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@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 As far as I know, complementarians all say that women are equal in worth, value and honor. But they don’t treat them that way because they act in a way that shows they value males more highly than females. You say it’s ju...

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 As far as I know, complementarians all say that women are equal in worth, value and honor. But they don’t treat them that way because they act in a way that shows they valu

@ZacharyGarris This is not true. After considerable study and reflection, I believe I am following the scripture accurately by being egalitarian. I’m telling Christians how I believe the scripture is consistent with this view and how one is not vio...

@ZacharyGarris This is not true. After considerable study and reflection, I believe I am following the scripture accurately by being egalitarian. I’m telling Christians how I believe the scripture i

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 Ok. I realize that you are trying to take the scripture seriously⎯which is commendable. So long as you don't look down on your brothers and sisters who see these non-primary matters differently, that you don't see us in s...

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 Ok. I realize that you are trying to take the scripture seriously⎯which is commendable. So long as you don't look down on your brothers and sisters who see these non-prima

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 Balance does not equate to only males speaking. Many churches today only have the pastor and maybe one other person speaking, so what you are saying to restrict women from speaking from the front doesn't make much differen...

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 Balance does not equate to only males speaking. Many churches today only have the pastor and maybe one other person speaking, so what you are saying to restrict women from

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 Singing is just speaking put to music. If she cannot speak then she cannot sing. That would be taking away the glory of a man. In church only males can have God’s glory. Women should be sitting silently and listening to the...

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 Singing is just speaking put to music. If she cannot speak then she cannot sing. That would be taking away the glory of a man. In church only males can have God’s glory. Wom

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 So women cannot speak or sing then? You said their r

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 So women cannot speak or sing then? You said their role in church was to be silent.

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 Not "ugly," but the Greek word means disgraceful, sha

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 Not "ugly," but the Greek word means disgraceful, shameful, base or sordid, filthy nakedness. Don't believe me? Do you believe John MacArthur? https://t.co/ftRFBtx7Wn

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam They can teach or preach in whatever capacity their gifting allows them to. What they cannot do is teach false doctrine which leads away from faith in Christ's work alone which is what the woman in Ephesus was doing. I'm ...

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam They can teach or preach in whatever capacity their gifting allows them to. What they cannot do is teach false doctrine which leads away from faith in Christ's work alone w

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam The church is not a building, it is any gathering of people. Prophecy is not intended to be done in your closet! It is meant for the edification, encouragement and correction of the body. What good is it to say that the ...

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam The church is not a building, it is any gathering of people. Prophecy is not intended to be done in your closet! It is meant for the edification, encouragement and correct

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam If that is the case, why isn't church just for comple

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam If that is the case, why isn't church just for complementarian men and the rest of us can meet separately and call it a gathering so that the women can participate like the

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 So all doesn't mean all? It doesn't even mean all ki

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 So all doesn't mean all? It doesn't even mean all kinds? It just means all males? 1 Cor 11:5 presumes women are praying and prophesying in church, but you believe that it

1 Cor 11:5 debate

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam You are undermining your own case by recognizing thes

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam You are undermining your own case by recognizing these facts. If a woman can exercise such an authoritative Scripture-level prophetic gift with men present, then what is le

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam So they can teach the Bible to children and adult wom

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam So they can teach the Bible to children and adult women, but as soon as the boy turns from 17 to 18, it's a sin?

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam What do you mean Ch 11 is not speaking about in the church? Where are they praying and prophesying? Outside the front door? In the prayer room? To themselves? So, according to your view of Ch 14, women can speak when p...

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam What do you mean Ch 11 is not speaking about in the church? Where are they praying and prophesying? Outside the front door? In the prayer room? To themselves? So, accor

@Duke456521 @Ashwin_Vengayil @MikeWingerii @hashim_warren Here's the thing. In the New Testament: - No one is explicitly identified as an overseer - Aside from Jesus, there's only two who are explicitly identified as elders (Peter and John) - No one...

@Duke456521 @Ashwin_Vengayil @MikeWingerii @hashim_warren Here's the thing. In the New Testament: - No one is explicitly identified as an overseer - Aside from Jesus, there's only two who are explici

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 That is correct. If this is from Paul, then those wh

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 That is correct. If this is from Paul, then those who claim it is not calling for complete silence are wrong. But here's the caveat⎯it contradicts Paul's own statements in

@WhosMe08310138 @desert_drew3 @smashbaals For sure but there are good reasons to

@WhosMe08310138 @desert_drew3 @smashbaals For sure but there are good reasons to believe it’s not Paul because of elements in the language and he identified himself in all the others because people ch

@NSanctification Ok, so women can teach and perform the same tasks as elders, just so long as they avoid doing it for 2 hours on Sunday morning between 10am and 12pm? So in their homes is fine? What do you mean by be in authority over a man? Does ...

