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@Manny_Clay1 Please explain to me also why women are to have "a symbol of" autho

@Manny_Clay1 Please explain to me also why women are to have "a symbol of" authority on their heads "because of the angels"? It's easy, it's clear English. But did you know "a symbol of" is not in th

@ymmotrojam @YourCalvinist Jesus is the one who knows what He wants for His own church. And Jesus purposely excluded any mention of elders because it is not up to the elders to carry out church discipline, but the church. Jesus' words were not meant...

@ymmotrojam @YourCalvinist Jesus is the one who knows what He wants for His own church. And Jesus purposely excluded any mention of elders because it is not up to the elders to carry out church discip

@ymmotrojam @YourCalvinist The final say in Matt 18 for church discipline is the

@ymmotrojam @YourCalvinist The final say in Matt 18 for church discipline is the entire church. Elders are not even mentioned.

@Manny_Clay1 What does being lord mean except to be the boss who always gets his

@Manny_Clay1 What does being lord mean except to be the boss who always gets his way? Teach me like I’m a high school student because I’m not sure what I’m missing.

@Manny_Clay1 I already explained this in context. I mean if you want your wife t

@Manny_Clay1 I already explained this in context. I mean if you want your wife to call you lord and serve you like a slave without you reciprocating and that works for the two of you, knock your socks

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@Manny_Clay1 Wives are to be subject to their husbands, yes. But husbands also a

@Manny_Clay1 Wives are to be subject to their husbands, yes. But husbands also are to be subject to their wives. Wives are not like eternal children but are equal partners. Are you married by chance?

@MissindaCouv Adam wasn’t taken by surprise and, watching her die by eating the fruit, decided to die with her (or something like that). He was right there the whole time! How is it that you are asserting he is being a good husband when he just let h...

@MissindaCouv Adam wasn’t taken by surprise and, watching her die by eating the fruit, decided to die with her (or something like that). He was right there the whole time! How is it that you are asser

@WeirdBibleGuy @MikeWingerii You forgot all egalitarians whom Mike called to rep

@WeirdBibleGuy @MikeWingerii You forgot all egalitarians whom Mike called to repent of spreading their teaching.

@erniedavidson61 @masonmennenga The majority of Christians don't agree with the

@erniedavidson61 @masonmennenga The majority of Christians don't agree with the Bible?

@IlGreven @masonmennenga All English translations should be checked against the

@IlGreven @masonmennenga All English translations should be checked against the Hebrew and Greek. The KJV—although very good⎯ was translated before the discovery of many earlier manuscripts and some p

@AboutLungCancer @masonmennenga Further, I want to clarify that it is not possible to obey the law to become right before God! You have to acknowledge that you have failed, repent and then ask God for forgiveness. Then put your trust in Him, read you...

@AboutLungCancer @masonmennenga Further, I want to clarify that it is not possible to obey the law to become right before God! You have to acknowledge that you have failed, repent and then ask God for

@garlicmofongo Hm. I was actually farming it this way to expose something in the

@garlicmofongo Hm. I was actually farming it this way to expose something in the thinking of complementarians. I don't think Adam was promoted either, but comps think God gave him authority to rule Ev

1Co 11:10 1Co 11:3 1Co 11:9 debate

@Manny_Clay1 1Ti 2:13-14 only states that the time order of creation is why Adam wasn't deceived and Eve was. 1Co 11:3 is not about authority but about source relationships as confirmed by v11-12. 1Co 11:9 is merely describing why Eve was created, ...

@Manny_Clay1 1Ti 2:13-14 only states that the time order of creation is why Adam wasn't deceived and Eve was. 1Co 11:3 is not about authority but about source relationships as confirmed by v11-12. 1

@TracyWelborn6 Well, I just find it curious that what you believe is very similar to Mormon teaching… "Adam fell that men might be; and men are, that they might have joy." (2 Nephi 2:25). "The fall of man came as a blessing in disguise... Had Adam...

@TracyWelborn6 Well, I just find it curious that what you believe is very similar to Mormon teaching… "Adam fell that men might be; and men are, that they might have joy." (2 Nephi 2:25). "The fall

2 Nephi 2:25 general

@subq We both agree that wives are to submit to their husbands; I believe husbands also to submit to their wives, to stand under them and set aside their own rights or preferences to do what is in the best interests of their wife. I don’t see husban...

@subq We both agree that wives are to submit to their husbands; I believe husbands also to submit to their wives, to stand under them and set aside their own rights or preferences to do what is in the

@TracyWelborn6 Are you a Mormon? Because that’s exactly what the Mormon bishops

@TracyWelborn6 Are you a Mormon? Because that’s exactly what the Mormon bishops were telling me when they were in my Livingroom trying to answer my questions. God anticipated the fall, so there’s no

@Manny_Clay1 Please show me the scriptural argument, because I don’t see it. Where is man being made “higher” than the woman at creation? Where does God give the man authority over the woman at creation? Where is he supposed to get the last word in a...

