was indeed cur

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-18

@LuckyDuck2121 @Crystalisives Adam was literally the first man created and from

@LuckyDuck2121 @Crystalisives Adam was literally the first man created and from whom Eve was made; he’s like the headwaters or source of the human stream. Head does not mean authority over as we assum

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-18

@DST_QA @Robert_S_Morley The desire for her husband followed the statement of her toil in childbearing and increased conception rate. So despite the painful toil, she wouldn’t separate from Adam but would desire him. The same word is used in Song of ...

@DST_QA @Robert_S_Morley The desire for her husband followed the statement of her toil in childbearing and increased conception rate. So despite the painful toil, she wouldn’t separate from Adam but w

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-17

Yikes! Gen 3 doesn’t curse the man and woman; it curses the serpent and the ground. The woman’s increased toil in childbirth and her desire for her husband suggest a continued affection and bond to him, not dominance. Adam’s blaming Eve is the reas...

Yikes! Gen 3 doesn’t curse the man and woman; it curses the serpent and the ground. The woman’s increased toil in childbirth and her desire for her husband suggest a continued affection and bond to

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-15

@DST_QA @Robert_S_Morley My understanding of Adam’s expulsion is not only consistent with the text in Ge 3:22-24 but with the constant referral to “one man” by Paul in Ro 5:12,18-19; 1Co 15:21-22. The idea of responsibility because of some position o...

@DST_QA @Robert_S_Morley My understanding of Adam’s expulsion is not only consistent with the text in Ge 3:22-24 but with the constant referral to “one man” by Paul in Ro 5:12,18-19; 1Co 15:21-22. The

Ge 3:22-24 Ro 5:12 1Co 15:21-22 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-15

@DST_QA That’s not what was going on here. The difference is in Adam’s sin not h

@DST_QA That’s not what was going on here. The difference is in Adam’s sin not his highest authority. https://t.co/RM6fP7FcJF

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-15

@DST_QA Where does scripture say Adam is the “representative head” of humanity?

@DST_QA Where does scripture say Adam is the “representative head” of humanity?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-15

Why is it becoming “Tier 1” (primary)? Because he believes it is an attack on t

Why is it becoming “Tier 1” (primary)? Because he believes it is an attack on the created order. But what is the created order? It is God creating Adam in time sequence before Eve. How does time s

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-14

@BeardedAcctant @SDungersheim @RuthAmyAllan What created order? You mean the time sequence order of creation? We all agree to that. But there is no hierarchy required or authority implied by a time sequence. Adam had more responsibility because he w...

@BeardedAcctant @SDungersheim @RuthAmyAllan What created order? You mean the time sequence order of creation? We all agree to that. But there is no hierarchy required or authority implied by a time se

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-12

@Theo_Chilton That verse is: - not a curse - God speaking to Eve (not Adam) - stating that the man ruling the woman is not in the imperative (not a command) - a prophecy that despite her toil in childbearing, she will still desire her husband (want t...

@Theo_Chilton That verse is: - not a curse - God speaking to Eve (not Adam) - stating that the man ruling the woman is not in the imperative (not a command) - a prophecy that despite her toil in child

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-10

@riemersonck @VCITW There was no such hierarchy at creation. Creating the man first does not confer authority over. Authority must be given as John the Baptist declares. When was Adam given authority over Eve? "John answered, 'A person cannot receiv...

@riemersonck @VCITW There was no such hierarchy at creation. Creating the man first does not confer authority over. Authority must be given as John the Baptist declares. When was Adam given authority

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-09

@Robert_S_Morley @Grump_Old_Man @ronhenzel @smashbaals “He will rule over you” isn’t a curse though. It’s a prophecy. God didn’t say, “I will make sure that he rules over you” nor did He say to Adam “you must rule over your wife” to show He gave Adam...

@Robert_S_Morley @Grump_Old_Man @ronhenzel @smashbaals “He will rule over you” isn’t a curse though. It’s a prophecy. God didn’t say, “I will make sure that he rules over you” nor did He say to Adam “

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-09

@jladamsbrown That’s right. And the Patriarchalists presumably don’t support sla

@jladamsbrown That’s right. And the Patriarchalists presumably don’t support slavery which the culture doesn’t support either. So there’s that too.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-06

@BahBahBased @zie95776 @MikeWingerii Paul didn’t write that American women were more easily deceived. He wrote that because of the time sequence between the first man and the first woman Adam wasn’t deceived but Eve was. Why? Because Adam witnessed G...

