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@TentSpike @deadtosin610 Beyond dishonest? Beyond? 1Ti 2:12 says teach so I ass

@TentSpike @deadtosin610 Beyond dishonest? Beyond? 1Ti 2:12 says teach so I assumed you were reading that passage. Where does the text say a pastor must not be a woman?

1Ti 2:12 question

@TentSpike @jsrrayburn @ryancduff @deadtosin610 @CharmyRosewolf @AlanDMyattPhD S

@TentSpike @jsrrayburn @ryancduff @deadtosin610 @CharmyRosewolf @AlanDMyattPhD So Paul’s purpose of writing Timothy was to stop females from having any positions of authority?

@TentSpike @jsrrayburn @ryancduff @deadtosin610 @CharmyRosewolf @AlanDMyattPhD S

@TentSpike @jsrrayburn @ryancduff @deadtosin610 @CharmyRosewolf @AlanDMyattPhD So Paul wants Timothy to stop people from teaching truth? Where do you get that from?

This is an important response I gave to @MikeWingerii's egalitarian repentance v

This is an important response I gave to @MikeWingerii's egalitarian repentance video. I go through each of his statements one by one. If you've been tracking with me in this discussion, I encourage yo

@deadtosin610 @JollyStine "If anyone aspires (desires) the office of overseer, it is a fine work they desire to do"⎯ how is desiring a sin? I was told this as a man, that to desire the task of overseer showed pride. Nowhere is desiring this said to ...

@deadtosin610 @JollyStine "If anyone aspires (desires) the office of overseer, it is a fine work they desire to do"⎯ how is desiring a sin? I was told this as a man, that to desire the task of overse

@deadtosin610 @JollyStine Further, we don't expect the highest standard of maturity from helpers, but we do of leaders as people look up to the leaders. So it is perfectly reasonable that Paul is speaking of deacons that are leaders that must hold to...

@deadtosin610 @JollyStine Further, we don't expect the highest standard of maturity from helpers, but we do of leaders as people look up to the leaders. So it is perfectly reasonable that Paul is spea

@deadtosin610 @JollyStine It is evident from anyone who has served in church settings, that there are leaders that handle service ministries and manage the volunteers and direct actions and administrate. There is most definitely a difference between ...

@deadtosin610 @JollyStine It is evident from anyone who has served in church settings, that there are leaders that handle service ministries and manage the volunteers and direct actions and administra

@deadtosin610 @JollyStine Ok, but it doesn't make sense. How is the woman and th

@deadtosin610 @JollyStine Ok, but it doesn't make sense. How is the woman and the children possibly referring to the same thing? This sounds like commentators who don't want to admit that John was wri

@JollyStine @deadtosin610 It seems Priscilla and Aquila functioned as apostles t

@JollyStine @deadtosin610 It seems Priscilla and Aquila functioned as apostles traveling to help support the church at Ephesus as it was established, though they weren't explicitly called this.

@deadtosin610 @JollyStine No women priests? That was in the Old Testament. Only

@deadtosin610 @JollyStine No women priests? That was in the Old Testament. Only Jews were priests too. The 12 apostles were all Jews. But now you don't have only Jewish pastors. Same thing for women.

@deadtosin610 @JollyStine If every mature brother and sister desired to be an el

@deadtosin610 @JollyStine If every mature brother and sister desired to be an elder, I'd be expecting a revival to be on the verge...

@deadtosin610 @will_servant Was Paul⎯an overseer and apostle⎯the husband of one

@deadtosin610 @will_servant Was Paul⎯an overseer and apostle⎯the husband of one wife?

@deadtosin610 @JollyStine These functions are all overlapping. We use the term pastor, but this doesn't seem to be stated anywhere in the New Testament about anyone. It is a function, not a role. It seems that overseer (episkopos) and elder (presbyte...

