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@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Greek doesn't help? The NT wasn't written in English. About "complementarianism" being the dominant view until the middle of the 20th century...(chuckles)... The formalization of complementarian theology and ...

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Greek doesn't help? The NT wasn't written in English. About "complementarianism" being the dominant view until the middle of the 20th century...(chuckles)...

@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @914Ann @MikeWingerii A complementarian view that has males possessing complete authority over women⎯even if they are not supposed to abuse it⎯provides the fertile ground for abuse and denigrates the true equality of women. ...

@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @914Ann @MikeWingerii A complementarian view that has males possessing complete authority over women⎯even if they are not supposed to abuse it⎯provides the fertile ground for

Gen 1:28 debate

@Andwhit1249 @brianaxelm I'm not sinning. Where does the Bible say that a godly female pastor teaching the truth is a sin? What precisely does it damage? Your ego? Is God harmed by having His physically weaker vessels shepherding His church? Isn't i...

@Andwhit1249 @brianaxelm I'm not sinning. Where does the Bible say that a godly female pastor teaching the truth is a sin? What precisely does it damage? Your ego? Is God harmed by having His physica

@Torncurtainorg @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii I do not follow Rick Warren. While I

@Torncurtainorg @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii I do not follow Rick Warren. While I believe he is correct on the egalitarian issue, I also think that non-Christians get this one right too. Neither do I n

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii I am fully capable of answering anything you want to talk about. But to be fair, you didn't answer my question and I think I deserve answers. Was Paul disqualified since he was not married (ie. not a husband) a...

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii I am fully capable of answering anything you want to talk about. But to be fair, you didn't answer my question and I think I deserve answers. Was Paul disqualif

Heb 13:20 1Pet 5:4 debate

@theologicaljoe @Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii Hi Joe - not a silly question at all. Glad to clarify. No one is specifically called a pastor, such as "Paul, the pastor of..." - Jesus is called the Chief shepherd in 1Pet 5:4 and the great sh...

@theologicaljoe @Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii Hi Joe - not a silly question at all. Glad to clarify. No one is specifically called a pastor, such as "Paul, the pastor of..." - Jesus is call

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Paul is not a husband. Is he disqualified? Order of creation does not mean hierarchy, it means time sequence order. So something related to the time sequence has to do with one being deceived and another not. ...

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Paul is not a husband. Is he disqualified? Order of creation does not mean hierarchy, it means time sequence order. So something related to the time sequence ha

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@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii Deborah was the voice of God in a theocracy. This is not a secular position as Mike presumes. We only need one example to prove that it is not a sin to be in a position of authority over men. If this is what ...

@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii Deborah was the voice of God in a theocracy. This is not a secular position as Mike presumes. We only need one example to prove that it is not a sin to be in a

@PartainSam @MikeWingerii Just to be clear, Mike does say that egalitarians are

@PartainSam @MikeWingerii Just to be clear, Mike does say that egalitarians are family and beloved brothers and sisters. But he estranges himself from them by treating them like they are in unrepentan

@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii But he has the same answer if a woman is

@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii But he has the same answer if a woman is a pastor at all. He never replied saying his comments are only for senior pastors.

@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii We do not see one single pastor in the N

@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii We do not see one single pastor in the New Testament…just Jesus. Take another look.

@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii He never said women shouldn’t be senior

@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii He never said women shouldn’t be senior pastors. He said women shouldn’t be pastors or elders. He doesn’t like using pastor and thinks we should just use elder

@onegospel2021 @MikeWingerii It’s not an emotional rant. All my appeals are base

@onegospel2021 @MikeWingerii It’s not an emotional rant. All my appeals are based on scripture, reason and to keep the peace on secondary matters.

@aubriejwilliams @MikeWingerii You are not following my logic. I’m talking about Mike’s advising people to loudly leave, causing waves and taking people with them. If you prefer a male pastor and elders, then graciously and peacefully leave and go to...

