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@DirtBoyFarms @ruthmperry @iheartJ37 @harmonizedgrace If Biblical submission is service and service is submission, then how is it that all are not mutually submissive including husbands to wives in addition to wives to husbands? Do you believe the hu...

@DirtBoyFarms @ruthmperry @iheartJ37 @harmonizedgrace If Biblical submission is service and service is submission, then how is it that all are not mutually submissive including husbands to wives in ad

@ExtraSaltedNuts @Calvinator8000 @rightresponsem No, culture within Christian co

@ExtraSaltedNuts @Calvinator8000 @rightresponsem No, culture within Christian communities that isn’t always based on careful study of the Bible.

@Calvinator8000 @ExtraSaltedNuts @rightresponsem I’m egalitarian or a mutualist (probably a better term). God’s created order is the time sequence order of creating Adam then Eve from Adam (thus Adam is her ‘head’) which is the single example that se...

@Calvinator8000 @ExtraSaltedNuts @rightresponsem I’m egalitarian or a mutualist (probably a better term). God’s created order is the time sequence order of creating Adam then Eve from Adam (thus Adam

@Mongrel77 @rightresponsem It was practiced by the apostles. Does anything else

@Mongrel77 @rightresponsem It was practiced by the apostles. Does anything else matter?

@ExtraSaltedNuts @rightresponsem The wife is to submit out of love and respect f

@ExtraSaltedNuts @rightresponsem The wife is to submit out of love and respect for Christ. Just that the husband is to do the same as submission in Eph 5:21 is reciprocal.

Eph 5:21 debate

@ScarletNevermr @rightresponsem Far greater control. You said it yourself. So what is the far greater control the husband has over the wife? Can he publicly whip her for not meeting his demands? Can he put her in jail for burning his toast? What are ...

@ScarletNevermr @rightresponsem Far greater control. You said it yourself. So what is the far greater control the husband has over the wife? Can he publicly whip her for not meeting his demands? Can h

@ScarletNevermr @rightresponsem Hang on…so when an actual literal word for autho

@ScarletNevermr @rightresponsem Hang on…so when an actual literal word for authority is used it is mutual, but when an anatomical word is used now it is about hierarchy and one way authority? Puzzlin

RT @ryanschatz: @ScarletNevermr @rightresponsem Excellent!! the single time that

RT @ryanschatz: @ScarletNevermr @rightresponsem Excellent!! the single time that the word authority is used for a husband over his wife it…

@ScarletNevermr @rightresponsem Excellent!! the single time that the word author

@ScarletNevermr @rightresponsem Excellent!! the single time that the word authority is used for a husband over his wife it is also used for the wife over her husband! You are demonstrating mutual subj

1Co 14:34-35 1Ti 3:1-13 question

@JasonAlexa12387 @rightresponsem No, this is not true. (1) There are no male pronouns in 1Ti 3:1-13 for example. Why is that? (2) The requirements for deacons is the same as elders—still no “must be male” or “must not be female.” (3) 1Co 14:34-35 is ...

@JasonAlexa12387 @rightresponsem No, this is not true. (1) There are no male pronouns in 1Ti 3:1-13 for example. Why is that? (2) The requirements for deacons is the same as elders—still no “must be m

@ExtraSaltedNuts @rightresponsem Tell me this: where is any word for authority u

@ExtraSaltedNuts @rightresponsem Tell me this: where is any word for authority used for the husband over his wife? Or is it only the anatomical word for head which you interpret as meaning authority?

@ScarletNevermr @rightresponsem No, I’m dead serious. Please find where a word f

@ScarletNevermr @rightresponsem No, I’m dead serious. Please find where a word for authority is used and not just the word “head” which is presumed to mean authority.

@thatssocheeky Thanks for sharing your experience, Brandi! While it wasn’t a good one, it helps people to see and understand what you were thinking and how the things you believed either helped or didn’t help. There was one post where you said that t...

