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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-26

@LutheranLifter Crystal clear there’s a hierarchy? Not sure what you’re smoking but it’s clouding your vision. Paul says "For man does not originate from woman, but woman from man"⎯Paul is giving the reason why a married woman has two "heads" or sou...

@LutheranLifter Crystal clear there’s a hierarchy? Not sure what you’re smoking but it’s clouding your vision. Paul says "For man does not originate from woman, but woman from man"⎯Paul is giving the

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-26

@MartinMarkLuth1 @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn Both my wife and I are joint leaders of our family. Figuratively as her husband and given that marriage always sources back to its definition in the first marriage, I as the husband am the source of my wif...

@MartinMarkLuth1 @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn Both my wife and I are joint leaders of our family. Figuratively as her husband and given that marriage always sources back to its definition in the first

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-26

@ChristOverChaos @Eric_Conn Yes, we don't want to be appealing to culture over scripture. This is an important point. If it turns out that Paul is appealing to specific circumstances⎯which depends on the context⎯then if similar circumstances exist, ...

@ChristOverChaos @Eric_Conn Yes, we don't want to be appealing to culture over scripture. This is an important point. If it turns out that Paul is appealing to specific circumstances⎯which depends on

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-25

@SpecterAndBride Adam is the origin of the human race of which Eve was the mother of all the living (except for Adam). Through Adam we all die, even if we don't sin in the likeness of Adam if that's what you mean by "federal headship." But the accou...

@SpecterAndBride Adam is the origin of the human race of which Eve was the mother of all the living (except for Adam). Through Adam we all die, even if we don't sin in the likeness of Adam if that's w

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-25

@markjamesadams @AKBrews You might want to learn to read in context, because tha

@markjamesadams @AKBrews You might want to learn to read in context, because that is not what Paul intended by that statement. https://t.co/zkbRDwQWIx

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-23

@pbcmike98 @Guitardo7 @tchadwinder I prefer to say that there is nothing saying Adam’s *guilt* is imputed and there are scriptures explicitly saying that God does not pass on the guilt from the fathers to the sons (Ezekiel 18). What is passed on is ...

@pbcmike98 @Guitardo7 @tchadwinder I prefer to say that there is nothing saying Adam’s *guilt* is imputed and there are scriptures explicitly saying that God does not pass on the guilt from the father

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-23

@StothersRyan I’m not reducing the meaning of v22-23, just saying that it cannot be hierarchical if v21 is mutual—and it is. The husband and wife are established by the first marriage where Adam was the source of Eve (she came from his flesh and bon...

@StothersRyan I’m not reducing the meaning of v22-23, just saying that it cannot be hierarchical if v21 is mutual—and it is. The husband and wife are established by the first marriage where Adam was

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-18

@yxm84 @LilaGraceRose Yes, cursed is the *ground* and the serpent and animals. A

@yxm84 @LilaGraceRose Yes, cursed is the *ground* and the serpent and animals. Adam and Eve are not specifically cursed. Head can mean source or origin, and Paul is using it this way, not as leader.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-18

@ronhenzel @LynnCDell2 Then to help clarify she was deceived, Paul ties this married woman teaching false doctrine in with a similar situation from Eden showing that this problem is due to deception and ignorance like Eve and not out of knowledge lik...

@ronhenzel @LynnCDell2 Then to help clarify she was deceived, Paul ties this married woman teaching false doctrine in with a similar situation from Eden showing that this problem is due to deception a

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-18

@EvilBrady5959 @sovereignbrah No, Paul said that it has to do with the time order of creation, that Adam was formed first and Eve was the last thing formed. What happened in between those two points explains everything about this deception. See more ...

@EvilBrady5959 @sovereignbrah No, Paul said that it has to do with the time order of creation, that Adam was formed first and Eve was the last thing formed. What happened in between those two points e

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-18

@kingdomsheir7 @iLoveJaneAdams @sovereignbrah No, he was there. God says "because you listened to her voice" (Gen 3:17) and "and she also gave some to her husband with her" (Gen 3:6). Because he heard her voice and did nothing he was culpable. He had...