@NSanctification Ok, so women can teach and perform the same tasks as elders, just so long as they avoid doing it for 2 hours on Sunday morning between 10am and 12pm? So in their homes is fine? What

@punkpublican I'm glad you allow women to evangelize! Wouldn't that be teaching someone the gospel? Being an elder is simply teaching and correcting to what the Bible says, not making new doctrine. What makes you think that this is the domain of m...

@punkpublican I'm glad you allow women to evangelize! Wouldn't that be teaching someone the gospel? Being an elder is simply teaching and correcting to what the Bible says, not making new doctrine.

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam The requirement isn't must be male. First, the comment about "one wife husband" is the only place in the Greek might indicate male, but it says husband. If Paul wasn't married and advocated for singleness, then this is no...

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam The requirement isn't must be male. First, the comment about "one wife husband" is the only place in the Greek might indicate male, but it says husband. If Paul wasn't mar

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam Paul was quoting from the Corinthians which likely st

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam Paul was quoting from the Corinthians which likely started from "As in all the churches of the saints, women are to keep silent..." https://t.co/7Y7QxeM1ER

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam Yes, Paul makes his argument from the order of creation. No, there is no mention of authority. First doesn't make superior⎯if so, the animals would rule over the man. The first born is just first, not the best. So what'...

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam Yes, Paul makes his argument from the order of creation. No, there is no mention of authority. First doesn't make superior⎯if so, the animals would rule over the man. The

@patrioticzeal @smashbaals I agree with your last point, but here we are talking about it and you added your opinion, so why not think about it? As you notice, he identified himself in all his letters... 13 of them. But not Hebrews, the last writte...

@patrioticzeal @smashbaals I agree with your last point, but here we are talking about it and you added your opinion, so why not think about it? As you notice, he identified himself in all his letter

@smashbaals Paul has authored many letters and made plain he is the author even

@smashbaals Paul has authored many letters and made plain he is the author even writing in his own hand sometimes to prove it. Hebrews is a stellar work; why would Paul not identify himself. What fa

@3HillsMinor Are we talking again then? I’m not effeminate. I’m very much male. And I’m not twisting scripture just because you don’t agree with or like my exegesis. Paul is dealing with false teachers of any gender as false teaching does not bel...

@3HillsMinor Are we talking again then? I’m not effeminate. I’m very much male. And I’m not twisting scripture just because you don’t agree with or like my exegesis. Paul is dealing with false tea

@Deigratia1985 @3HillsMinor WHAT?! Why would you think I affirm that? All I said was the Bible doesn’t restrict qualified godly women from serving in whatever capacity God has called them and which they desire. Not that they can teach false doctri...

@Deigratia1985 @3HillsMinor WHAT?! Why would you think I affirm that? All I said was the Bible doesn’t restrict qualified godly women from serving in whatever capacity God has called them and which

@Deigratia1985 @Duke456521 @MikeWingerii @hashim_warren Yes, that is fine by me. You have to judge things for yourself. I think that Mike has been great in many, many respects—my only concerns have been on this issue of women in ministry but so lon...

@Deigratia1985 @Duke456521 @MikeWingerii @hashim_warren Yes, that is fine by me. You have to judge things for yourself. I think that Mike has been great in many, many respects—my only concerns have

@3HillsMinor You are entitled to your opinion. But that’s all it is—an opinion.

@3HillsMinor You are entitled to your opinion. But that’s all it is—an opinion. If you want to correct me, you have to do it using scripture without taking it out of context.

@3HillsMinor Show me one scripture in the entire New Testament that identifies a

@3HillsMinor Show me one scripture in the entire New Testament that identifies any specific person as a pastor (poimen) other than Jesus Himself. Now tell me again how you know women weren’t pastors

@3HillsMinor You appear to have a problem with reading in context. You cannot i

@3HillsMinor You appear to have a problem with reading in context. You cannot ignore Eph 5:21: “and subject yourselves to one another in the fear of Christ.” Whatever Paul says later cannot contradi

Eph 5:21 debate

@3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning That’s what I’m contending. I’m contending this is not referring to all women because Paul explicitly uses the singular and specifies it is a specific woman because of the anaphoric reference to...

@3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning That’s what I’m contending. I’m contending this is not referring to all women because Paul explicitly uses the singular and specifies it is a sp

@3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Even Mike Winger admits that women can be deacons and yet the term “one wife husband” is also a requirement of deacons. Was Paul married? No. And he advocated for singleness—since it removes d...

@3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Even Mike Winger admits that women can be deacons and yet the term “one wife husband” is also a requirement of deacons. Was Paul married? No.

@3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning You are misinterpreting 1 Tim 2:12. You assume it's as clear as mud, but its just mud in the eye of the complementarians and Patriachists! Read chapter 1⎯how Paul refers to the purpose of stopp...

@3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning You are misinterpreting 1 Tim 2:12. You assume it's as clear as mud, but its just mud in the eye of the complementarians and Patriachists! Read

1 Tim 2:12 debate

@MikeWingerii In the above clip, and assuming a similar approach is taken in congregational settings, I'm compelled to ask about the authority behind your teachings. Is your authority as a male based on personal interpretation, or does it hold doctr...

