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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-14

@peace_got @ScottCross_8 @pastherandie @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii Elders are servants not masters to be served. Qualifying is related to character and ability. The only difference between elder and deacon is the ability to teac...

@peace_got @ScottCross_8 @pastherandie @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii Elders are servants not masters to be served. Qualifying is related to character and ability. The only differen

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-14

@pastherandie @peace_got @bezalelplace @MikeWingerii I share a bit of my story i

@pastherandie @peace_got @bezalelplace @MikeWingerii I share a bit of my story in the following (if you are interested). Some had been wondering why I have been focusing on the egalitarian issue so mu

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-14

@bezalelplace @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii The thinking of these pastors is that there are other churches that believed like me. But I said I wanted to go to their church. They seemed faithful to the word and there are more things to consid...

@bezalelplace @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii The thinking of these pastors is that there are other churches that believed like me. But I said I wanted to go to their church. They seemed faithf

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-14

@peace_got @pastherandie @bezalelplace @MikeWingerii Ok, now I'm curious. I'd really like to understand your position. So only men can be pastors and leaders, so their is a hierarchy between leaders and congregants, right? Then only leaders can exer...

@peace_got @pastherandie @bezalelplace @MikeWingerii Ok, now I'm curious. I'd really like to understand your position. So only men can be pastors and leaders, so their is a hierarchy between leaders a

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-14

@pastherandie @peace_got @bezalelplace @MikeWingerii A third church I went to said the same thing. Loved the pastor and associate and the people. But he rather focused on Calvinism as I'm also not a Calvinist, so his concern was that I didn't share h...

@pastherandie @peace_got @bezalelplace @MikeWingerii A third church I went to said the same thing. Loved the pastor and associate and the people. But he rather focused on Calvinism as I'm also not a C

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-14

@pastherandie @peace_got @bezalelplace @MikeWingerii As I was looking for another church, I asked the pastor if he was ok with someone who is egalitarian. Would he allow me to lead in some capacity or would I never lead anything. He said the latter, ...

@pastherandie @peace_got @bezalelplace @MikeWingerii As I was looking for another church, I asked the pastor if he was ok with someone who is egalitarian. Would he allow me to lead in some capacity or

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-14

@peace_got @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @MikeWingerii Not true. My last church had a mix of comp and egal. They only allowed men as lead pastor. I didn't agree with it, but tolerated it as a secondary issue. Egal is NOT the central issue. If it bothered m...

@peace_got @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @MikeWingerii Not true. My last church had a mix of comp and egal. They only allowed men as lead pastor. I didn't agree with it, but tolerated it as a secondary issue

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-14

@peace_got @pastherandie @bezalelplace @MikeWingerii We also have a plurality of

@peace_got @pastherandie @bezalelplace @MikeWingerii We also have a plurality of elders who are all at the same level serving UNDERNEATH the body. They subject themselves and their desires to serve th

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-14

@peace_got @pastherandie @bezalelplace @MikeWingerii You don't believe in hierar

@peace_got @pastherandie @bezalelplace @MikeWingerii You don't believe in hierarchical authority? I thought you believed only men have authority in the church and only men can be leaders. Did I read

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@pastherandie @peace_got @bezalelplace @MikeWingerii Last summer, I brought up the issue of women in ministry with a pastor friend of mine. I was attending his church but wasn't a member at that time as I was having issues with my home church which h...

@pastherandie @peace_got @bezalelplace @MikeWingerii Last summer, I brought up the issue of women in ministry with a pastor friend of mine. I was attending his church but wasn't a member at that time

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@peace_got @pastherandie @bezalelplace @MikeWingerii Egalitarians don't believe

@peace_got @pastherandie @bezalelplace @MikeWingerii Egalitarians don't believe the Biblical model is hierarchical authority. You can't presume your model on us.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@peace_got @ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii If you disagree with Mike's call

@peace_got @ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii If you disagree with Mike's call to repent and loudly leave churches with female pastors (being divisive), then you can disagree with this while still r

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@peace_got @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @MikeWingerii No, you don't need to agree. But you should at least notice some things demonstrating that this isn't as cut and dried as you presume. If its not a cut and dried command prohibiting all women from teach...

@peace_got @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @MikeWingerii No, you don't need to agree. But you should at least notice some things demonstrating that this isn't as cut and dried as you presume. If its not a cut

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@peace_got @JollyStine @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @MikeWingerii You can't just keep restating like a dog with a bone. There is no imperative in there, Paul doesn't use the usual word for authority⎯in fact, its a word only used about 8 times in antiquity ...

@peace_got @JollyStine @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @MikeWingerii You can't just keep restating like a dog with a bone. There is no imperative in there, Paul doesn't use the usual word for authority⎯in fact

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@peace_got @JollyStine @LaMonsterMom @Robert_S_Morley @MargMowczko @CharmyRosewo

@peace_got @JollyStine @LaMonsterMom @Robert_S_Morley @MargMowczko @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @pastherandie @MikeWingerii If I can find the time, I'll be doing cliff notes with Egalitarian feedback an

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@peace_got @JollyStine @LaMonsterMom @Robert_S_Morley @MargMowczko @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Ok, let's say that you and your church only have men in leadership. Will that make you happy? Or do you have to squeeze all egal...

