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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-07

@ScottCross_8 @MegaChurchMouse @CatherineMcNiel @William_E_Wolfe Yes, women with

@ScottCross_8 @MegaChurchMouse @CatherineMcNiel @William_E_Wolfe Yes, women with the requisite character and ability to teach can serve as elders. The rest should copy their character and godliness.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-07

@JoshBuice @William_E_Wolfe Sorry, I missed the part where Paul says the elders

@JoshBuice @William_E_Wolfe Sorry, I missed the part where Paul says the elders at Ephesus are only men or lists them all so we know who they are and that there are no females among them.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-06

@roarofthefour @William_E_Wolfe Yes, Peter is writing that to the elders…which c

@roarofthefour @William_E_Wolfe Yes, Peter is writing that to the elders…which can be women. https://t.co/EBzpnqJmk0

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-06

@will_servant @William_E_Wolfe Yes, Jesus calls Peter to shepherd! Bravo! So here's the summary: 1⃣Poimen (shepherd/pastor): Peter, (Jesus) - Indirectly, all elders are to pastor 2⃣Presbyter (elder): Peter, John (self acclaimed) 3⃣Episkope (overseer...

@will_servant @William_E_Wolfe Yes, Jesus calls Peter to shepherd! Bravo! So here's the summary: 1⃣Poimen (shepherd/pastor): Peter, (Jesus) - Indirectly, all elders are to pastor 2⃣Presbyter (elder):

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-06

@JamesPelton18 @William_E_Wolfe This is a great passage. 1 Pet 5:1 says "I urge elders (presbyterous, Πρεσβυτέρους) among you, as your fellow elder (sympresbyteros, συμπρεσβύτερος)..." 1. Peter identifies elders (presbyters) as shepherds. 2. Peter ...

@JamesPelton18 @William_E_Wolfe This is a great passage. 1 Pet 5:1 says "I urge elders (presbyterous, Πρεσβυτέρους) among you, as your fellow elder (sympresbyteros, συμπρεσβύτερος)..." 1. Peter iden

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-01-16

@MaSoleil @TheMuppetPastor @DoctrineofTulip @autocorrect2_0 I agree with you, “faithful if married” is how I take it, but not sure what the Muppet thinks. Paul wasn’t married and most certainly also an elder so clearly being married or having childr...

@MaSoleil @TheMuppetPastor @DoctrineofTulip @autocorrect2_0 I agree with you, “faithful if married” is how I take it, but not sure what the Muppet thinks. Paul wasn’t married and most certainly also

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-01-07

@Generally_aware @RealStevenDC @ryancduff If you admit deacons, and deacons are

@Generally_aware @RealStevenDC @ryancduff If you admit deacons, and deacons are also described as “one wife husbands” (1 Tim 3:12), then why can’t they be elders?

1 Tim 3:12 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-01-06

@MaxLuder @MarkGrote @JollyStine You don't get requirements by inferring intention. Paul includes women in vs11. However, there's a big difference between including and forbidding. For example, there are only two people explicitly called elders in...

@MaxLuder @MarkGrote @JollyStine You don't get requirements by inferring intention. Paul includes women in vs11. However, there's a big difference between including and forbidding. For example, the

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-30

@KaeleyT @pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl Not having women as elders and counsellors is very unwise, though I understand it is done for theological reasons. However, they still serve in many ways. Using the gifts God gives them for wisdom, counsel and lea...

@KaeleyT @pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl Not having women as elders and counsellors is very unwise, though I understand it is done for theological reasons. However, they still serve in many ways. Using th

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-27

@MarkGrote Education plays a part as elders need to be able to teach and to correct those who contradict the Word, but none of the 12 disciples were educated. What was important was that they spent time with Jesus and were discipled. What changed i...

@MarkGrote Education plays a part as elders need to be able to teach and to correct those who contradict the Word, but none of the 12 disciples were educated. What was important was that they spent t

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-13

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT Well, I didn't say it should be done without telling the elders, but that the elders are not the church. It would be probably wise to tell the elders first. However, my prior church added the elders as the third a...

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT Well, I didn't say it should be done without telling the elders, but that the elders are not the church. It would be probably wise to tell the elders first. Howeve

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-12

@DeeGoingsGirl @pauldirks @KaeleyT Matt 18:15-20 and church discipline doesn’t even say “if he refuses to listen to the 1 or 2 (additional) witnesses, then take it to the elders”—no, it says “take it to the church” and that doesn’t mean to the “staff...