@MikeWingerii In the above clip, and assuming a similar approach is taken in congregational settings, I'm compelled to ask about the authority behind your teachings. Is your authority as a male based

@MikeWingerii 🔍 In the clip from [1:44:48] to [1:46:15], you again question how an egalitarian husband can avoid submitting to his wife. "Do he need to go to a different church?" you say. 🤔 But, I disagree with your interpretation of verse 12. I se...

@MikeWingerii 🔍 In the clip from [1:44:48] to [1:46:15], you again question how an egalitarian husband can avoid submitting to his wife. "Do he need to go to a different church?" you say. 🤔 But, I di

@Christopherf6K Where is the term “role” ever mentioned in the Greek? Where does it say “leaders must not be females?” The clarity on gender restrictions in leadership is not given as you assume. Further, testifying to what Jesus previously said a...

@Christopherf6K Where is the term “role” ever mentioned in the Greek? Where does it say “leaders must not be females?” The clarity on gender restrictions in leadership is not given as you assume. F

@TeamPapuForever @graceforprize Paul was both an apostle and overseer but not a husband. So this requirement cannot mean “must be married” but rather “if married, must be faithful.” The emphasis is on the “one.” For the same reason it doesn’t requ...

@TeamPapuForever @graceforprize Paul was both an apostle and overseer but not a husband. So this requirement cannot mean “must be married” but rather “if married, must be faithful.” The emphasis is

@psalm119164 @ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam I’m just curious. What does “authority

@psalm119164 @ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam I’m just curious. What does “authority over men” look like? You mean, your pastor tells you what to do and you unquestioningly listen?

@Duke456521 @Ashwin_Vengayil @MikeWingerii @hashim_warren I don’t think he was c

@Duke456521 @Ashwin_Vengayil @MikeWingerii @hashim_warren I don’t think he was claiming Mike has to retain a complementarian view or risk losing money. He simply asked whether he has any known confli

@graceforprize @sympatheticNPC The doctrine that came out of this was set out by the Apostles⎯James, Paul, Peter, but it was also agreed to by the WHOLE church. James was the leader in this judgment but in verse 22 it was the whole church which inclu...

@graceforprize @sympatheticNPC The doctrine that came out of this was set out by the Apostles⎯James, Paul, Peter, but it was also agreed to by the WHOLE church. James was the leader in this judgment b

@graceforprize So women can teach ONLY the following: - WHO: younger women who are married - WHAT: to love their husbands and children Anything else (like theology or any other instruction) and to anyone else⎯these must by taught by the husband. Si...

@graceforprize So women can teach ONLY the following: - WHO: younger women who are married - WHAT: to love their husbands and children Anything else (like theology or any other instruction) and to an

@graceforprize @sympatheticNPC 1 Tim 2:12⎯taken completely out of context⎯can appear clear. Don't skip the hard work of reading in context. No one is supposed to "lord it over" anyone. So if your view of having superior authority over another pers...

@graceforprize @sympatheticNPC 1 Tim 2:12⎯taken completely out of context⎯can appear clear. Don't skip the hard work of reading in context. No one is supposed to "lord it over" anyone. So if your v

1 Tim 2:12 debate

@melvin39056 @Kdubtru Ok, that's not what I meant. Women are certainly not donk

@melvin39056 @Kdubtru Ok, that's not what I meant. Women are certainly not donkeys but every bit as equal and human and valued as men. But if God can speak through a donkey, why is He limited to tea

@graceforprize @sympatheticNPC I imagine explaining and convincing is getting pr

@graceforprize @sympatheticNPC I imagine explaining and convincing is getting pretty close. But yes, they would not in that moment occupying the office of teacher.

@Isaiah45_7 Why do you think this is a straw man? I suppose you probably agree

@Isaiah45_7 Why do you think this is a straw man? I suppose you probably agree it’s ok for women to tell or teach men? Or you think that women can testify just not teach?

@ZacharyGarris I have a lot of complementarian books already. How is yours diff

@ZacharyGarris I have a lot of complementarian books already. How is yours different?

@ZacharyGarris Jesus Himself commanded that all nations were to be discipled to

@ZacharyGarris Jesus Himself commanded that all nations were to be discipled to obey everything He taught the apostles (Matt 28:18-20). So that means women were also commanded to teach too. Or was J

Matt 28:18-20 commentary

@Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Not really. It’s assuming that everyo

@Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Not really. It’s assuming that everyone who is a shepherd is named as one in the New Testament when in actuality not a single person is specifically called a

@Kdubtru God doesn’t forbid godly qualified women from teaching true doctrine.

@Kdubtru God doesn’t forbid godly qualified women from teaching true doctrine. Sometimes he even speaks through donkeys. 😏

@Kdubtru @michael_ronning Ok, please show me one person who is called “pastor” i

@Kdubtru @michael_ronning Ok, please show me one person who is called “pastor” in the New Testament aside from Jesus.