@kingdomsheir7 @iLoveJaneAdams @sovereignbrah No, he was there. God says "because you listened to her voice" (Gen 3:17) and "and she also gave some to her husband with her" (Gen 3:6). Because he heard

Gen 3:17 Gen 3:6 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-18

@sovereignbrah Here's more details about Genesis 2 and how God was creating anim

@sovereignbrah Here's more details about Genesis 2 and how God was creating animals and plants while Adam was watching. "...from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked." (L

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-18

@baste_goblin Paul's reference to 1Ti 2:14 was that the time order of creation h

@baste_goblin Paul's reference to 1Ti 2:14 was that the time order of creation has something to do with Eve being deceived and Adam not being deceived. More in the following post. https://t.co/bLWthwG

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-17

@LynnCDell2 @ronhenzel If you miss Paul’s connection with Adam and Eve and how death entered the human race then the Attic usage of “to commit murder of one’s kin by one’s own hand” seems out of place. You are assuming this is just about leadership t...

@LynnCDell2 @ronhenzel If you miss Paul’s connection with Adam and Eve and how death entered the human race then the Attic usage of “to commit murder of one’s kin by one’s own hand” seems out of place

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-14

@paulsfam4 @ABlakeWhite Rule in Gen 3:16 is not in the imperative like Gen 1:28 is when spoken of both the man and the woman. If Gen 1:28 is a command, then how is the woman to rule if the man rules her? Further, Gen 3:16 is not spoken directly to Ad...

@paulsfam4 @ABlakeWhite Rule in Gen 3:16 is not in the imperative like Gen 1:28 is when spoken of both the man and the woman. If Gen 1:28 is a command, then how is the woman to rule if the man rules h

Gen 1:28 Gen 3:16 Gen 3:16 commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-14

@ABlakeWhite God did not design a man to rule over his wife. How we interpret Gen 1-3 is very important to this discussion. I'm not sure how you understand the creation order in Gen 2, but God was creating animals in front of Adam such that Adam was ...

@ABlakeWhite God did not design a man to rule over his wife. How we interpret Gen 1-3 is very important to this discussion. I'm not sure how you understand the creation order in Gen 2, but God was cre

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-13

@TheWatchman1963 @VoicesHead100 @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @michael_ronning Kephale can mean “head” or “source/origin.” In this context, it is clear that it means origin since the husband and wife relationship is grounded in Adam and Eve’s relation...

@TheWatchman1963 @VoicesHead100 @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @michael_ronning Kephale can mean “head” or “source/origin.” In this context, it is clear that it means origin since the husband and wife r

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-11

@GnosisAdventum @paulsfam4 @MikeWingerii @DoctrinesofRad Adam and Eve were not c

@GnosisAdventum @paulsfam4 @MikeWingerii @DoctrinesofRad Adam and Eve were not cursed. Re-read the text.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-11

@theseedstruggle Paul says "For it was Adam who was created first" and "It was not Adam who was deceived." In Genesis 2, we have Adam watching as God created animals and brought them to him. This absolutely has to do with the time between Adam and Ev...

@theseedstruggle Paul says "For it was Adam who was created first" and "It was not Adam who was deceived." In Genesis 2, we have Adam watching as God created animals and brought them to him. This abso

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-09

@KimberleeJayneW @will_servant Yes, the ground was cursed, not Adam. There's a difference. Also notice, "Because you have listened to the voice of your wife..." Adam was right there. He heard her speaking to the Serpent and her repeating of the com...

@KimberleeJayneW @will_servant Yes, the ground was cursed, not Adam. There's a difference. Also notice, "Because you have listened to the voice of your wife..." Adam was right there. He heard her sp

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-07

@Richard89885354 Ok, here's my response to your first "argument"... 🦴Richard's Argument 1⃣: male authority in the church and headship in marriage is by "Creative design" (1 Tim 2:13; 1 Cor 11:9) 🍗Response (to 1 Tim 2:13): Paul is using Adam and Eve...

