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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-19

@JoeAdrian256 Right, Mike says that women are not allowed to “teach authoritativ

@JoeAdrian256 Right, Mike says that women are not allowed to “teach authoritatively” (whatever that means), nor occupy the role of an elder, nor do anything to make it appear that they are acting in t

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-19

@SwordMasterPub It shows that an apostle can also be an elder/overseer/pastor.

@SwordMasterPub It shows that an apostle can also be an elder/overseer/pastor. Only Peter and John self identify as elders. Are there only two elders in the New Testament?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-19

@SwordMasterPub You have to refer to the Greek not the English. If Peter could

@SwordMasterPub You have to refer to the Greek not the English. If Peter could be an elder (1 Pe 5:1) then Paul certainly can. Paul functioned as an overseer of multiple churches.

1 Pe 5:1 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-19

@Whitehorse1255 @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii @soothkeep @JoelFKorytko @The_Idol_Killer @ProvisionistP @HwsEleutheroi @Soteriology101 @1984_nate My contention is that when we get to the original meaning that Paul had, we don't see that this passage for...

@Whitehorse1255 @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii @soothkeep @JoelFKorytko @The_Idol_Killer @ProvisionistP @HwsEleutheroi @Soteriology101 @1984_nate My contention is that when we get to the original meaning

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-19

@GlennDavies @SwordMasterPub Yes, I know you don't want to debate. I must have really upset you somehow that you had to correct me. I appreciate you jumping back in⎯even for a moment or two. Where does the text say that "Paul...appointed male elders...

@GlennDavies @SwordMasterPub Yes, I know you don't want to debate. I must have really upset you somehow that you had to correct me. I appreciate you jumping back in⎯even for a moment or two. Where do

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-18

@SwordMasterPub @Trish_NI How do you know that? Peter said he was an elder (1Pe

@SwordMasterPub @Trish_NI How do you know that? Peter said he was an elder (1Pe 5:1). Paul oversaw multiple churches, writing letters, making sure that they were healthy, etc. He remained in Ephesus f

1Pe 5:1 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-18

@SwordMasterPub 1. Yes, shepherding is a function of elders. 2. The male form is

@SwordMasterPub 1. Yes, shepherding is a function of elders. 2. The male form is often used when both male and female are in view. This is not a forbidding of women or the unmarried. 3. Your logic fai

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-16

@avyargo @plumlee_ann @MikeWingerii My church has women elders but your allegati

@avyargo @plumlee_ann @MikeWingerii My church has women elders but your allegation they are disobeying the Bible is false. Didn’t you know that falsely accusing someone of a sin is also a problem?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-15

@BarnabasBr30151 @EtAbundatGratia @mythreesonsb @MikeWingerii Paul doesn’t need

@BarnabasBr30151 @EtAbundatGratia @mythreesonsb @MikeWingerii Paul doesn’t need to be called an elder/overseer to evidently be one. It is more than evident by his actions and oversight of many church

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-15

@ronhenzel @JollyStine @peace_got @JosiahHawthorne @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii The

@ronhenzel @JollyStine @peace_got @JosiahHawthorne @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii There’s only two identified as elders and it’s Peter and John. The rest of the references we can’t be certain they are all

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-15

@avyargo @MikeWingerii This isn’t the same as Uzziah as there were explicit inst

@avyargo @MikeWingerii This isn’t the same as Uzziah as there were explicit instructions David disregarded. Show me the commandment prohibiting women from serving as elders or from preaching? Where’s

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-15

@iheartJ37 @peace_got @JollyStine @pastherandie @Robert_S_Morley @MargMowczko @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii Church discipline in Mat 18:15-20 doesn’t even mention the elders. Of course the elders would make good witnesses, but the church i...

@iheartJ37 @peace_got @JollyStine @pastherandie @Robert_S_Morley @MargMowczko @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii Church discipline in Mat 18:15-20 doesn’t even mention the elders. Of course the

Mat 18:15-20 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-15

@ChrisAndJones @MikeWingerii That’s correct. He only says Paul prohibits women from being elders or acting/speaking in such a way that they would be confused as elders. But that’s not what Paul is prohibiting. Paul’s personal letter to Timothy is to ...

@ChrisAndJones @MikeWingerii That’s correct. He only says Paul prohibits women from being elders or acting/speaking in such a way that they would be confused as elders. But that’s not what Paul is pro

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-15

@EtAbundatGratia @mythreesonsb @MikeWingerii You sounded like you know where wom

@EtAbundatGratia @mythreesonsb @MikeWingerii You sounded like you know where women are prohibited from being elders. I'm confused... Ok, here's how I parse it. https://t.co/QkexDUhLnJ

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-14

@EtAbundatGratia @mythreesonsb @MikeWingerii It is fairly normal in language to use the male construction if including both male and female. I can show you examples where aner, the word for male/husband is used to refer to person or people. To exclu...

@EtAbundatGratia @mythreesonsb @MikeWingerii It is fairly normal in language to use the male construction if including both male and female. I can show you examples where aner, the word for male/husba

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-14

@GyolaNevada @MikeWingerii It depends on why they went there. If they saw direct prohibitions on women and decided to disregard the Bible, then that bodes for more disregarding of the Bible. This is why it is important to for elders to really study a...