@aubriejwilliams @MikeWingerii You are not following my logic. I’m talking about Mike’s advising people to loudly leave, causing waves and taking people with them. If you prefer a male pastor and elde

@Crystalisives @MichaelBerg888 Jesus didn't pick people to be sure they would be respected. He picked a tax collector! lol. Jesus does things for symbolic reasons. There are 12 sons of Jacob and so there are 12 apostles = 24 elders in Revelation. Th...

@Crystalisives @MichaelBerg888 Jesus didn't pick people to be sure they would be respected. He picked a tax collector! lol. Jesus does things for symbolic reasons. There are 12 sons of Jacob and so th

@pbcmike98 @GinaACleveland @MikeWingerii Where is a godly woman serving as pasto

@pbcmike98 @GinaACleveland @MikeWingerii Where is a godly woman serving as pastor listed as a sin with adultery? Seriously.

@pbcmike98 @GinaACleveland @MikeWingerii This is why the idea that a female past

@pbcmike98 @GinaACleveland @MikeWingerii This is why the idea that a female pastor being in sin just for existing as a pastor has to stop. I adjure you, prove your case. Where does the scripture say

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii None of the 12 were Gentiles. Is your pastor a Gentile? The early church had issues fully accepting Gentiles too…you think it was different with women? Jesus picked 12 males for a reason not given. It certainly...

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii None of the 12 were Gentiles. Is your pastor a Gentile? The early church had issues fully accepting Gentiles too…you think it was different with women? Jesus pi

@peace_got @AngEngland @pastherandie @MikeWingerii It doesn’t say she read the letter to the church at Rome. It’s a reasonable inference that she would explain anything that may be misunderstood since certainly Paul would have read it with her before...

@peace_got @AngEngland @pastherandie @MikeWingerii It doesn’t say she read the letter to the church at Rome. It’s a reasonable inference that she would explain anything that may be misunderstood since

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Why does leading equate to authority? Whe

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Why does leading equate to authority? Where are you getting this from?

@AverageSc0t @MikeWingerii That’s why I said on the egalitarian issue. 😉

@Sharp_Lancer @CherylSchatz I literally exposit scripture after scripture. Pleas

@Sharp_Lancer @CherylSchatz I literally exposit scripture after scripture. Please show me where I appeal to emotion.

@SunriseTrends Do you not chew before you swallow? Show me where the Bible says

@SunriseTrends Do you not chew before you swallow? Show me where the Bible says female pastors are sinning by serving in this capacity.

@Brayne_Zee @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii Please show me again what clearly articu

@Brayne_Zee @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii Please show me again what clearly articulated “commands” barring women from serving as pastors you are referring to?

@Ichthusproject @CherylSchatz @pastherandie @MikeWingerii @Crystalisives @ryancduff @will_servant @CharmyRosewolf @bkr8un @JollyStine @jdpritchett I’m egalitarian. If someone is affirming female pastors while agreeing that the Bible teaches that the...

@Ichthusproject @CherylSchatz @pastherandie @MikeWingerii @Crystalisives @ryancduff @will_servant @CharmyRosewolf @bkr8un @JollyStine @jdpritchett I’m egalitarian. If someone is affirming female past

@pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii This is a reasonable inference but it’s not stated explicitly in scripture. So just hold this as it is reasonable to assume Paul would have explained it to the person delivering because it’s scripture and she’s ...

@pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii This is a reasonable inference but it’s not stated explicitly in scripture. So just hold this as it is reasonable to assume Paul would have explained it to the p

@Ichthusproject @CherylSchatz @pastherandie @MikeWingerii @Crystalisives @ryancd

@Ichthusproject @CherylSchatz @pastherandie @MikeWingerii @Crystalisives @ryancduff @will_servant @CharmyRosewolf @bkr8un @JollyStine @jdpritchett I say egalitarian and you think gay, right? Am I righ

@scottspeig @MikeWingerii So many people saying the same thing. Mike spent 43 hours monologuing with himself. Think about that. He sounds open and says things like “I’m open to correction” and look how that makes you feel like he’s open yet when hav...