@BahBahBased @zie95776 @MikeWingerii Paul didn’t write that American women were more easily deceived. He wrote that because of the time sequence between the first man and the first woman Adam wasn’t d

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-06

@BahBahBased @zie95776 @MikeWingerii Because Paul is identifying a specific wife and husband which he is not naming because the wife is deceived and hasn’t yet been corrected. He is showing mercy just like how Paul was shown mercy. You only name the ...

@BahBahBased @zie95776 @MikeWingerii Because Paul is identifying a specific wife and husband which he is not naming because the wife is deceived and hasn’t yet been corrected. He is showing mercy just

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-06

@zie95776 @BahBahBased @MikeWingerii Being a female and a pastor does NOT violate scripture! And whether affirming churches are run by women or not is immaterial. You are just repeating the stuff you were told. 1Ti 2:12 says nothing about pastors, i...

@zie95776 @BahBahBased @MikeWingerii Being a female and a pastor does NOT violate scripture! And whether affirming churches are run by women or not is immaterial. You are just repeating the stuff you

1Ti 2:12 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-05

@CNistEnjoyer That passage says “a woman” and “a man,” connects them with another couple Adam and Eve, uses the article “the woman” in v14 as an anaphoric reference to identify “a woman” in v11-12 to be a particular woman and that woman will be saved...

@CNistEnjoyer That passage says “a woman” and “a man,” connects them with another couple Adam and Eve, uses the article “the woman” in v14 as an anaphoric reference to identify “a woman” in v11-12 to

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-05

@3GNRTX The word used in 1Ti 2:11-12 translated “a woman” can also be translated

@3GNRTX The word used in 1Ti 2:11-12 translated “a woman” can also be translated “a wife.” Since Paul is singling out a woman and a man and then tying these to Eve and Adam, it would seem he is referr

1Ti 2:11-12 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-05

@3GNRTX Paul only refers to the time sequence of creation in relation to deception. Adam was created first and saw God creating some animals and the garden plants and trees so he couldn’t be deceived to think that the fruit of a tree made from the sa...

@3GNRTX Paul only refers to the time sequence of creation in relation to deception. Adam was created first and saw God creating some animals and the garden plants and trees so he couldn’t be deceived

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-05

@3GNRTX Rather, it was Paul dealing with a specific wife who was in need of salv

@3GNRTX Rather, it was Paul dealing with a specific wife who was in need of salvation and giving the apple of false doctrine to her husband who was not deceived but silent and doing nothing—just like

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-05

@3GNRTX Where was a hierarchy of authority of the man over the woman established

@3GNRTX Where was a hierarchy of authority of the man over the woman established before the temptation? The claim is that God’s prophecy to Eve that Adam would rule over her is a result of the fall (

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-05

@StephenStaedtl1 @baste_goblin @DelaKram75 Excellent! Now we are back to scripture. Paul links Adam and Eve with the time sequence of creation and deception. Since Adam was created first and God created some animals and plants and trees in front of ...

@StephenStaedtl1 @baste_goblin @DelaKram75 Excellent! Now we are back to scripture. Paul links Adam and Eve with the time sequence of creation and deception. Since Adam was created first and God crea

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-31

@LogicSaysBurn @KylePierce96 I’m not sure how you get pastoral role for Adam. And it has nothing to do with being older (they were created on the same day)—it’s simply that God have Adam experiences to prepare him for Eve which she didn’t get and the...

@LogicSaysBurn @KylePierce96 I’m not sure how you get pastoral role for Adam. And it has nothing to do with being older (they were created on the same day)—it’s simply that God have Adam experiences t

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-30

@Trentofthenorth @kdclaunch The command was first given to Adam, then later to both Adam and Eve (Eve’s quoting God has Him speaking to plural persons). Adam called her “woman” or “Isha” as she came out of “Ish”—it’s a functional association and has...