@deadtosin610 @JollyStine These functions are all overlapping. We use the term pastor, but this doesn't seem to be stated anywhere in the New Testament about anyone. It is a function, not a role. It s

@JollyStine @deadtosin610 Paul also addresses the elders in Ephesus in Ac 20:17-

@JollyStine @deadtosin610 Paul also addresses the elders in Ephesus in Ac 20:17-35, but we don't know who they all are. He doesn't call them men.

Ac 20:17-35 debate

@deadtosin610 First, if the Bible doesn't "speak against" godly women pastoring, then they are not being encouraged to sin, right? I understand if you believe that men should be pastors and do it that way in your church, but you should not be thinki...

@deadtosin610 First, if the Bible doesn't "speak against" godly women pastoring, then they are not being encouraged to sin, right? I understand if you believe that men should be pastors and do it tha

@deadtosin610 @JollyStine Please show me which males are called pastors in the New Testament so we can see how many are called this and determine whether women were not called pastors. Answer: No one is called a pastor. Jesus is called the chief She...

@deadtosin610 @JollyStine Please show me which males are called pastors in the New Testament so we can see how many are called this and determine whether women were not called pastors. Answer: No one

1Pe 5:4 general

Titus 1:5-9 1Ti 3:1 1Ti 3:1-13 debate

@deadtosin610 1Ti 3:1-13 and Titus 1:5-9 are often mistakenly thought to forbid women from being overseers. However, the only phrase that people base this on is the idiom "one-wife-husband" used for elders and deacons. A neutral pronoun is used, "tis...

@deadtosin610 1Ti 3:1-13 and Titus 1:5-9 are often mistakenly thought to forbid women from being overseers. However, the only phrase that people base this on is the idiom "one-wife-husband" used for e

@AnonyNonni @OperHealAmerica We can get very used to only seeing men in certain roles that when a woman does it, it can feel wrong or out of place. But our feelings are not what ultimately should guide us. If the Bible doesn't prohibit a woman from b...

@AnonyNonni @OperHealAmerica We can get very used to only seeing men in certain roles that when a woman does it, it can feel wrong or out of place. But our feelings are not what ultimately should guid

@RahabTheHarlot2 @OperHealAmerica OHA says a teacher and office of overseer are very different. I asked, "In what way?" Overseers are to be able to teach and have sound character and a life consistent with the teachings...and of course desire to serv...

@RahabTheHarlot2 @OperHealAmerica OHA says a teacher and office of overseer are very different. I asked, "In what way?" Overseers are to be able to teach and have sound character and a life consistent

@JollyStine @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii I realize that abstaining from marriage would evidently be abstaining from s3x. But where in the text do you draw the conclusion that married women were abstaining from s3x with their husbands? I'm referring to t...

@JollyStine @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii I realize that abstaining from marriage would evidently be abstaining from s3x. But where in the text do you draw the conclusion that married women were abstainin

Titus 1:5-9 1Ti 3:1-13 general

@OperHealAmerica 1Ti 3:1-13 and Titus 1:5-9 do not prohibit women from being eld

@OperHealAmerica 1Ti 3:1-13 and Titus 1:5-9 do not prohibit women from being elders or overseers. https://t.co/QkexDUhLnJ

@OperHealAmerica @Gary5040390811 How is this a primary matter where you need to divide from your church? Where is a godly woman leading a church into truth ever considered a sin in scripture? Wasn't Paul writing to Timothy to stop "certain people" fr...

@OperHealAmerica @Gary5040390811 How is this a primary matter where you need to divide from your church? Where is a godly woman leading a church into truth ever considered a sin in scripture? Wasn't P

1Ti 1:3 question

@cuelove2u @OperHealAmerica What does it mean to you to have authority over men?

@cuelove2u @OperHealAmerica What does it mean to you to have authority over men? Do you think that a man can have "authentein" (the unique word translated "exercise authority" in 1Ti 2:12) over anyone

1Ti 2:12 debate

@OperHealAmerica @RahabTheHarlot2 In what way precisely? So a woman can all her

@OperHealAmerica @RahabTheHarlot2 In what way precisely? So a woman can all her life be the voice of God to people by giving instruction to the king and judging matters and giving prophecies, but cann

@OperHealAmerica The Bible does not forbid women from being pastors or elders. h

@OperHealAmerica The Bible does not forbid women from being pastors or elders. https://t.co/zgtqLeTHX9

@Ichthusproject @JollyStine @will_servant @pastherandie @Crystalisives @CherylSc

@Ichthusproject @JollyStine @will_servant @pastherandie @Crystalisives @CherylSchatz @jdpritchett @MikeWingerii Are you referring to gender hierarchy and authority structures? If so, I agree!