@thatssocheeky Thanks for sharing your experience, Brandi! While it wasn’t a good one, it helps people to see and understand what you were thinking and how the things you believed either helped or did

@ijac20 @RealDavidReece There's no male pronoun in 1Ti 3:4. It should read: "one

@ijac20 @RealDavidReece There's no male pronoun in 1Ti 3:4. It should read: "one who rules their own house well, having their children in submission with all reverence"⎯this requirement is not limited

1Ti 3:4 general

@ostrachan That Adam is the head of Eve is uncontested. What is contested is what is meant by that simple anatomical word. Does it mean 'authority of' or 'boss of' like we use it today? Or does it mean something like first or origin or source? I beli...

@ostrachan That Adam is the head of Eve is uncontested. What is contested is what is meant by that simple anatomical word. Does it mean 'authority of' or 'boss of' like we use it today? Or does it mea

@JasonAlexa12387 @rightresponsem I try not to take any non-biblical positions, b

@JasonAlexa12387 @rightresponsem I try not to take any non-biblical positions, but I'm certain I don't perfectly understand scripture. You are free to try to help me discover whatever non-biblical pos

@rightresponsem "Because the husband is the head..."⎯by that do you mean that he

@rightresponsem "Because the husband is the head..."⎯by that do you mean that he is the authority? Where does the Bible say that the husband is the authority over his wife?

@JasonAlexa12387 @rightresponsem You are right... let me rephrase: The true view

@JasonAlexa12387 @rightresponsem You are right... let me rephrase: The true view is no restrictions based on one’s gender and mutual submission within the entire body. ☺️

@rightresponsem @RealDavidReece I'm not embarrassed by the Bible either. Do you

@rightresponsem @RealDavidReece I'm not embarrassed by the Bible either. Do you like me too? ☺️ https://t.co/B3pAEVTX5i

@RealDavidReece 1Ti 3:4 speaks of "one who rules their own household well"⎯there are no male pronouns. The term proistamenon (προϊστάμενον) in 1Ti 3:4 comes from the Greek verb proistēmi (προΐστημι), which means “to manage,” “to lead,” “to preside o...

@RealDavidReece 1Ti 3:4 speaks of "one who rules their own household well"⎯there are no male pronouns. The term proistamenon (προϊστάμενον) in 1Ti 3:4 comes from the Greek verb proistēmi (προΐστημι),

1Ti 3:4 commentary

@RealDavidReece “The heart of her husband safely trusts her; so he will have no lack of gain. She does him good and not evil all the days of her life” (Prov 31:11-12) The same could be said that "the heart of his wife safely trusts him; so she will ...

@RealDavidReece “The heart of her husband safely trusts her; so he will have no lack of gain. She does him good and not evil all the days of her life” (Prov 31:11-12) The same could be said that "the

Prov 31:11-12 general

1Ti 5:13 Eph 5:25 Tit 2:4-5 debate

@RealDavidReece Next, Tit 2:4-5 calls wives to "love their husbands" showing the reciprocal of "husbands love your wives" (Eph 5:25). Also, "workers at home" not to restrict how they work but that they are not to be idle, gossips and busybodies (1Ti ...

@RealDavidReece Next, Tit 2:4-5 calls wives to "love their husbands" showing the reciprocal of "husbands love your wives" (Eph 5:25). Also, "workers at home" not to restrict how they work but that the

@RealDavidReece “But I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is the man, and the head of Christ is God” (1Co 11:3). Head is an anatomical term, not a synonym for authority. If it meant authority, why doesn’t Scri...

@RealDavidReece “But I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is the man, and the head of Christ is God” (1Co 11:3). Head is an anatomical term, not a synonym for

1Co 11:3 debate

@RealDavidReece "Wives, be subject to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord" (Col 3:18). The phrase “as is fitting in the Lord” reframes submission not as blind obedience but as a voluntary, Christlike humility grounded in love and respect. It re...