@Manny_Clay1 Please show me the scriptural argument, because I don’t see it. Where is man being made “higher” than the woman at creation? Where does God give the man authority over the woman at creati

@subq I’m actually allowing scripture to shape my worldview. If you are indeed d

@subq I’m actually allowing scripture to shape my worldview. If you are indeed doing that, then show me on what scriptural basis your view stands?

@subq The OP was intended to get complementarians to think. When did God give Ad

@subq The OP was intended to get complementarians to think. When did God give Adam authority over Eve prior to the fall when all we have is God giving both of them authority to rule creation (not each

Ge 1:28 debate

@Skyblitz741776 It means she is in covenant with him. It doesn’t mean subordinat

@Skyblitz741776 It means she is in covenant with him. It doesn’t mean subordination or that she’s his conquered slave.

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RT @ryanschatz: @Manny_Clay1 Right, they had free will and still sinned. The se

RT @ryanschatz: @Manny_Clay1 Right, they had free will and still sinned. The serpent could have been silenced using free will too… https:/…

@Manny_Clay1 Right, they had free will and still sinned. The serpent could have

@Manny_Clay1 Right, they had free will and still sinned. The serpent could have been silenced using free will too… https://t.co/ORDRn4g24T

@carol66944 Hm. But we still have fellowship with those who believe only men can

@carol66944 Hm. But we still have fellowship with those who believe only men can be elders and pastors, right?

@Manny_Clay1 Good question. But the issue is that he wasn’t ever given authority

@Manny_Clay1 Good question. But the issue is that he wasn’t ever given authority over Eve in the first place. So the first mention of ruling Eve is after the fall. And it’s stated to Eve and like a pr

@strykerdawn Actually, it does. I’m attaching a few resources as well as something from “The Expository Dictionary of Bible Words” below. The guards on the wall of a city were called to keep watch over the safety of the city. Guard In each case it ...

@strykerdawn Actually, it does. I’m attaching a few resources as well as something from “The Expository Dictionary of Bible Words” below. The guards on the wall of a city were called to keep watch ov

@Bradcrossman I was tracking with you, but it sounds like you think Adam had authority over Eve before the fall. Where was Adam given authority over Eve before the fall? That’s why I framed it as a promotion since the first time we see God mentioning...

@Bradcrossman I was tracking with you, but it sounds like you think Adam had authority over Eve before the fall. Where was Adam given authority over Eve before the fall? That’s why I framed it as a pr

@Vestwitt Sounds like mutual submission to me!

@TarienCole Well, I agree he wasn’t promoted. I was using this tongue-in-cheek f

@TarienCole Well, I agree he wasn’t promoted. I was using this tongue-in-cheek from a complementarian perspective. Adam was never given the responsibility to rule over Eve. Egalitarian doesn’t encour

@carol66944 @lollyfana @RedefineApolog1 So “truth” about the oldest events in history was an obstacle that Paul was facing in this particular church? You are suggesting that 1Ti 2:13-14 is a myth without any evidence from the context to even hint at ...

@carol66944 @lollyfana @RedefineApolog1 So “truth” about the oldest events in history was an obstacle that Paul was facing in this particular church? You are suggesting that 1Ti 2:13-14 is a myth with

1Ti 2:13-14 commentary

@carol66944 @lollyfana @RedefineApolog1 How then do you know whether Paul is ref

@carol66944 @lollyfana @RedefineApolog1 How then do you know whether Paul is refuting something or supporting it?

@carol66944 @lollyfana @RedefineApolog1 If a wife believes but her husband does

@carol66944 @lollyfana @RedefineApolog1 If a wife believes but her husband does not, are both saved because they are one?

@carol66944 @lollyfana @RedefineApolog1 If Paul says to pay no attention to myth

@carol66944 @lollyfana @RedefineApolog1 If Paul says to pay no attention to myths, but then pays attention to such myths in his argument which he doesn't refute, doesn't that sound odd to you?

@MelindaSeed Great question! Adam was given the responsibility to guard the garden. In Genesis 2:15, Adam is commanded to “cultivate and keep” the garden. The Hebrew word for “keep” (שָׁמַר, shamar) can mean “guard” or “protect.” This implies a respo...

@MelindaSeed Great question! Adam was given the responsibility to guard the garden. In Genesis 2:15, Adam is commanded to “cultivate and keep” the garden. The Hebrew word for “keep” (שָׁמַר, shamar) c

Genesis 2:15 general

@profitecpro 7. The New Testament doesn't support the view that husbands are to

@profitecpro 7. The New Testament doesn't support the view that husbands are to rule over their wives, but to humble themselves and serve them... "and whoever wants to be first among you shall be slav

Mk 10:44 debate

@Tailfeathers_WA @QuixoteSword Mat 13:12? What are you taking away from me that I have? The fact is that some accept female elders and pastors in rejection of the text. Others, like me, carefully study and conclude that the text is consistent with f...

@Tailfeathers_WA @QuixoteSword Mat 13:12? What are you taking away from me that I have? The fact is that some accept female elders and pastors in rejection of the text. Others, like me, carefully stu

Mat 13:12 question

@Tailfeathers_WA @RebekahRutt Head is a part of the body. You are interpreting it as authority because it contains the brain. But the head includes eyes, nose, mouth, ears, etc. A man is not the brain of his wife…because she has her own brain. If it...