@Trentofthenorth @kdclaunch The command was first given to Adam, then later to both Adam and Eve (Eve’s quoting God has Him speaking to plural persons). Adam called her “woman” or “Isha” as she came

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-30

@LogicSaysBurn Ok, glad you got that one right. Jesus submitted himself to his parents as a child, but when he was ministering and his mother was trying to extract Him, He didn’t submit. If Adam wasn’t a child (he was not even 1 day old), then neith...

@LogicSaysBurn Ok, glad you got that one right. Jesus submitted himself to his parents as a child, but when he was ministering and his mother was trying to extract Him, He didn’t submit. If Adam wasn

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-30

@coramdeo1 God deals with the man first—why? Why does God not ask Eve why she di

@coramdeo1 God deals with the man first—why? Why does God not ask Eve why she didn’t submit to Adam’s rule? Why does this have anything to do with deception when it is really all about not following G

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-30

The serpent approaches the woman as she can be deceived. There is no evidence that anyone present is aware of any gender-based hierarchy. The serpent doesn’t say anything about being liberated from Adam’s authority. Adam is also right beside Eve li...

The serpent approaches the woman as she can be deceived. There is no evidence that anyone present is aware of any gender-based hierarchy. The serpent doesn’t say anything about being liberated from A

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-30

This is a misreading of 1Ti 2:13-14—Paul is using Adam and Eve as prototypes of a specific couple in Ephesus. Why? Because the woman was ignorant and deceived and as Paul outlined in 1Ti 1, those who are ignorant receive mercy meaning not naming them...

This is a misreading of 1Ti 2:13-14—Paul is using Adam and Eve as prototypes of a specific couple in Ephesus. Why? Because the woman was ignorant and deceived and as Paul outlined in 1Ti 1, those who

1Ti 2:13-14 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-30

While it is true that mankind was given authority over the rest of creation, the woman was uniquely created from Adam’s flesh and bone whereas the other animals were individually created from the dust. This shows there is no hierarchy between the ma...

While it is true that mankind was given authority over the rest of creation, the woman was uniquely created from Adam’s flesh and bone whereas the other animals were individually created from the dust

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-30

The second mistake is missing that Paul is referring to the time sequence of creation not gender hierarchy. Since Adam was created first and observed God creating he was prepared for the temptation of the serpent and could not be deceived. Eve was c...

The second mistake is missing that Paul is referring to the time sequence of creation not gender hierarchy. Since Adam was created first and observed God creating he was prepared for the temptation o

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-30

@EkIesou @smashbaals It is correct to say that ‘a woman’ can either refer to a specific woman/wife or a generic woman/wife. The way we determine which it is is by the context. Paul’s reference to Adam and Eve as a prototypical couple and the “She…the...

@EkIesou @smashbaals It is correct to say that ‘a woman’ can either refer to a specific woman/wife or a generic woman/wife. The way we determine which it is is by the context. Paul’s reference to Adam

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-29

@Clem65Clemons You have a Bible; why don’t you let God’s Word correct you? Justification of life to “all” mankind. So just as Adam’s sin resulted in all people being condemned to die, so also Jesus’ one act was indiscriminate. Clearly, to be saved ...

@Clem65Clemons You have a Bible; why don’t you let God’s Word correct you? Justification of life to “all” mankind. So just as Adam’s sin resulted in all people being condemned to die, so also Jesus’

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-23

@rofbethany @DefendTheSheep However, head does not mean master or commander, but source or origin. Adam’s flesh and bone is the origin or source of Eve. Jesus’ flesh and blood is the origin or source of life of the church. Take the following from a ...

@rofbethany @DefendTheSheep However, head does not mean master or commander, but source or origin. Adam’s flesh and bone is the origin or source of Eve. Jesus’ flesh and blood is the origin or source

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-22

@KillmanBuck @JoInAthensGa @Eric_Conn The authority to rule over creation was given by God to both the man and the woman in Ge 1:28. Ge 3:16 is God speaking to Eve about what will happen not God commanding Adam to rule over his wife. The idea of male...

@KillmanBuck @JoInAthensGa @Eric_Conn The authority to rule over creation was given by God to both the man and the woman in Ge 1:28. Ge 3:16 is God speaking to Eve about what will happen not God comma

Ge 1:28 Ge 3:16 debate
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