@RealDavidReece "Wives, be subject to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord" (Col 3:18). The phrase “as is fitting in the Lord” reframes submission not as blind obedience but as a voluntary, Chris

Col 3:18 debate

@RealDavidReece Ah @RealDavidReece, one can quote passages without their context, but can you explain them in context? Ok, let's start with Eph 5:22-23👇 1/ Paul deliberately used hypotassō (submission) for husbands & wives, not hypakouō (obedie...

@RealDavidReece Ah @RealDavidReece, one can quote passages without their context, but can you explain them in context? Ok, let's start with Eph 5:22-23👇 1/ Paul deliberately used hypotassō (submissi

Eph 5:22-23 debate

@King_Brody @pastherandie Brody, are you assuming ‘head’ (literally the top of the body—it’s not a complex word) means authority or commander? Where does this idea come from? Is it context? Why isn’t ‘authority’ or ‘commander’ ever used for Jesus ove...

@King_Brody @pastherandie Brody, are you assuming ‘head’ (literally the top of the body—it’s not a complex word) means authority or commander? Where does this idea come from? Is it context? Why isn’t

@rightresponsem Umm… civil magistrates are able to put people in jail and punish

@rightresponsem Umm… civil magistrates are able to put people in jail and punish them. So you think husbands are to have the power to punish or imprison their wives?

@rightresponsem The balanced view is no restrictions based on one’s gender and m

@rightresponsem The balanced view is no restrictions based on one’s gender and mutual submission within the entire body.

This article on whether the husband is to submit and whether Jesus submits ti Hi

This article on whether the husband is to submit and whether Jesus submits ti His church is well worth the read! https://t.co/Rgsy0eDeKv

With Christ, our service flows from love, not obligation. Paul’s challenge to wi

With Christ, our service flows from love, not obligation. Paul’s challenge to wives is to adopt this perspective—to willingly submit out of love, not fear or duty, just as they do for Christ. It’s abo

For wives treated as a subclass, like property or slaves, submission can feel li

For wives treated as a subclass, like property or slaves, submission can feel like mere duty. The idea is, “If you don’t do what you’re told, you’ll be punished.” But Jesus changes that. He makes us c

Actually, Paul’s statement is that a wife’s submission to her husband should mirror her submission to the Lord. That’s his argument—but it needs unpacking. The key issue arises when “hypotasso” is misunderstood to mean “obey” rather than “willingly s...

Actually, Paul’s statement is that a wife’s submission to her husband should mirror her submission to the Lord. That’s his argument—but it needs unpacking. The key issue arises when “hypotasso” is mis

@subq Paul kicked Hymenaeus out of the church, so your comment about "being frie

@subq Paul kicked Hymenaeus out of the church, so your comment about "being friends with full preterists" doesn't jive with Paul. I mean, I'm friends with LDS, etc., so maybe that's what you meant? Bu

RT @DeeGoingsGirl: Patriarchy silences our biblical one-another sensibilities. I

RT @DeeGoingsGirl: Patriarchy silences our biblical one-another sensibilities. It needs men and women to be dramatically different to justi…

@subq Are not Hymenaeus and Alexander full preterists and for this very reason k

@subq Are not Hymenaeus and Alexander full preterists and for this very reason kicked out of the church by Paul? In 2Ti 2:17-18, Paul specifically talks about Hymenaeus and Philetus, who taught that

2Ti 2:17-18 question

@DirtBoyFarms @iheartJ37 @harmonizedgrace You mean this person? Maybe you an answer the question. “how can hypotassō possibly convey one meaning for men & an entirely different one for women when Paul uses the term just 1x to address both in t...