@peace_got @JollyStine @LaMonsterMom @Robert_S_Morley @MargMowczko @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Ok, let's say that you and your church only have men in leadership. Will that

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@peace_got @JollyStine @Robert_S_Morley @MargMowczko @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy

@peace_got @JollyStine @Robert_S_Morley @MargMowczko @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Also, there is no concept of head pastor in scripture. You made that one up too.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@peace_got @JollyStine @Robert_S_Morley @MargMowczko @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy

@peace_got @JollyStine @Robert_S_Morley @MargMowczko @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @pastherandie @MikeWingerii You are in agreement with Mike Winger that egalitarians should repent of their teaching and

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@peace_got @JollyStine @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @pastherandie @MikeWingerii I see. In the Talmud says that the testimony of a woman has very little acceptance. No wonder they’d pick Mordecai. Here’s a quote from the Talmud in Sota 20a: “Rabbi Eli...

@peace_got @JollyStine @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @pastherandie @MikeWingerii I see. In the Talmud says that the testimony of a woman has very little acceptance. No wonder they’d pick Mordecai. Here’

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@peace_got @JollyStine @Robert_S_Morley @MargMowczko @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @pastherandie @MikeWingerii The great commission doesn’t have the word “gospel” in it. Read it again. You believe women can make disciples of all nations (no restriction ...

@peace_got @JollyStine @Robert_S_Morley @MargMowczko @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @pastherandie @MikeWingerii The great commission doesn’t have the word “gospel” in it. Read it again. You believe women

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@peace_got @JollyStine @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Paul it seems identifies himself all the time. Maybe it’s because people were questioning his claim to be an apostle and also because people were impersonating him. The Heb...

@peace_got @JollyStine @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Paul it seems identifies himself all the time. Maybe it’s because people were questioning his claim to be an apostle and a

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@peace_got @pastherandie @bezalelplace @MikeWingerii You said she has authority

@peace_got @pastherandie @bezalelplace @MikeWingerii You said she has authority over men. That’s what she was responding to.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@peace_got @JollyStine @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Wh

@peace_got @JollyStine @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Who wrote Ruth? Esther? Hebrews?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@pastherandie @peace_got @bezalelplace @MikeWingerii Bizarre how she presumes he

@pastherandie @peace_got @bezalelplace @MikeWingerii Bizarre how she presumes her own view on you. Egalitarians don’t believe we take authority over each other. Bizarre…

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@peace_got @ScottCross_8 @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @pastherandie @MikeWingerii No, it’s not that because Deborah was the authority over the nation of Israel that women can be pastors but it demonstrates that being in authority over men as th...

@peace_got @ScottCross_8 @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @pastherandie @MikeWingerii No, it’s not that because Deborah was the authority over the nation of Israel that women can be pastors but it d

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@peace_got @ymmotrojam @JosiahHawthorne @ronhenzel @MikeWingerii Great so you ar

@peace_got @ymmotrojam @JosiahHawthorne @ronhenzel @MikeWingerii Great so you are egalitarian then? Or do you still believe your husband and pastor can arbitrarily “take authority” over you at will?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@peace_got @JosiahHawthorne @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @MikeWingerii So then Mike is

@peace_got @JosiahHawthorne @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @MikeWingerii So then Mike isn’t pastoring nearly 700,000 viewers?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii Not freedom to sin. There is nowhere where a

@ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii Not freedom to sin. There is nowhere where a godly woman teaching truth or pastoring is stated to be a sin. Making sin up is egregious! Stop that!

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@peace_got @ScottCross_8 @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @pastherandie @MikeW

@peace_got @ScottCross_8 @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Great. Me neither. It doesn’t contradict what Paul clearly means on the issue.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@peace_got @JosiahHawthorne @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @MikeWingerii Where is a godly woman forbidden from pastoring or teaching truth to others (inside or outside the church) including men? You literally are just making up rules because your bias is bli...

@peace_got @JosiahHawthorne @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @MikeWingerii Where is a godly woman forbidden from pastoring or teaching truth to others (inside or outside the church) including men? You literally

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@peace_got @ScottCross_8 @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @pastherandie @MikeW

@peace_got @ScottCross_8 @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @pastherandie @MikeWingerii The only thing being thrown away are the unscriptural teachings of people, not scripture. You appear unwilling t

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@peace_got @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @MikeWingerii I love the epistles! They are Go

@peace_got @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @MikeWingerii I love the epistles! They are God’s very words. Beth Moore is wrong on this point. In 2Ti 3:16, it says, "*All Scripture* is inspired by God and profit

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii Paul makes a very strong statement in 1Co 14:37 that if anyone disregards (to disregard v. — to refuse to acknowledge) the Lord’s commands as given by Paul in the beginning of ch14, then that person is ...