@Richard89885354 Ok, here's my response to your first "argument"... 🦴Richard's Argument 1⃣: male authority in the church and headship in marriage is by "Creative design" (1 Tim 2:13; 1 Cor 11:9) 🍗Re

1 Cor 11:9 1 Tim 2:13 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-06

@Richard89885354 @WordserviceDan @William_E_Wolfe The husband and wife relationship always goes back to the first man and woman. There we find that Eve was made from the bone and flesh of Adam, so he was her source (as well as God who created her). T...

@Richard89885354 @WordserviceDan @William_E_Wolfe The husband and wife relationship always goes back to the first man and woman. There we find that Eve was made from the bone and flesh of Adam, so he

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-01-20

@TheMuppetPastor @michellmybell1 *Correction— “…and neither was told to rule ove

@TheMuppetPastor @michellmybell1 *Correction— “…and neither was told to rule over the other until after the fall.” What I wrote there is not correct: God didn’t tell Adam to rule over Eve but prophes

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-01-19

@FreeThinkerAng @TheMuppetPastor Paul refers to the creation order between Adam and Eve and relates this to the fact that Eve was deceived but Adam was not. Paul is not using this to support relational hierarchy but to hone in on that first deceptio...

@FreeThinkerAng @TheMuppetPastor Paul refers to the creation order between Adam and Eve and relates this to the fact that Eve was deceived but Adam was not. Paul is not using this to support relation

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-01-16

@TheMuppetPastor @ZrimecSteve Wives don’t have a mediator though, they don’t need a second saviour figure either. Mutualists recognize that while Paul doesn’t state it in these passages, the source of the woman is also through Christ who formed Eve ...

@TheMuppetPastor @ZrimecSteve Wives don’t have a mediator though, they don’t need a second saviour figure either. Mutualists recognize that while Paul doesn’t state it in these passages, the source o

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-01-16

@UndyingLegend79 @TheMuppetPastor Take a second look—the ground was cursed and t

@UndyingLegend79 @TheMuppetPastor Take a second look—the ground was cursed and the serpent (and animals) were cursed, but no mention of curse of Adam or Eve. The word is not used. https://t.co/OLSzgw

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-01-16

Many think the first sin was Adam obeying Eve. This is not what Gen 3:17 says. Gen 3:17 (NASB 2020): "Then to Adam He said, 'Because you have *listened* to the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree...” Why was listening to her voice impo...

Many think the first sin was Adam obeying Eve. This is not what Gen 3:17 says. Gen 3:17 (NASB 2020): "Then to Adam He said, 'Because you have *listened* to the voice of your wife, and have eaten from

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-01-13

@florabelle444 @harmonizedgrace Not sure if this is tongue in cheek, but God does say to Adam in Gen 3:17, "because you heeded (or listened to) the voice of your wife..." This is not about Adam obeying Eve, but about him hearing the conversation and...

@florabelle444 @harmonizedgrace Not sure if this is tongue in cheek, but God does say to Adam in Gen 3:17, "because you heeded (or listened to) the voice of your wife..." This is not about Adam obeyi

Gen 3:17 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-01-05

As @MikeWingerii stated in his video series, how we see Genesis 2-3 is 99% of the debate! Mike sees Paul’s deliberate connection of the creation order with deception, but why isn’t he willing to entertain the idea that Adam wasn’t deceived because o...

As @MikeWingerii stated in his video series, how we see Genesis 2-3 is 99% of the debate! Mike sees Paul’s deliberate connection of the creation order with deception, but why isn’t he willing to ente

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-01-04

@Peacemaker811 @Eric_Conn Gen 2 is not a contradiction of Gen 1! Genesis is zoomed in showing us the perspective of details on day 6 related to the man and woman. It actually details that Adam experiences God in the act of creating plants and tre...

@Peacemaker811 @Eric_Conn Gen 2 is not a contradiction of Gen 1! Genesis is zoomed in showing us the perspective of details on day 6 related to the man and woman. It actually details that Adam exp

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-01-04

@Eric_Conn Genesis provides a timeline, not a primacy of the male. Otherwise the animals that were created before Adam would have the primacy over him. And just because Eve was created last doesn’t mean she has the primacy either. Yes, the woman w...

