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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-25

@pastherandie @JollyStine @ronhenzel @ewarner88 @ScottCross_8 @peace_got @ymmotr

@pastherandie @JollyStine @ronhenzel @ewarner88 @ScottCross_8 @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii I think God left the original statement out of the text to challenge Complementarians and Patriarchal

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-24

@TheMuppetPastor @ScottCross_8 @GinaACleveland The complementarian argument is t

@TheMuppetPastor @ScottCross_8 @GinaACleveland The complementarian argument is that because of biological differences, women are to submit to men (not mutually) and are not to hold leadership roles. T

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-22

@Joshbambino It's not about roles. Yes, both submit to Christ, and both subject themselves to each other in the fear of Christ (Eph 5:21). Egalitarians are simply reacting to the one-sided submission where complementarians and patriachalists infer do...

@Joshbambino It's not about roles. Yes, both submit to Christ, and both subject themselves to each other in the fear of Christ (Eph 5:21). Egalitarians are simply reacting to the one-sided submission

Eph 5:21 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-22

@StevenMKestner One reference I found interesting was in Katia Adams’ book “Equa

@StevenMKestner One reference I found interesting was in Katia Adams’ book “Equal” where she notes that significant complementarians don’t put much weight on 1 Tim 3 as requiring males only. https://t

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-21

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii Wow, Ron, you think everyone always agrees? So you agree with all complementarians? Mike Winger thinks women can be deacons. About 1Co 14:34-45. Philip Payne thinks these vers...

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii Wow, Ron, you think everyone always agrees? So you agree with all complementarians? Mike Winger thinks women can be deacons.

1Co 14:34-45 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-20

@corefaithbishop @johnmarkallen @MikeWingerii You are a great complementarian. K

@corefaithbishop @johnmarkallen @MikeWingerii You are a great complementarian. Keep it up! The Christ/church picture demonstrates mutual submission, not one person with the trump card over the other.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-20

@DustyMayT @Torncurtainorg @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii Mike says he is a soft complementarian but he doesn't like using the word soft as he thinks it does affect all of life even outside of church and family. However, he be...

@DustyMayT @Torncurtainorg @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii Mike says he is a soft complementarian but he doesn't like using the word soft as he thinks it does affect all of life

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-20

@DustyMayT @Torncurtainorg @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii Hard complementarians believe that a woman's place is the home only and that only the man is to work a job outside the home. If she is fortunate enough to have kids, sh...

@DustyMayT @Torncurtainorg @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii Hard complementarians believe that a woman's place is the home only and that only the man is to work a job outside the

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-20

@DustyMayT @Torncurtainorg @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingeri

@DustyMayT @Torncurtainorg @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii Fair. And women even in complementarian relationships still have some responsibility. This is not about overriding Go

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-20

@DustyMayT @Torncurtainorg @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii My wife was mostly complementarian as she didn't really want the responsibility. I enjoyed being a kid too and not having to be responsible for things, but we all need...

@DustyMayT @Torncurtainorg @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii My wife was mostly complementarian as she didn't really want the responsibility. I enjoyed being a kid too and not ha

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-20

@Torncurtainorg @DustyMayT @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii You are a very sincere guy and have a good heart. You make a great complementarian. No matter, you are still wrong. What would it take to convince you that the egalit...

@Torncurtainorg @DustyMayT @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii You are a very sincere guy and have a good heart. You make a great complementarian. No matter, you are still wrong.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-20

@Torncurtainorg @DustyMayT @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii Now you are saying senior leadership. That’s a nice change. My previous church did this too. It takes complementarians time to catch up and many believe that as long as...

@Torncurtainorg @DustyMayT @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii Now you are saying senior leadership. That’s a nice change. My previous church did this too. It takes complementarians

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-18

@SwordMasterPub I used to be complementarian so no, so no, I’m not reading my co

@SwordMasterPub I used to be complementarian so no, so no, I’m not reading my conclusion into the text. “Must be” is not in the imperative. Look again. Was Paul a husband?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-18

@MikeWingerii What is the difference in rate of divorce between Christians with

@MikeWingerii What is the difference in rate of divorce between Christians with a complementarian understanding and those with an Egalitarian one?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-17

@rofbethany @aaronogre @MikeWingerii Dishonest? The Bible lists Barak amongst th

@rofbethany @aaronogre @MikeWingerii Dishonest? The Bible lists Barak amongst those with great faith and never criticizes him. Why are complementarians criticizing him? Do they have an agenda?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-17

RT @joyklaprade: If you were once “complementarian” but no longer identify with

RT @joyklaprade: If you were once “complementarian” but no longer identify with that perspective, what prompted you to reevaluate your beli…

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-16

You'd expect Mike, as a complementarian, to prefer the father giving her away, r

You'd expect Mike, as a complementarian, to prefer the father giving her away, reflecting the father's authority. Surprisingly, he supports both parents giving her away, aiming not to treat the woman

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-15

@peace_got @ScottCross_8 @pastherandie @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii That is fine. You are ok with the complementarian view. Many are not, and since it is secondary, we should disagree amicably and peaceably on this issue⎯even if i...