@DeeGoingsGirl @pauldirks @KaeleyT Matt 18:15-20 and church discipline doesn’t even say “if he refuses to listen to the 1 or 2 (additional) witnesses, then take it to the elders”—no, it says “take it

Matt 18:15-20 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-12

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT Ok, but the elders were not called to get him

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT Ok, but the elders were not called to get him to comply. Seems like Dee just waited until he finally did it (this specific time).

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-09

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT Yes, everyone who is able bodied should do something to contribute, though clearly there are obvious cases where this doesn't apply. But are you saying that if there is something she isn't keeping up with, your opt...

@pauldirks @DeeGoingsGirl @KaeleyT Yes, everyone who is able bodied should do something to contribute, though clearly there are obvious cases where this doesn't apply. But are you saying that if ther

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-06

RT @ryanschatz: @dougponder Short answer is no women elders? On the contrary, P

RT @ryanschatz: @dougponder Short answer is no women elders? On the contrary, Paul outlays **character** qualifications for leadership (1…

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-06

@dougponder Elders are not meant to “rule” because they are not kings over the c

@dougponder Elders are not meant to “rule” because they are not kings over the church. They are servants carrying out a task and given a responsibility. They “care” for the Lord’s church.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-06

@dougponder No one except Jesus is explicitly stated to be a pastor. Only John

@dougponder No one except Jesus is explicitly stated to be a pastor. Only John and Peter self-identify as elders. No one is explicitly identified as a bishop. How can you then argue that no women f

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-06

@dougponder They avoid the term shepherding? But shepherding isn’t in Titus 2:6-8 regarding men either. But what each is doing is shepherding. No doubt women have a role to shepherd younger women just as men should shepherd younger men. The latte...

@dougponder They avoid the term shepherding? But shepherding isn’t in Titus 2:6-8 regarding men either. But what each is doing is shepherding. No doubt women have a role to shepherd younger women j

Titus 2:6-8 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-06

@dougponder Short answer is no women elders? On the contrary, Paul outlays **ch

@dougponder Short answer is no women elders? On the contrary, Paul outlays **character** qualifications for leadership (1 Tim 3:1-13; Titus 1:5-9) ⎯ Paul doesn't forbid the single, the childless or w

1 Tim 3:1-13 Titus 1:5-9 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-29

@3HillsMinor @ymmotrojam @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Of course I have a pastor, it's not Winger but I do appreciate much of his work. There are female elders in my church (as you might expect). We are leaving the Reformed Church of Am...

@3HillsMinor @ymmotrojam @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Of course I have a pastor, it's not Winger but I do appreciate much of his work. There are female elders in my church (as you might

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-27

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam I already explained that I just find it ironic that if the position of elder must be male that the word itself is feminine. I didn't say that elders must be women. You are deceptive in how you are framing what I said and ...

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam I already explained that I just find it ironic that if the position of elder must be male that the word itself is feminine. I didn't say that elders must be women. You are

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-27

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam We don't interpret scripture by history, but by the text. - No-one is specifically identified as a pastor in the New Testament except Jesus. - Only two identify as elders (Peter and John), and they self identify. - No one i...

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam We don't interpret scripture by history, but by the text. - No-one is specifically identified as a pastor in the New Testament except Jesus. - Only two identify as elders (P

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-26

@ymmotrojam 1 Cor 14:34⎯doesn't say sin 1 Tim 2:11⎯doesn't say sin 1 Tim 3:15⎯Paul is referring to the qualifications for elders (shouldn't be drunkards, greedy for financial gain, must hold to the faith with a clear conscience, etc)⎯it also doesn't ...

@ymmotrojam 1 Cor 14:34⎯doesn't say sin 1 Tim 2:11⎯doesn't say sin 1 Tim 3:15⎯Paul is referring to the qualifications for elders (shouldn't be drunkards, greedy for financial gain, must hold to the fa

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-25

@Duke456521 @Ashwin_Vengayil @MikeWingerii @hashim_warren Here's the thing. In the New Testament: - No one is explicitly identified as an overseer - Aside from Jesus, there's only two who are explicitly identified as elders (Peter and John) - No one...

@Duke456521 @Ashwin_Vengayil @MikeWingerii @hashim_warren Here's the thing. In the New Testament: - No one is explicitly identified as an overseer - Aside from Jesus, there's only two who are explici

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-25

@NSanctification Ok, so women can teach and perform the same tasks as elders, just so long as they avoid doing it for 2 hours on Sunday morning between 10am and 12pm? So in their homes is fine? What do you mean by be in authority over a man? Does ...

