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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-24

@ronhenzel @AleahPursley As for 1Cor 11:19, yes there were factions in Corinth, and their rightness or wrongness is not asserted merely because they had differences of opinions. Paul was clear that dividing themselves by associating with a particular...

@ronhenzel @AleahPursley As for 1Cor 11:19, yes there were factions in Corinth, and their rightness or wrongness is not asserted merely because they had differences of opinions. Paul was clear that di

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-02

@Unashamed_Chuck That’s right—not all are teachers. But we are told to earnestly desire the greater gifts. "Now you are Christ’s body, and individually parts of it. And God has appointed in the church, first apostles, second prophets, third teache...

@Unashamed_Chuck That’s right—not *all* are teachers. But we are told to earnestly desire the greater gifts. "Now you are Christ’s body, and individually parts of it. And God has appointed in the chu

@ronhenzel @AleahPursley As for 1Cor 11:19, yes there were factions in Corinth, and their rightness or wrongness is not asserted merely because they had differences of opinions. Paul was clear that dividing themselves by associating with a particular...

@Unashamed_Chuck That’s right—not *all* are teachers. But we are told to earnestly desire the greater gifts. "Now you are Christ’s body, and individually parts of it. And God has appointed in the church, first apostles, second prophets, third teache...

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii Tom, so Jesus words only lasted for a very short time? Although He already had apostles he didn’t mention them or leadership of any kind, so his words were merely a suggestion ...

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeW

@ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals You don’t see this as a command from Paul? Why

@SKokenos @smashbaals Jesus didn’t choose any Gentile apostles either. Matt 28:18-20 tells them to make disciples of all nations “teaching them to follow all that I commanded you”—so if Jesus commanded his apostles to go and preach then those whom t...

@UndeadOrlan Marriage is not necessary; Jesus wasn't married and the apostle Pau

@TSubasLawVX @squishy203 What about the apostles?

@GlennDavies @SwordMasterPub Hi Glenn. Indeed the 12 apostles are all Jewish males. They were appointed before the church. And description is not a prescription as Jesus may have had some symbolic reason for picking just 12 and all males. In Revelati...

@SwordMasterPub It shows that an apostle can also be an elder/overseer/pastor.

@peace_got @JollyStine @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Paul it seems identifies himself all the time. Maybe it’s because people were questioning his claim to be an apostle and also because people were impersonating him. The Heb...

@Torncurtainorg @theologicaljoe @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii You are attempting to draw a prohibition from a "let's see if we can find a single woman preacher in the NT"⎯ you cannot take narrative or description and form prohibition from that. We don't ha...

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Timothy and Titus say essentially the same thing. Who wrote Ruth? Who wrote Esther? Who wrote Hebrews? Deborah was a judge and prophet. Junia was an ordinary (not foundational) apostle. No one is saying that ...

@Crystalisives @MichaelBerg888 Jesus didn't pick people to be sure they would be respected. He picked a tax collector! lol. Jesus does things for symbolic reasons. There are 12 sons of Jacob and so there are 12 apostles = 24 elders in Revelation. Th...

@deadtosin610 @JollyStine For example, Paul says stuff like this in reference to the apostles: Gal 2:6: “But from those who seemed to be something—*whatever they were, it makes no difference to me;* God shows personal favoritism to no man—for those ...

@deadtosin610 @JollyStine Since when does Paul care so much what the other apost

@JollyStine @deadtosin610 It seems Priscilla and Aquila functioned as apostles t

@deadtosin610 @JollyStine No women priests? That was in the Old Testament. Only

@deadtosin610 @will_servant Was Paul⎯an overseer and apostle⎯the husband of one

@ThomasPurell @MikeWingerii @sailemptyskies I’m also not ignoring apostolic teac

@Carol52538896 @Revelation_14_7 The Apostle Paul didn’t have it wrong. I’m argui

@frankly_will @LutheranLifter It was the Apostle Paul in his personal letter addressed to Timothy urging him to remain in Ephesus so that he could instruct "certain people" to not teach "strange doctrines" (1Ti 1:3). He wrote so that Timothy would "k...