@peace_got @ScottCross_8 @pastherandie @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii That is fine. You are ok with the complementarian view. Many are not, and since it is secondary, we should disag

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-15

@IceBucketsIBCM I'm not resisting God's word, though I do disagree with the complementarian version which has women being prohibited from places of leadership or "authoritative teaching" (whatever exactly that is...I think Mike thinks this is the tea...

@IceBucketsIBCM I'm not resisting God's word, though I do disagree with the complementarian version which has women being prohibited from places of leadership or "authoritative teaching" (whatever exa

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-14

@MikedAlamo @HannahJasmine13 @MikeWingerii No circles required, just toleration

@MikedAlamo @HannahJasmine13 @MikeWingerii No circles required, just toleration of secondary differences. I went to the same church as strong complementarians who understood this.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-14

@MikedAlamo @HannahJasmine13 @MikeWingerii I said living at peace. That doesn’t

@MikedAlamo @HannahJasmine13 @MikeWingerii I said living at peace. That doesn’t mean if asked I won’t share what I think these passages teach. And the same would be for you in my church. I’ve lived at

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-14

@MikedAlamo @HannahJasmine13 @MikeWingerii This is your interpretation on a deba

@MikedAlamo @HannahJasmine13 @MikeWingerii This is your interpretation on a debatable (secondary matter). This means if I go to a complementarian church, I live at peace with that. If I go to an egali

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-14

@MikedAlamo @MikeWingerii The WCF says nothing about women and leadership. I’d be willing to live at peace within the context of a complementarian church as I have for many years (which means I may share my views on certain passages but not in a divi...

@MikedAlamo @MikeWingerii The WCF says nothing about women and leadership. I’d be willing to live at peace within the context of a complementarian church as I have for many years (which means I may sh

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-14

@MikedAlamo @MikeWingerii No, I have absolutely no problem with God’s Word. And

@MikedAlamo @MikeWingerii No, I have absolutely no problem with God’s Word. And yes, I have a problem with complementarian readings of the relevant texts.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@peace_got @ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii If you disagree with Mike's call

@peace_got @ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii If you disagree with Mike's call to repent and loudly leave churches with female pastors (being divisive), then you can disagree with this while still r

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@peace_got @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Avoid Deborah because she shows a woman can be the voice of God to everyone in the theocracy of Israel before there was kings? Right….you are just pointing to how important sh...

@peace_got @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Avoid Deborah because she shows a woman can be the voice of God to everyone in the theocracy of Israel before there was kings?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@peace_got @MikeWingerii He is free to sincerely believe and practice complementarian views but not to divide egalitarian churches and treat them like they are in rebellion because they simply practice freedom. Read Romans 14. Mike said this is seco...

@peace_got @MikeWingerii He is free to sincerely believe and practice complementarian views but not to divide egalitarian churches and treat them like they are in rebellion because they simply practic

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-12

@peace_got @JoanBandy @CharmyRosewolf @pastherandie @MikeWingerii You sound like you are not really open on this issue at this time. It’s ok to go to a complementarian church and not worry about this issue. What I’d like to minimally accomplish here ...

@peace_got @JoanBandy @CharmyRosewolf @pastherandie @MikeWingerii You sound like you are not really open on this issue at this time. It’s ok to go to a complementarian church and not worry about this

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-12

@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii You seem like a good complementarian of

@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii You seem like a good complementarian of which I have many friends. Presuming of course you don’t believe I’m in unrepentant rebellion to God for believing the B

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-12

@TheInvisibleDan @MikeWingerii So then why does Mike want to leave an egalitaria

@TheInvisibleDan @MikeWingerii So then why does Mike want to leave an egalitarian church, loudly, making waves and taking people with him seeding a possible church split? He said this in reaction to a

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-12

@slow_down_Jess @MikeWingerii Your response is already a step ahead of most comp

@slow_down_Jess @MikeWingerii Your response is already a step ahead of most complementarians who don’t even fairly consider the opposing arguments.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-11

RT @ryanschatz: @zacharydparks @ReformedCaio @MikeWingerii I can show you videos

RT @ryanschatz: @zacharydparks @ReformedCaio @MikeWingerii I can show you videos showing that Mike was complementarian before he hardened h…

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-11

@B_Christs_Amb He wants all female pastors to repent and step down. He is treati

@B_Christs_Amb He wants all female pastors to repent and step down. He is treating this as a sin issue. Rather, he should be consistent with his statement that it is secondary and just prefer a comple

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-11

@avyargo @MikeWingerii No. You are 100% certain that complementarians should "lo

@avyargo @MikeWingerii No. You are 100% certain that complementarians should "loudly" cause waves and leave their egalitarian churches drawing people out with them, causing strife and division...all o

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-11

@4shaws1 @MikeWingerii Where does God command women to not pastor? I'm questioning your reading comprehension, not your primary beliefs. You can stay a complementarian⎯I'm fine with that, but if you think I'm sinning and want to follow Mike's advic...

@4shaws1 @MikeWingerii Where does God command women to not pastor? I'm questioning your reading comprehension, not your primary beliefs. You can stay a complementarian⎯I'm fine with that, but if you

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-11

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii I don't care about what the Western world thinks. I care about what Jesus thinks since the church belongs to him. Your view of church history is skewed. Even the Waldensiens which were pre-Luther had women elder...