@Eric_Conn Genesis provides a timeline, not a primacy of the male. Otherwise the animals that were created before Adam would have the primacy over him. And just because Eve was created last doesn’t

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-01-02

@MarkGrote @Peacemaker811 @HbitsO @BethMooreLPM This assumes authentein means “usurp authority”—are men allowed to do that but women are not? Men are allowed hostile takeovers inspired by geneologies and false understanding of the law? Paul wasn’t ...

@MarkGrote @Peacemaker811 @HbitsO @BethMooreLPM This assumes authentein means “usurp authority”—are men allowed to do that but women are not? Men are allowed hostile takeovers inspired by geneologies

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-01-02

@reformedwifey That the wife is the glory of man (as Eve came from the flesh and

@reformedwifey That the wife is the glory of man (as Eve came from the flesh and bone of Adam), she is also the glory of God the same as man! The woman has two glories.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-01-02

@DelaKram75 @LipchakH I don’t believe it was because Eve was deceived first, but Eve was deceived because she was created last (according to 1 Tim 2:13-14). Reading Genesis 2 closely, we see that Adam saw God create animals, garden plants and trees ...

@DelaKram75 @LipchakH I don’t believe it was because Eve was deceived first, but Eve was deceived because she was created last (according to 1 Tim 2:13-14). Reading Genesis 2 closely, we see that Ada

1 Tim 2:13-14 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-29

@Prodigerli @MalcangiSarah 1 Tim 2:13-14 and the reference to Adam and Eve is descriptive of why one was deceived and one wasn't. It has to do with the timeline of creation. Adam was formed first, and a careful reading of Gen 2 reveals that Adam sa...

@Prodigerli @MalcangiSarah 1 Tim 2:13-14 and the reference to Adam and Eve is descriptive of why one was deceived and one wasn't. It has to do with the timeline of creation. Adam was formed first, a

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-29

@2samuel12 @_anandacaseyy The idea of the husband being the head of the wife is often misunderstood. I believe it is a mapping back to the first marriage which serves as the foundation for all marriages where Adam was literally the source of Eve bei...

@2samuel12 @_anandacaseyy The idea of the husband being the head of the wife is often misunderstood. I believe it is a mapping back to the first marriage which serves as the foundation for all marria

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-24

@9xix113 @JeremiahGofung Deception is tied to the timeline of creation. If you consider Genesis 2 carefully, you will find that God creates some animals in front of Adam and plants and causes to grow plants so that Adam has experience of God creatin...

@9xix113 @JeremiahGofung Deception is tied to the timeline of creation. If you consider Genesis 2 carefully, you will find that God creates some animals in front of Adam and plants and causes to grow

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-15

@DST_QA @sympatheticNPC "It was disobeying God by not being a disciple to his wife so that should would fully understand" This is close to what I see the text saying. God gave Adam more experience about Him than Eve and as a result expected him to ...

@DST_QA @sympatheticNPC "It was disobeying God by not being a disciple to his wife so that should would fully understand" This is close to what I see the text saying. God gave Adam more experience a

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-15

@DST_QA @sympatheticNPC Yes, authority needs to be given. We need to deal with the text and not add things in that are not there when authority is given in this very context to both Adam and Eve. God gave dominion to humans as an imperative in Gen ...

@DST_QA @sympatheticNPC Yes, authority needs to be given. We need to deal with the text and not add things in that are not there when authority is given in this very context to both Adam and Eve. Go

Gen 1:28 Gen 3:16 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-14

@sympatheticNPC Here’s the result of debating with GPT just now: In the context of Genesis 3:17, the phrase "listened to the voice of his wife" indeed presents a nuanced situation. Since the text does not record a direct verbal exchange between Eve ...

@sympatheticNPC Here’s the result of debating with GPT just now: In the context of Genesis 3:17, the phrase "listened to the voice of his wife" indeed presents a nuanced situation. Since the text doe

Genesis 3:17 commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-14

@sympatheticNPC Yes! God included specific details in this text for those earnestly seeking truth. Is there ever an end to these gems? 😅 This passage isn't about Eve undermining Adam’s authority, but rather highlights Adam's responsibility for hi...