@MartinMarkLuth1 @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn Name me one Gentile that Jesus orda

@LynnCDell2 @ronhenzel No person whether male or female is considered one of the 12 foundational Apostles upon which the church is built. Apostles after the 12 were those sent out to plant churches like Barnabas. An elder is just a deacon who serve...

@LynnCDell2 @ronhenzel Whatever the case, if the teaching is Biblical, then all⎯including the men, including the apostles⎯all must submit. If it unbiblical, then no matter what authority the person thinks they have, you are not required to submit (ie...

@ronhenzel So you said “So, since I’m debating it further, I’m obviously not treating it as a settled issue.” Seems you meant you are open to being wrong about Junia (could be either way though you think you have big guns behind your position that s...

@LynnCDell2 @ronhenzel There we go again—judicial authority. This is all about authority of one gender over the others or hierarchy of authority within the church which is what Jesus spoke against clearly to his apostles. And curiously you say that w...

@LynnCDell2 @ronhenzel Jesus also came as a Jew. All His apostles were Jewish. Yet we don’t have only Jewish male pastors and elders. Remember how they were confused on that in the early church too and how God had to show them that the Gentiles were ...

@ronhenzel So the 12 apostles think these two are really great and Paul’s pointing this out to lend credence to them because his opinion is not important? His appeal isn’t to their work or ministry but how well a select 12 think of them? It would b...

@ronhenzel The other apostles?

@ronhenzel Well, they probably should. They are complementarians after all and a

@ronhenzel You are right, it doesn't settle the argument. We need context and ev

@ronhenzel It's only ambiguous if you ignore the texts which provide evidence ab

@ronhenzel The question is why does Paul seem to care that certain ones are well

@ronhenzel Not surprising that the ESV has wording which doesn't acknowledge a w

@ronhenzel No, I'm saying that it is not the habit of Paul to elevate the opinio

@ronhenzel However, among clarifies that they are outstanding among the apostles

@ronhenzel This is because Paul is not elevating the opinion of the other apostl

@ronhenzel And just as I thought, David Garland actually argues against Ron's interpretation... “Paul’s ambivalence about the value of being esteemed by the apostles (Gal. 2:6), however, makes this interpretation of the phrase questionable.” ⎯Garlan...

@ronhenzel Is Paul in the habit of deferring to what the other apostles think of

@ronhenzel Precisely. Because it is how PAUL uses this phrasing, not how other Ancient Greek literature used it in other contexts and by other authors. Authorial intent and context are what we need to pay attention to. Was Paul deferring to how the...

@ronhenzel Yes, we don't know except to understand how Paul is using these words

@ronhenzel Since when does Paul defer to how the apostles esteem certain individuals? “But from those who were of considerable repute [ie. the other apostles] (what they were makes no difference to me; God shows no favoritism)—well, those who were o...

@jold_92 @BasedTorba @AmandaTylerBJC If you say that the fathers are the authori

@jold_92 @BasedTorba @AmandaTylerBJC What? We know from scripture that the church is built on the Old Testament and the testimony of the 12 apostles. Peter writes that Paul’s writing is scripture, so we have internal witness that they believed they w...

@jold_92 @BasedTorba @AmandaTylerBJC Ah, I see. Apostolic authority means the 12 apostles. Paul was chosen by Jesus, so we might argue 12+1 since the apostles chose someone to replace Judas. All that happened with the books included in the canon was...

@jold_92 @BasedTorba @AmandaTylerBJC How does sola scriptura mean the church fat

@btgolz @VoicesHead100 @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @michael_ronning It’s so clo

@JamesGi27467089 @ronhenzel I’ll grant you that the word used is aner (for men). It does seem that the apostles certainly thought that Judas’ replacement should be a man. Though it is a replacing of one of the original apostles which was before the c...

@ScottCross_8 Yes, another good point. Or given things started with the Jews (th

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@Unashamed_Chuck That’s right—not all are teachers. But we are told to earnestly desire the greater gifts. "Now you are Christ’s body, and individually parts of it. And God has appointed in the church, first apostles, second prophets, third teache...

@deadtosin610 @JollyStine For example, Paul says stuff like this in reference to the apostles: Gal 2:6: “But from those who seemed to be something—whatever they were, it makes no difference to me; God shows personal favoritism to no man—for those ...