@DirtBoyFarms @iheartJ37 @harmonizedgrace You mean this person? Maybe you an answer the question. “how can hypotassō possibly convey one meaning for men & an entirely different one for women wh

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@DirtBoyFarms @iheartJ37 @harmonizedgrace You are assuming that they misundersta

@DirtBoyFarms @iheartJ37 @harmonizedgrace You are assuming that they misunderstand Paul’s words and elevate them to be greater than Jesus’ words. Who is doing this?

@C_del_G @Rach4Patriarchy Right. So don’t submit like slaves (they were being treated like property or slaves), but submit out of love like you do towards Jesus. How is Christ the head of the church? Here’s how: He is the Saviour of the body. He i...

@C_del_G @Rach4Patriarchy Right. So don’t submit like slaves (they were being treated like property or slaves), but submit out of love like you do towards Jesus. How is Christ the head of the church?

@IagreeNdisagree @TomBuck Yes, and a husband will hypotasso his wife too. 😊

@MicheMoffatt @TomBuck Just remember that 'head' is not a hard word to translate. It is an anatomical word. How we understand it depends on the context and how it is used. Today, we use it typically of people to indicate who has authority. But is t...

@MicheMoffatt @TomBuck Just remember that 'head' is not a hard word to translate. It is an anatomical word. How we understand it depends on the context and how it is used. Today, we use it typically

@KaeleyT @pauldirks If you haven't seen it, I made a lengthy response to a threa

@KaeleyT @pauldirks If you haven't seen it, I made a lengthy response to a thread by a fellow complementarian. Here's the relevant post. https://t.co/xDXrHGghoa

@KaeleyT @pauldirks One would think that this is the truly complementarian scena

@KaeleyT @pauldirks One would think that this is the truly complementarian scenario. If each is incomplete without the other (as per the creation account), then together⎯presuming of course that both

RT @ryanschatz: @pauldirks @KaeleyT What if male leaders be male and female lead

RT @ryanschatz: @pauldirks @KaeleyT What if male leaders be male and female leaders be female and you have an all around well rounded minis…

@dalepartridge Is egalitarianism the same thing as feminism? Because we are egal

@dalepartridge Is egalitarianism the same thing as feminism? Because we are egalitarian and have 3 kids and didn’t do day care. After the kids were in school, my wife worked but we tag teamed to ensur

@pauldirks @KaeleyT What if male leaders be male and female leaders be female an

@pauldirks @KaeleyT What if male leaders be male and female leaders be female and you have an all around well rounded ministry that doesn’t shoehorn women into being a complete replica of a man with a

@pauldirks @KaeleyT Take a look at this woman. She seems pretty comfortable with

@pauldirks @KaeleyT Take a look at this woman. She seems pretty comfortable with second person… see thread after this post. https://t.co/zwolr6ULXO

@pauldirks @KaeleyT Further, I’m directly confronting women online all the time.

@pauldirks @KaeleyT Further, I’m directly confronting women online all the time. Sometimes they seem to be more resistant than men!

@itbemeAllie @douglaswils I’m pretty sure you didn’t read that long thread in 3 mins. I’m not interesting in “keep sinning… it seems to be working…God is pleased.” I believe that my interpretation makes sense of the context and grammar—all the deta...

@itbemeAllie @douglaswils I’m pretty sure you didn’t read that long thread in 3 mins. I’m not interesting in “keep sinning… it seems to be working…God is pleased.” I believe that my interpretation m

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@pauldirks @KaeleyT Why do you think that women cannot directly confront men? I

@pauldirks @KaeleyT Why do you think that women cannot directly confront men? I see that all the time. But maybe I just work around strong women? All that aside, third person is still not feminine. A

@itbemeAllie @douglaswils That’s not because of ‘mutual submission’—its because of false teaching concerning gender and the mishandling of the gender confused and a rejection of the scripture that says marriage is between 1 man and 1 woman. Mutual s...

@itbemeAllie @douglaswils That’s not because of ‘mutual submission’—its because of false teaching concerning gender and the mishandling of the gender confused and a rejection of the scripture that say