@Tailfeathers_WA @RebekahRutt Head is a part of the body. You are interpreting it as authority because it contains the brain. But the head includes eyes, nose, mouth, ears, etc. A man is not the brain

Heb 13:6 Ps 118:7 Ps 54:4 debate

@Mecenatex What do you notice about the following verses? Who is in authority? Ps 54:4 - "Behold, God is my helper; the Lord is the upholder of my life." Heb 13:6 - "So we can confidently say, 'The Lord is my helper; I will not fear; what can man d...

@Mecenatex What do you notice about the following verses? Who is in authority? Ps 54:4 - "Behold, God is my helper; the Lord is the upholder of my life." Heb 13:6 - "So we can confidently say, 'The

@carol66944 @RedefineApolog1 @lollyfana In fact, in Ro 5:18-19, Paul argues that just as you received curse of sin and death from the fall even though you didn’t originally do anything to deserve it (it is universal to all men), so ALSO through the o...

@carol66944 @RedefineApolog1 @lollyfana In fact, in Ro 5:18-19, Paul argues that just as you received curse of sin and death from the fall even though you didn’t originally do anything to deserve it (

Ro 5:18-19 general

@carol66944 @RedefineApolog1 @lollyfana Why are you disparaging my view as a “soap opera”? Even though we may disagree on the how, we are on the same team, right? Ro 5 says “one” man not mankind. And then Paul contrasts with Jesus who is one man. Pa...

@carol66944 @RedefineApolog1 @lollyfana Why are you disparaging my view as a “soap opera”? Even though we may disagree on the how, we are on the same team, right? Ro 5 says “one” man not mankind. And

@KatieRedfern3 Well, I’m framing it like a complementarian. They seem to be responding by saying he was always in authority over Eve, but the text nowhere says this. So I’m showing that the complementarian version of the text seems to be giving more ...

@KatieRedfern3 Well, I’m framing it like a complementarian. They seem to be responding by saying he was always in authority over Eve, but the text nowhere says this. So I’m showing that the complement

@carol66944 @RedefineApolog1 @lollyfana How am I contradicting God’s Word on the

@carol66944 @RedefineApolog1 @lollyfana How am I contradicting God’s Word on the Fall in Genesis? 🤔

Acts 17:34 Jas 1:20 Jas 1:8 debate

@Isis233305 @Alex7Shiro Well, you certainly point out a valid and important point because there are clear passages that not only use “adam” to refer to mankind but “aner” or “andros” (the Greek for male or husband) to refer generally to people. For ...

@Isis233305 @Alex7Shiro Well, you certainly point out a valid and important point because there are clear passages that not only use “adam” to refer to mankind but “aner” or “andros” (the Greek for ma

@Here4Now0829 @txndc First, I only used this translation as it more accurately t

@Here4Now0829 @txndc First, I only used this translation as it more accurately translates the verb. You can feel free to look at the Hebrew since that has to be the final arbiter. Second, I agree. Th

@profitecpro In that case, when was he given the authority to rule over Eve when

@profitecpro In that case, when was he given the authority to rule over Eve when all we have is the command for both to rule over creation? https://t.co/VZDnAusUDN

@BrandonGra53760 @RedefineApolog1 For your first question, the Hebrew phrase used here is "טוֹב וָרָע" (tov va-ra), which directly translates to "good and evil." The word "וָ" (va) is a conjunction in Hebrew meaning "and," not "from." Only Adam knew ...

@BrandonGra53760 @RedefineApolog1 For your first question, the Hebrew phrase used here is "טוֹב וָרָע" (tov va-ra), which directly translates to "good and evil." The word "וָ" (va) is a conjunction in

@Trentofthenorth @IiiPaulus That’s right showing their interdependence. But comi

@Trentofthenorth @IiiPaulus That’s right showing their interdependence. But coming from someone doesn’t mean you have authority to rule them.

@Trentofthenorth @IiiPaulus I mention the mother because you literally and physi

@Trentofthenorth @IiiPaulus I mention the mother because you literally and physically came out of her body.

@ampersandohms Yes, that’s a good observation. God doesn’t speak to Adam (so how is He giving Him authority over Eve), doesn’t use the imperative and seems to speak prophetically of what their future relationship will be like. He already blamed her a...

@ampersandohms Yes, that’s a good observation. God doesn’t speak to Adam (so how is He giving Him authority over Eve), doesn’t use the imperative and seems to speak prophetically of what their future

@Trentofthenorth @IiiPaulus How? Does your mother have authority over you becaus

@Trentofthenorth @IiiPaulus How? Does your mother have authority over you because you were created from her body? I mean can she tell you as an adult what to do and you have to listen (what authority

@Trentofthenorth Where was Adam given authority over Eve? All we have is God giv

@Trentofthenorth Where was Adam given authority over Eve? All we have is God giving them both authority to rule. https://t.co/p67eoX1s2f