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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-26

@SamanthaAsia2 This passage has been taken out of context. Paul's personal letter to Timothy was to stop false teaching, not to stop women from teaching the truth. And the grammar is very specific for reasons provided in Chapter 1. And verse 15 sa...

@SamanthaAsia2 This passage has been taken out of context. Paul's personal letter to Timothy was to stop false teaching, not to stop women from teaching the truth. And the grammar is very specific f

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-26

@KJBTruth Except you are completely misinterpreting it. Remember, this was a pe

@KJBTruth Except you are completely misinterpreting it. Remember, this was a personal letter to Timothy from Paul who asked him to stop false teaching, not to stop women from teaching true doctrine.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-26

@TheBerean777 What if you are taking these passages out of context? Most seem t

@TheBerean777 What if you are taking these passages out of context? Most seem to forget this was a personal letter to Timothy to stop false teaching, not to stop women from teaching true doctrine. ht

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-26

@ChavuraStephen Hmm. I think invoking Artemis is stretch. This discussion does

@ChavuraStephen Hmm. I think invoking Artemis is stretch. This discussion does not involve the context of this personal letter to Timothy to stop false teaching, not to stop women from teaching true

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-26

@Maxwellian2001 @GnosisRevelator @WWUTTcom Not quite. That passage is being mis

@Maxwellian2001 @GnosisRevelator @WWUTTcom Not quite. That passage is being misunderstood. The grammar is very specific and the context of the personal letter to Timothy and what Paul says in the fi

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-26

@harmonizedgrace So instead of going a "women-only" Bible studies, you are going

@harmonizedgrace So instead of going a "women-only" Bible studies, you are going to Bible studies with both men and women?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-25

@William_E_Wolfe The answer to patriarchalism and feminism which are on the right and left is egalitarianism. Egalitarians understand general differences between men and women but that these do not prevent qualified women from leadership. In fact, ...

@William_E_Wolfe The answer to patriarchalism and feminism which are on the right and left is egalitarianism. Egalitarians understand general differences between men and women but that these do not p

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-24

@BogdanOancea77 According to 1 Cor 14:34-35, a woman should not speak in the assembly. Paul permitted women prophesying, but some in the Corinthian church were trying to put a stop to that. “Have two or three prophets speak, and have the others pas...

@BogdanOancea77 According to 1 Cor 14:34-35, a woman should not speak in the assembly. Paul permitted women prophesying, but some in the Corinthian church were trying to put a stop to that. “Have tw

1 Cor 14:34-35 1 Corinthians 14:29 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-24

@BogdanOancea77 Where does the text say that it is disgraceful for the men? It is the men who are calling it disgraceful and shameful. It is the men who Paul is refuting. The point is not "why do these men need to be taught by women?" but "why do ...

@BogdanOancea77 Where does the text say that it is disgraceful for the men? It is the men who are calling it disgraceful and shameful. It is the men who Paul is refuting. The point is not "why do t

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-24

@BogdanOancea77 Upon what basis can you claim that God doesn't call women to preach and teach for the benefit of all? Why would God gift a women for the benefit of only half of the body? To me, this seems like a limitation on the men. Men are not ...

@BogdanOancea77 Upon what basis can you claim that God doesn't call women to preach and teach for the benefit of all? Why would God gift a women for the benefit of only half of the body? To me, this

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-24

@BogdanOancea77 I am not performing mental gymnastics nor am I ignoring anything! I'm taking the text as fully inspired in its original context. That is in no way rebelling against the Bible and God! This is the sort of attitude that needs to stop...

@BogdanOancea77 I am not performing mental gymnastics nor am I ignoring anything! I'm taking the text as fully inspired in its original context. That is in no way rebelling against the Bible and God

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-24

@BogdanOancea77 I'm not starting from a pre-conceived idea of egalitarianism. I was raised with the idea that women were not allowed to preach and that the leadership role was male only. The CBE article you linked makes the following comment: "In J...

@BogdanOancea77 I'm not starting from a pre-conceived idea of egalitarianism. I was raised with the idea that women were not allowed to preach and that the leadership role was male only. The CBE art

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-24

@BogdanOancea77 Wait…so women can only read from the Bible if men are not present? What are men so scared of? So if a man walks into such a group so they stop and wait for him to leave? How can women be under a male overseer if a man would then ne...