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii I don't care about what the Western world thinks. I care about what Jesus thinks since the church belongs to him. Your view of church history is skewed. Even the

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-11

@zacharydparks @ReformedCaio @MikeWingerii I can show you videos showing that Mike was complementarian before he hardened his position. What he wasn't was dogmatic about it. He told people to draw their own conclusions and shared that his was complem...

@zacharydparks @ReformedCaio @MikeWingerii I can show you videos showing that Mike was complementarian before he hardened his position. What he wasn't was dogmatic about it. He told people to draw the

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-11

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Greek doesn't help? The NT wasn't written in English. About "complementarianism" being the dominant view until the middle of the 20th century...(chuckles)... The formalization of complementarian theology and ...

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Greek doesn't help? The NT wasn't written in English. About "complementarianism" being the dominant view until the middle of the 20th century...(chuckles)...

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-11

@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @914Ann @MikeWingerii A complementarian view that has males possessing complete authority over women⎯even if they are not supposed to abuse it⎯provides the fertile ground for abuse and denigrates the true equality of women. ...

@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @914Ann @MikeWingerii A complementarian view that has males possessing complete authority over women⎯even if they are not supposed to abuse it⎯provides the fertile ground for

Gen 1:28 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-11

@Torncurtainorg @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii I'm ok with you being convinced he is right. Go to your male-only led church. I've gone to complementarian churches for many years myself. Just don't treat those who believe the scripture prohibits women f...

@Torncurtainorg @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii I'm ok with you being convinced he is right. Go to your male-only led church. I've gone to complementarian churches for many years myself. Just don't treat

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-11

@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii You are not just reporting scripture, Jo

@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii You are not just reporting scripture, Joshua. You are parroting complementarian teaching. Thanks for clarifying that women are amazing. Your comment that we do

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-11

RT @ryanschatz: @ReformedRant @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii I think that there app

RT @ryanschatz: @ReformedRant @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii I think that there appears to be a translator in the brains of complementarians.…

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-11

@ReformedRant @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii I think that there appears to be a translator in the brains of complementarians. We say women are equal and the translator spits out “gay pastor.” Can you guys please stop doing that? The Bible does not com...

@ReformedRant @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii I think that there appears to be a translator in the brains of complementarians. We say women are equal and the translator spits out “gay pastor.” Can you gu

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-11

@Jet_Truth @MikeWingerii If a godly woman preaches the truth because she doesn't think that God forbids her, how is that pride? Why isn't a man preaching called pride then? You are presuming that the complementarian view that God has ordained a gend...

@Jet_Truth @MikeWingerii If a godly woman preaches the truth because she doesn't think that God forbids her, how is that pride? Why isn't a man preaching called pride then? You are presuming that the

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-11

@JeffreyTanCG @MikeWingerii I'm pretty sure he has been influenced by CBMW and other complementarian writings, but nevertheless, Mike himself states that this is a secondary issue. That means that taking either side should be permissible and we shoul...

@JeffreyTanCG @MikeWingerii I'm pretty sure he has been influenced by CBMW and other complementarian writings, but nevertheless, Mike himself states that this is a secondary issue. That means that tak

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-11

@NarnianAttorney You are presuming the complementarian reading of a few passages. There is no prohibition of female pastors for one, and 1Ti 2:12 is dealing with false teaching from a specific woman in Ephesus whom Paul was not naming to protect her;...

@NarnianAttorney You are presuming the complementarian reading of a few passages. There is no prohibition of female pastors for one, and 1Ti 2:12 is dealing with false teaching from a specific woman i

1Ti 2:12 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-11

@NarnianAttorney @MikeWingerii No, you aren't understanding. We disagree with complementarians, not with God. If I was in rebellion against God, I would repent. You are treating this issue as primary. And this is the problem I have with Mike's advic...

@NarnianAttorney @MikeWingerii No, you aren't understanding. We disagree with complementarians, not with God. If I was in rebellion against God, I would repent. You are treating this issue as primary

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-11

@mmmirele @MikeWingerii You are right that in the complementarian view, singleness seems to be completely overlooked or discouraged as though you are missing out on some spiritual benefit. If a woman needs a husband who is her spiritual authority, th...

@mmmirele @MikeWingerii You are right that in the complementarian view, singleness seems to be completely overlooked or discouraged as though you are missing out on some spiritual benefit. If a woman

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-11

@PensiveJustin @MikeWingerii One option is if it doesn't sit right with you and

@PensiveJustin @MikeWingerii One option is if it doesn't sit right with you and you are intolerant of secondary differences, then quietly and peaceably find a complementarian church.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-11

@DrTPeck1 1) Yes, it is secondary. I believe that both complementarians and egalitarians can find some compromise and work together. Certainly at the denomination level, allowing some churches to be full egalitarian, and then some churches may just n...

@DrTPeck1 1) Yes, it is secondary. I believe that both complementarians and egalitarians can find some compromise and work together. Certainly at the denomination level, allowing some churches to be f

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