@FreeAmongDead @smashbaals Deborah was usurping authority by telling Barak what

@FreeAmongDead @smashbaals Deborah was usurping authority by telling Barak what to do and being a faithful judge over Israel? She was never criticized in scripture and God appointed her and Barak was

@Crystalisives @pastherandie @Ichthusproject @CherylSchatz @jdpritchett @MikeWingerii Mike does seem to consider this as he basically says that he wouldn't force his wife and would try to come to agreement or not move forward. Sounds egalitarian to m...

@Crystalisives @pastherandie @Ichthusproject @CherylSchatz @jdpritchett @MikeWingerii Mike does seem to consider this as he basically says that he wouldn't force his wife and would try to come to agre

commentary

@MikeWingerii This Bible is suspect from the name. But the fact they put revelat

@MikeWingerii This Bible is suspect from the name. But the fact they put revelations in the plural or used devine instead of divine seems like editorial mistakes. The serious mistakes are what I'd foc

@KimberleeJayneW I'm not sure I know anyone who sees pastoral work as a physical job of taking a stick to wolves. Are you suggesting that if a woman was the pastor, that a beefy male-wolf would force his way in the front door and take over the church...

@KimberleeJayneW I'm not sure I know anyone who sees pastoral work as a physical job of taking a stick to wolves. Are you suggesting that if a woman was the pastor, that a beefy male-wolf would force

@Ichthusproject @pastherandie @jdpritchett @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii I’m egali

@Ichthusproject @pastherandie @jdpritchett @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii I’m egalitarian.

@JJacobs63985241 @Crystalisives @CherylSchatz @pastherandie @jdpritchett @MikeWi

@JJacobs63985241 @Crystalisives @CherylSchatz @pastherandie @jdpritchett @MikeWingerii Haha... well, I wasn't referring to sexual unions. I was meaning exclusively male leadership groups (like elder c

@rofbethany How is it not a secondary issue? You even disagree with Mike, a comp

@rofbethany How is it not a secondary issue? You even disagree with Mike, a complementarian. God's judgment is not heavy upon us because of God's gifting and calling on godly women to pastor churches

@donnadhoward Well, I'd love to find all the egalitarians too. I would like to e

@donnadhoward Well, I'd love to find all the egalitarians too. I would like to encourage them and show them how they are not disobeying God in these passages.

@jsrrayburn @ryancduff @TentSpike @deadtosin610 @CharmyRosewolf @AlanDMyattPhD Sorry, where does he say "must not be a woman" or "must be a man"? Doesn't he use the same idiom "one-wife-husband" which is easily shown does not mean married since Paul ...

@jsrrayburn @ryancduff @TentSpike @deadtosin610 @CharmyRosewolf @AlanDMyattPhD Sorry, where does he say "must not be a woman" or "must be a man"? Doesn't he use the same idiom "one-wife-husband" which

@jsrrayburn @ryancduff @TentSpike @deadtosin610 @CharmyRosewolf @AlanDMyattPhD "a woman" is not always specific, but since the article is used with the noun in v14, this anaphorically indicates that the "a woman" is a specific woman. Paul said in 1Ti...

@jsrrayburn @ryancduff @TentSpike @deadtosin610 @CharmyRosewolf @AlanDMyattPhD "a woman" is not always specific, but since the article is used with the noun in v14, this anaphorically indicates that t

1Ti 1:3 debate

@ThomasPurell @MikeWingerii @sailemptyskies I’m also not ignoring apostolic teac

@ThomasPurell @MikeWingerii @sailemptyskies I’m also not ignoring apostolic teaching. However, I am not taking church history after the apostles as inspired and binding. #SolaScriptura

@ThomasPurell @MikeWingerii @sailemptyskies I’m not setting aside any command of scripture. But I’m rejecting your faulty interpretation on biblical grounds. Even on your view, 1Ti 2:12 doesn’t have an imperative so how do you establish it as a comma...