@scottspeig @MikeWingerii So many people saying the same thing. Mike spent 43 hours monologuing with himself. Think about that. He sounds open and says things like “I’m open to correction” and look h

@pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii Wow, that’s nuts. This is the kind of thi

@pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii Wow, that’s nuts. This is the kind of thing Paul was trying to avoid by commending Phoebe to the church at Rome. The fact that the second church doesn’t at all r

@RSCharlton @NarnianAttorney @MikeWingerii Neat magic trick. So you just eliminated all secondary issues by quipping “sola scriptura”? I believe sola scriptura too. That verse is in the context of stopping false teaching, not stopping anyone from te...

@RSCharlton @NarnianAttorney @MikeWingerii Neat magic trick. So you just eliminated all secondary issues by quipping “sola scriptura”? I believe sola scriptura too. That verse is in the context of st

@RealBennRBoyle @MikeWingerii He spent hours monologuing with himself with no interaction with all the scholars from the other side. Why don’t you ask him why he doesn’t interact with egalitarian scholars? “The first to present his case seems right...

@RealBennRBoyle @MikeWingerii He spent hours monologuing with himself with no interaction with all the scholars from the other side. Why don’t you ask him why he doesn’t interact with egalitarian sch

RT @ryanschatz: @ReformedRant @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii I think that there app

RT @ryanschatz: @ReformedRant @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii I think that there appears to be a translator in the brains of complementarians.…

@ReformedRant @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii I think that there appears to be a translator in the brains of complementarians. We say women are equal and the translator spits out “gay pastor.” Can you guys please stop doing that? The Bible does not com...

@ReformedRant @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii I think that there appears to be a translator in the brains of complementarians. We say women are equal and the translator spits out “gay pastor.” Can you gu

@Ichthusproject @CherylSchatz @pastherandie @MikeWingerii @Crystalisives @ryancduff @will_servant @CharmyRosewolf @bkr8un @JollyStine @jdpritchett So close…you keep saying we all are supposed to have the same attitude but think the women have a great...

@Ichthusproject @CherylSchatz @pastherandie @MikeWingerii @Crystalisives @ryancduff @will_servant @CharmyRosewolf @bkr8un @JollyStine @jdpritchett So close…you keep saying we all are supposed to have

@Jet_Truth @MikeWingerii If a godly woman preaches the truth because she doesn't think that God forbids her, how is that pride? Why isn't a man preaching called pride then? You are presuming that the complementarian view that God has ordained a gend...

@Jet_Truth @MikeWingerii If a godly woman preaches the truth because she doesn't think that God forbids her, how is that pride? Why isn't a man preaching called pride then? You are presuming that the

@CLSRoach Those are good comments. I (and you) not questioning Mike's salvation. I am concerned with the division he will create over what he himself stated is a secondary matter. He should have said that if people cannot tolerate female pastors, the...

@CLSRoach Those are good comments. I (and you) not questioning Mike's salvation. I am concerned with the division he will create over what he himself stated is a secondary matter. He should have said

@JeffreyTanCG The thief on the cross who believed and Jesus said would be in paradise with him "today" was saved without being baptized. What is necessary is being filled with the Holy Spirit which is a condition of repentance and faith. If you submi...

@JeffreyTanCG The thief on the cross who believed and Jesus said would be in paradise with him "today" was saved without being baptized. What is necessary is being filled with the Holy Spirit which is

@DayJobPundit @MikeWingerii Yes, and it's 43 hours. He doesn't actually interact with egalitarians who disagree with him, so he misses or skirts over or dismisses very good explanations. If he had a conversation with someone competent who could respo...

@DayJobPundit @MikeWingerii Yes, and it's 43 hours. He doesn't actually interact with egalitarians who disagree with him, so he misses or skirts over or dismisses very good explanations. If he had a c

@NarnianAttorney You are presuming the complementarian reading of a few passages. There is no prohibition of female pastors for one, and 1Ti 2:12 is dealing with false teaching from a specific woman in Ephesus whom Paul was not naming to protect her;...

@NarnianAttorney You are presuming the complementarian reading of a few passages. There is no prohibition of female pastors for one, and 1Ti 2:12 is dealing with false teaching from a specific woman i

1Ti 2:12 debate

@mmmirele @MikeWingerii You are right that in the complementarian view, singleness seems to be completely overlooked or discouraged as though you are missing out on some spiritual benefit. If a woman needs a husband who is her spiritual authority, th...