@NSanctification Ok, so women can teach and perform the same tasks as elders, just so long as they avoid doing it for 2 hours on Sunday morning between 10am and 12pm? So in their homes is fine? What

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-25

@jdenehar We follow elders if they relate God's instructions accurately. So who we are following is actually God and His Word. Elders don't have a special teaching "authority" but a responsibility and a service to offer. About headship, take a loo...

@jdenehar We follow elders if they relate God's instructions accurately. So who we are following is actually God and His Word. Elders don't have a special teaching "authority" but a responsibility a

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-24

@graceforprize @sympatheticNPC The doctrine that came out of this was set out by the Apostles⎯James, Paul, Peter, but it was also agreed to by the WHOLE church. James was the leader in this judgment but in verse 22 it was the whole church which inclu...

@graceforprize @sympatheticNPC The doctrine that came out of this was set out by the Apostles⎯James, Paul, Peter, but it was also agreed to by the WHOLE church. James was the leader in this judgment b

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-24

@sympatheticNPC @graceforprize I think, however, that we still have teachers in the church in that elders must be able to teach. So the Holy Spirit does work through people. It's just that we shouldn't consider any elder or pastor as "the teacher" ...

@sympatheticNPC @graceforprize I think, however, that we still have teachers in the church in that elders must be able to teach. So the Holy Spirit does work through people. It's just that we should

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-23

@jdenehar Thanks for sharing your thoughts and chiming in. What are the specific husband/wife roles you are referring to? How do those apply to singles? what authority does your pastor and elders have? Can they tell you what kind of car you shoul...

@jdenehar Thanks for sharing your thoughts and chiming in. What are the specific husband/wife roles you are referring to? How do those apply to singles? what authority does your pastor and elders h

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-06

@eltrucker87 @wbigs2001 @smashbaals We were taking about elders/overseers/bishops/pastors not apostles. But you said Paul was an apostle and not an elder. I showed you scripture that an apostle can be both an apostle and an elder. The text literal...

@eltrucker87 @wbigs2001 @smashbaals We were taking about elders/overseers/bishops/pastors not apostles. But you said Paul was an apostle and not an elder. I showed you scripture that an apostle can

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-06

@eltrucker87 @wbigs2001 @smashbaals 1 Peter 5:1 (NASB 2020): “Therefore, I urge elders among you, as your fellow elder…” If Peter was both an apostle and elder, then we have a documented case of one being both. Paul was very obviously an overseer o...

@eltrucker87 @wbigs2001 @smashbaals 1 Peter 5:1 (NASB 2020): “Therefore, I urge elders among you, as your fellow elder…” If Peter was both an apostle and elder, then we have a documented case of one

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-06

@m_james76997 @wbigs2001 @smashbaals It's a great question. Maybe the next question you ought to ask is why He only chose Jews as apostles. Are we only to have Jewish pastors and elders? What do you mean by "How does it work if she's married"? It...

@m_james76997 @wbigs2001 @smashbaals It's a great question. Maybe the next question you ought to ask is why He only chose Jews as apostles. Are we only to have Jewish pastors and elders? What do yo

Ephesians 5:21 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-03

@Mosleya62Mosley @dannolane @Rach4Patriarchy Usually leaders are those who serve all and lead by example. They are mature, lead exemplary lives, are humble, Biblically faithful, and elders/overseers/pastors must be able to teach and correct false te...

@Mosleya62Mosley @dannolane @Rach4Patriarchy Usually leaders are those who serve all and lead by example. They are mature, lead exemplary lives, are humble, Biblically faithful, and elders/overseers/

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-10-06

@VinhasTJ @Brian_Sauve The qualifications for deacons is the same as elders asid

@VinhasTJ @Brian_Sauve The qualifications for deacons is the same as elders aside from being able to teach. So if you think women can be deacons then they can also be elders. https://t.co/EBzpnqJmk0

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-10-06

@Brian_Sauve The Bible doesn’t restrict elders to men just like it doesn’t requi

@Brian_Sauve The Bible doesn’t restrict elders to men just like it doesn’t require elders to be married and have multiple children. https://t.co/4tYGBalq90

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-29

Another thread on elders, overseers and pastors and whether gender is a factor.

Another thread on elders, overseers and pastors and whether gender is a factor. https://t.co/sy1fmBTHJq

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-29

@William_E_Wolfe Here’s a great thread on elders and whether there is a distinct

@William_E_Wolfe Here’s a great thread on elders and whether there is a distinction based on gender. https://t.co/sNDMY1pnpp

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-29

@William_E_Wolfe Please list the scriptures identifying all the men that were called pastors (ποιμήν) in the New Testament. (Hint: the only one specifically identified as a shepherd is Jesus). When you are done looking for that, look for all the me...