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii Paul makes a very strong statement in 1Co 14:37 that if anyone disregards (to disregard v. — to refuse to acknowledge) the Lord’s commands as given by P

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii Tom, Paul is speaking to those who are doing the forbidding. Paul gave many commands from the Lord in chapter 14. But those cannot be followed if women are forbidden from speaking. Those men who contin...

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii Tom, Paul is speaking to those who are doing the forbidding. Paul gave many commands from the Lord in chapter 14. But those cannot be followed if women

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@peace_got @JosiahHawthorne @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @MikeWingerii Because God did

@peace_got @JosiahHawthorne @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @MikeWingerii Because God didn’t forbid women to pastor. There’s no need to obey man made rules.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii Paul had to deal with people like you in Galatians. It is no different to suggest godly female pastors are in rebellion to God which clearly means they are unsaved than to suggest men needed to be circumcised to be...

@ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii Paul had to deal with people like you in Galatians. It is no different to suggest godly female pastors are in rebellion to God which clearly means they are unsaved

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@peace_got @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @MikeWingerii Female pastors are not expressly

@peace_got @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @MikeWingerii Female pastors are not expressly forbidden. You are making that up.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@peace_got @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @pastherandie @MikeWingerii So you

@peace_got @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @pastherandie @MikeWingerii So you agree? Maybe think of her as the Supreme Court of the land. Highest authority over God’s people.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@peace_got @ScottCross_8 @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @pastherandie @MikeW

@peace_got @ScottCross_8 @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @pastherandie @MikeWingerii You are completely making that up. Where does the Bible say that the men were weak? And even if God called wome

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@peace_got @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Avoid Deborah because she shows a woman can be the voice of God to everyone in the theocracy of Israel before there was kings? Right….you are just pointing to how important sh...

@peace_got @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Avoid Deborah because she shows a woman can be the voice of God to everyone in the theocracy of Israel before there was kings?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@peace_got @bezalelplace @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Mike Winger is the reason I

@peace_got @bezalelplace @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Mike Winger is the reason I got told I was NOT welcome back at a church I was attending where Mike Winger isn’t the pastor. This was even before Mi

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@peace_got @bezalelplace @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Attacked Mike Winger? Mike

@peace_got @bezalelplace @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Attacked Mike Winger? Mike is treating egalitarians as in sin and asking people to divide their churches. Pushing back is attack??

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@peace_got @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @pastherandie @MikeWingerii You are treating egalitarians as though they are teaching equity. We don’t think it’s about equal outcomes. We just don’t think it’s a sin that a woman can lead. Just need one ...

@peace_got @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @pastherandie @MikeWingerii You are treating egalitarians as though they are teaching equity. We don’t think it’s about equal outcomes. We just don’t thin

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@_enigmafic_ @deweese_abram @MikeWingerii Where did Abram go? Abram said if my calling goes against scripture than my calling isn’t from God. But what appears to be disobeying God could be what’s wrong… You honesty think it’s a sin for a godly woma...

@_enigmafic_ @deweese_abram @MikeWingerii Where did Abram go? Abram said if my calling goes against scripture than my calling isn’t from God. But what appears to be disobeying God could be what’s wro

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@pastherandie @bezalelplace @peace_got @MikeWingerii Here’s where Mike’s actions are particularly problematic. He is advocating for treating his egalitarian brothers and sisters as rebels against God. Is that not going to needlessly divide Jesus’ bod...

@pastherandie @bezalelplace @peace_got @MikeWingerii Here’s where Mike’s actions are particularly problematic. He is advocating for treating his egalitarian brothers and sisters as rebels against God.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@Emotionscoach At least I'm thankful his practice is more egalitarian. I just wi

@Emotionscoach At least I'm thankful his practice is more egalitarian. I just wish he wasn't so hostile to those who are theologically egalitarian.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@peace_got @MikeWingerii He is free to sincerely believe and practice complementarian views but not to divide egalitarian churches and treat them like they are in rebellion because they simply practice freedom. Read Romans 14. Mike said this is seco...

@peace_got @MikeWingerii He is free to sincerely believe and practice complementarian views but not to divide egalitarian churches and treat them like they are in rebellion because they simply practic

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@peace_got @JollyStine @JoanBandy @CharmyRosewolf @pastherandie @MikeWingerii The only thing I’m questioning her on is the particulars of what she thinks the false teaching is and why. Everything else is pretty much what I believe as well and is taki...

@peace_got @JollyStine @JoanBandy @CharmyRosewolf @pastherandie @MikeWingerii The only thing I’m questioning her on is the particulars of what she thinks the false teaching is and why. Everything else

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@JollyStine @peace_got @JoanBandy @CharmyRosewolf @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Ye

@JollyStine @peace_got @JoanBandy @CharmyRosewolf @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Yes, I got that she alone was deceived. How was this causing division since the husband was silent (forcing Timothy to int

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@peace_got @pastherandie @JollyStine @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii I

@peace_got @pastherandie @JollyStine @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii I have sat under teachers for many years and never once thought that the preacher’s job was to take authority over me! I m

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