@BogdanOancea77 Wait…so women can only read from the Bible if men are not present? What are men so scared of? So if a man walks into such a group so they stop and wait for him to leave? How can wom

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

@BogdanOancea77 I left out tongues because Twitter limits the characters in my post when I post a thread all at once, so I wanted to highlight the parts. As for your comment "Praying in tongues & prophesying was allowed for everybody": a. About ...

@BogdanOancea77 I left out tongues because Twitter limits the characters in my post when I post a thread all at once, so I wanted to highlight the parts. As for your comment "Praying in tongues &

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

@BogdanOancea77 I know you don't think I understand. But I'm giving evidence that Paul quotes several times from the letter from the Corinthians, there are no "quote marks" in the earliest Greek manuscripts, and verses 34-35 are contradicting what P...

@BogdanOancea77 I know you don't think I understand. But I'm giving evidence that Paul quotes several times from the letter from the Corinthians, there are no "quote marks" in the earliest Greek manu

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

@BogdanOancea77 We see the answer from Jesus in Mark 7:1-13. I would think that anything that prevents people from doing what God said. In this case, preventing women from speaking and preventing women from learning prevented them from obeying what...

@BogdanOancea77 We see the answer from Jesus in Mark 7:1-13. I would think that anything that prevents people from doing what God said. In this case, preventing women from speaking and preventing wo

Mark 7:1-13 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

@BogdanOancea77 My comment was that if taken strictly literally, it means no vocalization. Thankfully 99%+ of the churches I know of don't take this passage this way. 1. First, teaching is a gift which might be included in "word of instruction" fro...

@BogdanOancea77 My comment was that if taken strictly literally, it means no vocalization. Thankfully 99%+ of the churches I know of don't take this passage this way. 1. First, teaching is a gift wh

1Cor14:6 commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

@BogdanOancea77 The point is that all women must be silent in the church. It doesn't say "men, women and children" because it applies only to all women. The reason that makes sense of all the evidence, as I suggest in later slides, is that a woman'...

@BogdanOancea77 The point is that all women must be silent in the church. It doesn't say "men, women and children" because it applies only to all women. The reason that makes sense of all the eviden

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

@GlennDavies @danitreweek In a very brief response to your comment that "elders were qualified men," I believe you are importing male only requirements into these texts. ✏️There is nowhere in 1 Tim 3:1-13 and Titus 1:5-9 that says that an elder must ...

@GlennDavies @danitreweek In a very brief response to your comment that "elders were qualified men," I believe you are importing male only requirements into these texts. ✏️There is nowhere in 1 Tim 3:

Titus 1:5-9 1 Tim 3:1-13 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

@GlennDavies @danitreweek Because that's what apostles do. They plant churches and planting churches implies appointing elders. Regarding Paul only mentioning her in this one commendation is not unusual for any elder or deacon. Most are not mentio...

@GlennDavies @danitreweek Because that's what apostles do. They plant churches and planting churches implies appointing elders. Regarding Paul only mentioning her in this one commendation is not unu

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

@MikeWingerii I plan to respond to Mike’s comments on the “Refutation View” which I hold and Mike’s preferred view which is the view that bars women from judging prophecy in the church. However, here is my explanation of the Refutation View which ta...

@MikeWingerii I plan to respond to Mike’s comments on the “Refutation View” which I hold and Mike’s preferred view which is the view that bars women from judging prophecy in the church. However, here

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

@GlennDavies @danitreweek I'll get to 1 Tim 3 and Titus after I do 1 Cor 11:1-16

@GlennDavies @danitreweek I'll get to 1 Tim 3 and Titus after I do 1 Cor 11:1-16. By apostle, I'm not referring to the original 12 and you are absolutely correct, those were only men.

1 Cor 11:1-16 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

@GlennDavies @danitreweek Ok, I appreciate you updating me. Not sure what you mean by conclusion based? I'm just showing how you can have an egalitarian interpretation of this difficult passage which is Biblically faithful. Is that "conclusion bas...

@GlennDavies @danitreweek Ok, I appreciate you updating me. Not sure what you mean by conclusion based? I'm just showing how you can have an egalitarian interpretation of this difficult passage whic

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

@calandgrant @MikeWingerii So I put my exegesis of 1 Cor 14:34-35 in a thread fo

@calandgrant @MikeWingerii So I put my exegesis of 1 Cor 14:34-35 in a thread for you. Enjoy. 😅 https://t.co/0UJxaSEb7U

1 Cor 14:34-35 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

@BogdanOancea77 @BarakWatson @justasbefuddled Verses 11 and 12 contain an anarthrous noun (without the article), so in Greek, when we have a later reference with the article (v14 "the woman"), it is taken as an anaphoric reference back to the anarthr...