@William_E_Wolfe Please list the scriptures identifying all the men that were called pastors (ποιμήν) in the New Testament. (Hint: the only one specifically identified as a shepherd is Jesus). When

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-28

@sisi_siki_ Many feel that 1 Tim 3 and Titus 1 teach that elders or overseers must be men because it says “husband of one wife.” However, this is an idiom for faithful if married. It is clear Paul didn’t require marriage just as he didn’t require h...

@sisi_siki_ Many feel that 1 Tim 3 and Titus 1 teach that elders or overseers must be men because it says “husband of one wife.” However, this is an idiom for faithful if married. It is clear Paul d

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-26

@RobertMacD0nald @smashbaals Pastors and elders/bishop/overseer are synonymous. Deacons are leaders who are not required to teach. - Name one person in the NT church in scripture who was referred to as a shepherd. - Name one person in the NT church...

@RobertMacD0nald @smashbaals Pastors and elders/bishop/overseer are synonymous. Deacons are leaders who are not required to teach. - Name one person in the NT church in scripture who was referred to

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-24

@Based_Byzantine @HabitualLinest @Booksbyjess__ @smashbaals Bishops/elders/pasto

@Based_Byzantine @HabitualLinest @Booksbyjess__ @smashbaals Bishops/elders/pastors/overseers are all interchangeable in scripture. We use the term elders and pastors. So no and yes.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-23

@OkieLibSherry @nakedpastor In this particular instance scripture says 7 men were chosen and gives their names. However, we have little details on specific people who are called deacons or elders in the New Testament. Only two (Peter and John) self...

@OkieLibSherry @nakedpastor In this particular instance scripture says 7 men were chosen and gives their names. However, we have little details on specific people who are called deacons or elders in

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-22

@blackmamba_btc @AEQEA @BrotherBoaz @nakedpastor The same statement is made for overseers. Paul was most definitely an apostle and an overseer. He wrote letters, appointed elders, dealt with problems, traveled from church to church preaching and te...

@blackmamba_btc @AEQEA @BrotherBoaz @nakedpastor The same statement is made for overseers. Paul was most definitely an apostle and an overseer. He wrote letters, appointed elders, dealt with problem

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-18

@The_Lilion @HeidiSchlumpf I don’t know what this picture is referring to or pro

@The_Lilion @HeidiSchlumpf I don’t know what this picture is referring to or proving, but are you suggesting this is evidence for women deacons/elders/bishops—women leaders?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-18

@BrotherBoaz @ThomasReeseSJ @NCRonline @HeidiSchlumpf @dearmisskate Thanks for interacting and challenging me on this. The only person actually called a shepherd is Jesus and only two people self identify as elders: Peter and John. No one else is s...

@BrotherBoaz @ThomasReeseSJ @NCRonline @HeidiSchlumpf @dearmisskate Thanks for interacting and challenging me on this. The only person actually called a shepherd is Jesus and only two people self ide

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-17

@DeeGoingsGirl There’s only two who are listed as elders in the New Testament: P

@DeeGoingsGirl There’s only two who are listed as elders in the New Testament: Peter identifies as a fellow elder (1 Peter 5:1-5) and John (2 John, 3 John). If this is the case, then we are not given

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-12

@btgolz @aleciajonesnow @goteamcarr Really?! Only two people call themselves el

@btgolz @aleciajonesnow @goteamcarr Really?! Only two people call themselves elders…Peter and John. No one else is called an elder in the NT. And the only one called a shepherd? Jesus.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-12

@JohnAnders44464 @ortrails @goteamcarr I'm not sure what you meant by "qualified men...who would not have been Paul or Peter"? The qualifications for elders and deacons are the same aside from elders need to be able to teach. They are character qua...

@JohnAnders44464 @ortrails @goteamcarr I'm not sure what you meant by "qualified men...who would not have been Paul or Peter"? The qualifications for elders and deacons are the same aside from elders

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-11

@JohnAnders44464 @ortrails @goteamcarr That’s a reasonable question to ask. However, we have scant evidence for any specifically named elders. Peter calls himself a “fellow elder” in 1 Pet 5:1 and John refers to himself as “the elder” in 2 John and...

@JohnAnders44464 @ortrails @goteamcarr That’s a reasonable question to ask. However, we have scant evidence for any specifically named elders. Peter calls himself a “fellow elder” in 1 Pet 5:1 and J

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-10

@DickSaban1 @PubliusJosephus @njbemont Elders are required to be able to teach,

@DickSaban1 @PubliusJosephus @njbemont Elders are required to be able to teach, not deacons. Deacons are appointed for works of service.

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