@sympatheticNPC Yes! God included specific details in this text for those earnestly seeking truth. Is there ever an end to these gems? 😅 This passage isn't about Eve undermining Adam’s authority,

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-14

@jmmooreo Yes. Two things are going on here. Clearly they disobeyed. And from other scripture we know that Adam was held as responsible for bringing sin into the world as he was not deceived. But if only Adam **had actually listened to what Eve s...

@jmmooreo Yes. Two things are going on here. Clearly they disobeyed. And from other scripture we know that Adam was held as responsible for bringing sin into the world as he was not deceived. But

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-14

@chimpchompchamp But Eve’s “voice” merely repeated God’s command to them. She wasn’t speaking on her own authority **but reflecting God’s own words**. If Adam had actually listened to what she said, God would not have been upset, right? If a woman...

@chimpchompchamp But Eve’s “voice” merely repeated God’s command to them. She wasn’t speaking on her own authority **but reflecting God’s own words**. If Adam had actually listened to what she said,

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-14

“Then to Adam He said, ‘Because you have listened to the voice of your wife…’” (

“Then to Adam He said, ‘Because you have listened to the voice of your wife…’” (Gen 3:17) What did God mean by “listen to the *voice*”?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-13

@pauldirks @KaeleyT @DeeGoingsGirl No, that man and woman are solely in the image of God is clear. Also, Eve was in fact the very last thing created. While God created animals before Adam, He just created more in front of Adam. I suspect its femal...

@pauldirks @KaeleyT @DeeGoingsGirl No, that man and woman are solely in the image of God is clear. Also, Eve was in fact the very last thing created. While God created animals before Adam, He just c

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-12

@BentheButcher80 @Jayessaych @Dioko1462 @Brian_Sauve Each individual was required to account for their own personal responsibility. God did not say to Adam, “Adam, why didn’t you take your role of authority over Eve” but “Where are you? Who told yo...

@BentheButcher80 @Jayessaych @Dioko1462 @Brian_Sauve Each individual was required to account for their own personal responsibility. God did not say to Adam, “Adam, why didn’t you take your role of au

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-04

@IIIIIJOSHIIIII @smashbaals That response is getting tired. “The woman” is NOT Eve, but Eve is a prototype in that she was deceived while Adam was not. The situation in Ephesus mirrors that in the garden where a wife who is deceived and has left th...

@IIIIIJOSHIIIII @smashbaals That response is getting tired. “The woman” is NOT Eve, but Eve is a prototype in that she was deceived while Adam was not. The situation in Ephesus mirrors that in the g

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-03

@pastherandie @Pathfinder4545 @ChristVictorous @Brian_Sauve The question is what does the text mean by head, because Paul sees Adam as the head of Eve. Kephale has a range of meaning and the meaning intended is understood by the context. In this, t...

@pastherandie @Pathfinder4545 @ChristVictorous @Brian_Sauve The question is what does the text mean by head, because Paul sees Adam as the head of Eve. Kephale has a range of meaning and the meaning

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-03

@pastherandie @Pathfinder4545 @ChristVictorous @Brian_Sauve Yes! And from Adam’s own flesh making her literally part of his own body (which is why marriage is considered a one flesh union). The reason Paul refers to the creation order is not becaus...

@pastherandie @Pathfinder4545 @ChristVictorous @Brian_Sauve Yes! And from Adam’s own flesh making her literally part of his own body (which is why marriage is considered a one flesh union). The reas

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@ThandaM2 @Brian_Sauve No, there is no evidence of any gender roles, or ruling of the man over the woman or authority hierarchy in the minds of any that were present. God didn't say to Adam "Why didn't to take authority over your wife and make her o...

@ThandaM2 @Brian_Sauve No, there is no evidence of any gender roles, or ruling of the man over the woman or authority hierarchy in the minds of any that were present. God didn't say to Adam "Why didn

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