@BogdanOancea77 @BarakWatson @justasbefuddled Verses 11 and 12 contain an anarthrous noun (without the article), so in Greek, when we have a later reference with the article (v14 "the woman"), it is t

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

23/23🧵In summary, what makes the most sense of these verses in context in light

23/23🧵In summary, what makes the most sense of these verses in context in light of Paul responding to matters raised in the Corinthian letter to him is that he quotes from their letter and responds or

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

22/23🧵Question: How does stopping women edify the church? What does Paul have to say to those who disregard his instructions that ALL are to excel in spiritual gifts to EDIFY the church (v12) for the COMMON good (v7) and for edification (v26)? He t...

22/23🧵Question: How does stopping women edify the church? What does Paul have to say to those who disregard his instructions that ALL are to excel in spiritual gifts to EDIFY the church (v12) for the

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

21/23🧵1 Cor 14:36 starts with the Greek letter ἢ. The Exegetical Dictionary of the NT gives this as an example of a rhetorical question we are expected to answer 'no' to. The Concise Greek_English Dictionary agrees listing ἢ as a 'disjunctive conju...

21/23🧵1 Cor 14:36 starts with the Greek letter ἢ. The Exegetical Dictionary of the NT gives this as an example of a rhetorical question we are expected to answer 'no' to. The Concise Greek_English D

1 Cor 14:36 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

20/23🧵In summary: no women learning the scripture? No women giving forth the wo

20/23🧵In summary: no women learning the scripture? No women giving forth the word? NONSENSE! Adam Clarke and Sir William Ramsay both take this as Paul quoting from the Corinthians (see below): http

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

19/23🧵Would Paul have used the oral law to back up his doctrine? Would he have described a woman’s voice as indecent, lewd, filthy, vile or foul? Given the context of the verses surrounding v34-35, I argue absolutely NOT! Paul replies back in the ...

19/23🧵Would Paul have used the oral law to back up his doctrine? Would he have described a woman’s voice as indecent, lewd, filthy, vile or foul? Given the context of the verses surrounding v34-35,

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

18/23🧵We must consider whether Paul is quoting from the letter from the Corinthi

18/23🧵We must consider whether Paul is quoting from the letter from the Corinthians and rebuking it. See the attached quote from the 1924 Montgomery translation of the New Testament which interpreted

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

15/23🧵Continuing on in 1 Corinthians, we see that Paul responds to other matters

15/23🧵Continuing on in 1 Corinthians, we see that Paul responds to other matters from their letter, and in each case, the quote has to be determined by the context! https://t.co/Lo5Jh17Rei

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

11/23🧵In the context of this first letter from Paul to the church at Corinth, in

11/23🧵In the context of this first letter from Paul to the church at Corinth, in 1 Cor 7:1, Paul begins to respond to specific matters from their prior letter: "Now concerning the things you wrote ab

1 Cor 7:1 commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

10/23🧵There is no denying the fact that the Jewish oral laws forbade women from

10/23🧵There is no denying the fact that the Jewish oral laws forbade women from speaking in the assembly. Paul never gave validity to these oral laws to form the basis of the church. https://t.co/Q2aI

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

9/23🧵The Jews were not allowed to burn God's word, but if it came down to a choi

9/23🧵The Jews were not allowed to burn God's word, but if it came down to a choice between giving scriptures into the hands of women or destroying God's word, they were told that the scriptures should

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

7/23🧵There are Jewish oral rabbinical traditions (referred to as the oral law or traditions of the elders) which are captured in the Talmud. In the Talmud, women - are blamed for the fall of man - were to be heard and seen as little as possible - no...

7/23🧵There are Jewish oral rabbinical traditions (referred to as the oral law or traditions of the elders) which are captured in the Talmud. In the Talmud, women - are blamed for the fall of man - we

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

6/23🧵How could Paul be making the statement that women speaking in church is lik

6/23🧵How could Paul be making the statement that women speaking in church is like the disgrace of being a prostitute? Where is this reflected in the law?? https://t.co/ZpZYroN9Aw

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

5/23🧵The law (gr:'nomos') is referenced 9 times in 1 Cor, each time referring to the Mosaic law or God's law. Where in God's law is a law that silences women in the church or synagogue? It is not found except in v34, but it cannot refer back to its...