@ThomasPurell @MikeWingerii @sailemptyskies I’m not setting aside any command of scripture. But I’m rejecting your faulty interpretation on biblical grounds. Even on your view, 1Ti 2:12 doesn’t have a

1Ti 2:12 debate

@someguy0474 @DMurzea @MikeWingerii There is no disobedience to God. That is all

@someguy0474 @DMurzea @MikeWingerii There is no disobedience to God. That is all just a strawman assuming complementarian is the Biblical model, but that is what we are contesting! https://t.co/xmm4QI

@MackDonahue @Themostbased098 @MikeWingerii I do not believe that my egalitarian stance is unbiblical because I do not believe that "biblical marriage" is complementarian⎯which does not mean I'm erasing male and female, just that I don't believe the ...

@MackDonahue @Themostbased098 @MikeWingerii I do not believe that my egalitarian stance is unbiblical because I do not believe that "biblical marriage" is complementarian⎯which does not mean I'm erasi

@ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii The scripture does not explicitly prohibit "women" from teaching others unless they are teaching "strange doctrines." Nowhere does Paul ever prohibit a godly woman from teaching truth to others including men. To do so would ...

@ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii The scripture does not explicitly prohibit "women" from teaching others unless they are teaching "strange doctrines." Nowhere does Paul ever prohibit a godly woman from teach

Matt 28:18-20 general

@veradearxh How is supporting godly female pastors who teach true doctrine hurti

@veradearxh How is supporting godly female pastors who teach true doctrine hurting the church?

@Themostbased098 @MikeWingerii Why would I turn away from supporting godly femal

@Themostbased098 @MikeWingerii Why would I turn away from supporting godly female pastors if I am convinced scripture doesn't forbid them?

@FatherForgiv3Me So you are complementarian? Is supporting female pastors a sin? Are we to repent of something that is not sin? Apparently I'm causing "great harm" just by sharing my egalitarian views and supporting female pastors. Where is this eve...

@FatherForgiv3Me So you are complementarian? Is supporting female pastors a sin? Are we to repent of something that is not sin? Apparently I'm causing "great harm" just by sharing my egalitarian views

@MackDonahue Except we repent for sin, not for disagreeing on a secondary matter

@MackDonahue Except we repent for sin, not for disagreeing on a secondary matter. Supporting female pastors is not a "sin". If it is, where is it listed as a sin in scripture?

@Themostbased098 @MikeWingerii You don't REPENT of secondary issues. It's like saying to repent of your amillenialism or repent of drinking wine in moderation. When we use that word, it means wrong was done, that sin was committed. I want Mike to exp...

@Themostbased098 @MikeWingerii You don't REPENT of secondary issues. It's like saying to repent of your amillenialism or repent of drinking wine in moderation. When we use that word, it means wrong wa

@MikeWingerii Thanks for chiming in. I certainly want to accurately represent wh

@MikeWingerii Thanks for chiming in. I certainly want to accurately represent what you are saying here. What sin or wrongdoing are egalitarians committing? We are doing great harm by supporting female

@CherylSchatz @wichman_matthew I think he thinks he's trying to be nice to egali

@CherylSchatz @wichman_matthew I think he thinks he's trying to be nice to egalitarians... he did say we are fully family and this is a secondary issue. Just that he contradicted this by saying we nee

@GinaACleveland @MikeWingerii Hey, I disagree with Mike and I don't think he hat

@GinaACleveland @MikeWingerii Hey, I disagree with Mike and I don't think he hates women. He simply thinks that only men can be elders and speak "authoritatively." That's not the same as saying he hat

@pastorchaset @MikeWingerii What was a game changer about the last one?