@mmmirele @MikeWingerii You are right that in the complementarian view, singleness seems to be completely overlooked or discouraged as though you are missing out on some spiritual benefit. If a woman

@BlockchainBikes @James_farmer4 @MikeWingerii You think it is appropriate to lou

@BlockchainBikes @James_farmer4 @MikeWingerii You think it is appropriate to loudly leave, making waves and drawing others out with you over secondary matters? You think splitting a church is good?

@dsconsole @MikeWingerii The point I'm making is that his advice applies to primary matters and he admitted that female pastors is secondary. The fact that he wants other options (ie. find another church or start your own) means he is acting like thi...

@dsconsole @MikeWingerii The point I'm making is that his advice applies to primary matters and he admitted that female pastors is secondary. The fact that he wants other options (ie. find another chu

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@ryancduff @joyklaprade Great passage and one I have brought up before. To be clear, Mike has said that he doesn't want people to think he is their authority. He is giving his advice. But his influence, large audience, the length of his WIM videos (p...

@ryancduff @joyklaprade Great passage and one I have brought up before. To be clear, Mike has said that he doesn't want people to think he is their authority. He is giving his advice. But his influenc

@ryancduff @will_servant @CherylSchatz @CharmyRosewolf @Ichthusproject @bkr8un @pastherandie @JollyStine @Crystalisives @jdpritchett @MikeWingerii His website claims his ministry is supported by donations. I asked GPT what the potential ad revenue wo...

@ryancduff @will_servant @CherylSchatz @CharmyRosewolf @Ichthusproject @bkr8un @pastherandie @JollyStine @Crystalisives @jdpritchett @MikeWingerii His website claims his ministry is supported by donat

@Crystalisives @CherylSchatz @pastherandie @MikeWingerii @ryancduff @will_servant @CharmyRosewolf @Ichthusproject @bkr8un @JollyStine @jdpritchett That's right. The detail concerning the shamefulness of women speaking can't be due to interrupting as ...

@Crystalisives @CherylSchatz @pastherandie @MikeWingerii @ryancduff @will_servant @CharmyRosewolf @Ichthusproject @bkr8un @JollyStine @jdpritchett That's right. The detail concerning the shamefulness

@Crystalisives @CherylSchatz @pastherandie @MikeWingerii @ryancduff @will_servant @CharmyRosewolf @Ichthusproject @bkr8un @JollyStine @jdpritchett You are right, there are verses where others are silent. What is curious is that in 1Co 14:34, the 3rd...

@Crystalisives @CherylSchatz @pastherandie @MikeWingerii @ryancduff @will_servant @CharmyRosewolf @Ichthusproject @bkr8un @JollyStine @jdpritchett You are right, there are verses where others are sile

1Co 14:34 debate

@Guitardo7 @PensiveJustin @MikeWingerii Did you notice the part about quietly an

@Guitardo7 @PensiveJustin @MikeWingerii Did you notice the part about quietly and peacefully without making waves and trying to take people out of the church with you? Without calling the pastor and e

@Crystalisives @MikeWingerii @CherylSchatz @ryancduff @will_servant @CharmyRosew

@Crystalisives @MikeWingerii @CherylSchatz @ryancduff @will_servant @CharmyRosewolf @Ichthusproject @bkr8un @pastherandie @JollyStine @jdpritchett I was trying to show Mike that what you said was comp

@PensiveJustin @MikeWingerii One option is if it doesn't sit right with you and

@PensiveJustin @MikeWingerii One option is if it doesn't sit right with you and you are intolerant of secondary differences, then quietly and peaceably find a complementarian church.

@carol66944 @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii Mike's statement is contradictory. How can he call someone to repent from teachings he himself calls secondary? He is treating egalitarians as disobedient and rebellious and therefore is removing himself from t...

@carol66944 @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii Mike's statement is contradictory. How can he call someone to repent from teachings he himself calls secondary? He is treating egalitarians as disobedient and r