5/23🧵The law (gr:'nomos') is referenced 9 times in 1 Cor, each time referring to the Mosaic law or God's law. Where in God's law is a law that silences women in the church or synagogue? It is not fo

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

4/23🧵In the local context, it seems clear that silent means to not speak or voca

4/23🧵In the local context, it seems clear that silent means to not speak or vocalize. It is applied to women (plural) and it applies in the context of the church. https://t.co/apPmHgixip

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

3/23🧵However, few churches if any take such a literal view. For one, there are

3/23🧵However, few churches if any take such a literal view. For one, there are clear scriptures permitting women to speak in church like in Acts 2:16 quoting from Joel 2:28-29. https://t.co/kJ9IjMKae

Acts 2:16 Joel 2:28-29 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

2/23🧵Taken out of its context and strictly literally, we would have: 1. No women

2/23🧵Taken out of its context and strictly literally, we would have: 1. No women preaching 2. No women singing 3. No women teaching children or adults 4. No women doing anything that requires vocaliza

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

1/23🧵Exegeting 1 Cor 14:34-35. Notice that silence is within the church, it's substantiated by 'the law' which subordinates and silences women, and the reason is because their voice is disgraceful. Being rude and interrupting is a different probl...

1/23🧵Exegeting 1 Cor 14:34-35. Notice that silence is within the church, it's substantiated by 'the law' which subordinates and silences women, and the reason is because their voice is disgraceful.

1 Cor 14:34-35 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-22

@harmonizedgrace Depends on what you mean by "fundamental" as the biology is fundamental in every cell (XY vs XX chromosomes), but men and women are equally able to lead as they are both rulers. There was no hierarchy or authority structures created...

@harmonizedgrace Depends on what you mean by "fundamental" as the biology is fundamental in every cell (XY vs XX chromosomes), but men and women are equally able to lead as they are both rulers. Ther

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-22

@BogdanOancea77 @BarakWatson @justasbefuddled @MikeWingerii When we are debating these issues, you cannot just quote the Bible, you have to explain it. What does head mean in this context? Is Paul referring to authority and hierarchy to explain the...

@BogdanOancea77 @BarakWatson @justasbefuddled @MikeWingerii When we are debating these issues, you cannot just quote the Bible, you have to explain it. What does head mean in this context? Is Paul r

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-22

@Richard56245924 @justasbefuddled @MikeWingerii Only Gentiles were made equal?

@Richard56245924 @justasbefuddled @MikeWingerii Only Gentiles were made equal? Why does Paul list them together with women? What about the churches Paul planted in scripture?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-22

@Richard56245924 @justasbefuddled @MikeWingerii First, you cannot possibly know that no one questioned it. Second, Timothy would have understood that Paul wasn’t stopping women from teaching the truth (for instance). Third, we follow what the Bible...

@Richard56245924 @justasbefuddled @MikeWingerii First, you cannot possibly know that no one questioned it. Second, Timothy would have understood that Paul wasn’t stopping women from teaching the trut

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-22

@GlennDavies @danitreweek Interesting. I’m egalitarian. I think I have exegesi

@GlennDavies @danitreweek Interesting. I’m egalitarian. I think I have exegesis that makes sense of the hard passages. No need for slander or wading into feelings and experiences. Try me.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-22

@calandgrant @MikeWingerii In the meantime, do you have an issue with my exegesi

@calandgrant @MikeWingerii In the meantime, do you have an issue with my exegesis?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-22

@farmingandJesus So they say Mary is a secondary mediator? That the scripture does not exclude a secondary mediatorship? "there is ONE mediator" meaning no secondary, etc. The following is from: Ott, L. (1957). Fundamentals of Catholic dogma (p. 2...

@farmingandJesus So they say Mary is a secondary mediator? That the scripture does not exclude a secondary mediatorship? "there is ONE mediator" meaning no secondary, etc. The following is from: Ot

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-21

@PastorMark Good point. But it makes me wonder...is it ok for women to do that?

@PastorMark Good point. But it makes me wonder...is it ok for women to do that??

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