@GyolaNevada @MikeWingerii It depends on why they went there. If they saw direct prohibitions on women and decided to disregard the Bible, then that bodes for more disregarding of the Bible. This is w

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-14

@pastherandie @ScottCross_8 @peace_got @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeW

@pastherandie @ScottCross_8 @peace_got @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii My church is reformed and has female elders.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-14

@peace_got @ScottCross_8 @pastherandie @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii Elders are servants not masters to be served. Qualifying is related to character and ability. The only difference between elder and deacon is the ability to teac...

@peace_got @ScottCross_8 @pastherandie @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii Elders are servants not masters to be served. Qualifying is related to character and ability. The only differen

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-14

@peace_got @pastherandie @bezalelplace @MikeWingerii We also have a plurality of

@peace_got @pastherandie @bezalelplace @MikeWingerii We also have a plurality of elders who are all at the same level serving UNDERNEATH the body. They subject themselves and their desires to serve th

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-13

@_enigmafic_ @deweese_abram @MikeWingerii Where did Abram go? Abram said if my calling goes against scripture than my calling isn’t from God. But what appears to be disobeying God could be what’s wrong… You honesty think it’s a sin for a godly woma...

@_enigmafic_ @deweese_abram @MikeWingerii Where did Abram go? Abram said if my calling goes against scripture than my calling isn’t from God. But what appears to be disobeying God could be what’s wro

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-11

@slow_down_Jess @MikeWingerii You have to side with the word of God? I have news for you, so do I. I guess you've now heard only one side, Mike's side, right? There is no prohibition on female pastors/elders/overseers. That is not the intent by Paul...

@slow_down_Jess @MikeWingerii You have to side with the word of God? I have news for you, so do I. I guess you've now heard only one side, Mike's side, right? There is no prohibition on female pastor

1Ti 3:2 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-11

@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii Governmental authority? Where is that mentioned in the Bible? We have all what is necessary in scripture. Elders are to correct, rebuke, instruct and train up others. The church was not meant to form large gove...

@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii Governmental authority? Where is that mentioned in the Bible? We have all what is necessary in scripture. Elders are to correct, rebuke, instruct and train up o

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-11

@avyargo @AWoytuik @Torncurtainorg @MikeWingerii No he didn't. Where? What verse

@avyargo @AWoytuik @Torncurtainorg @MikeWingerii No he didn't. Where? What verse? Where's the imperative? Where does it say "an elder must not be a woman"?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-11

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii I don't care about what the Western world thinks. I care about what Jesus thinks since the church belongs to him. Your view of church history is skewed. Even the Waldensiens which were pre-Luther had women elder...

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii I don't care about what the Western world thinks. I care about what Jesus thinks since the church belongs to him. Your view of church history is skewed. Even the

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-11

@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii He never said women shouldn’t be senior

@Torncurtainorg @AWoytuik @MikeWingerii He never said women shouldn’t be senior pastors. He said women shouldn’t be pastors or elders. He doesn’t like using pastor and thinks we should just use elder

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-11

@aubriejwilliams @MikeWingerii You are not following my logic. I’m talking about Mike’s advising people to loudly leave, causing waves and taking people with them. If you prefer a male pastor and elders, then graciously and peacefully leave and go to...

@aubriejwilliams @MikeWingerii You are not following my logic. I’m talking about Mike’s advising people to loudly leave, causing waves and taking people with them. If you prefer a male pastor and elde

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-11

@Crystalisives @MichaelBerg888 Jesus didn't pick people to be sure they would be respected. He picked a tax collector! lol. Jesus does things for symbolic reasons. There are 12 sons of Jacob and so there are 12 apostles = 24 elders in Revelation. Th...

@Crystalisives @MichaelBerg888 Jesus didn't pick people to be sure they would be respected. He picked a tax collector! lol. Jesus does things for symbolic reasons. There are 12 sons of Jacob and so th

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-11

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii None of the 12 were Gentiles. Is your pastor a Gentile? The early church had issues fully accepting Gentiles too…you think it was different with women? Jesus picked 12 males for a reason not given. It certainly...

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii None of the 12 were Gentiles. Is your pastor a Gentile? The early church had issues fully accepting Gentiles too…you think it was different with women? Jesus pi

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-11

@Guitardo7 @PensiveJustin @MikeWingerii Did you notice the part about quietly an

@Guitardo7 @PensiveJustin @MikeWingerii Did you notice the part about quietly and peacefully without making waves and trying to take people out of the church with you? Without calling the pastor and e

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-11

@DrTPeck1 1) Yes, it is secondary. I believe that both complementarians and egalitarians can find some compromise and work together. Certainly at the denomination level, allowing some churches to be full egalitarian, and then some churches may just n...

@DrTPeck1 1) Yes, it is secondary. I believe that both complementarians and egalitarians can find some compromise and work together. Certainly at the denomination level, allowing some churches to be f

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-10

@MikeWingerii @Crystalisives @CherylSchatz @ryancduff @will_servant @CharmyRosewolf @Ichthusproject @bkr8un @pastherandie @JollyStine @jdpritchett Further, you recommended people to leave their egalitarian churches and make waves (be vocal, tell the ...

@MikeWingerii @Crystalisives @CherylSchatz @ryancduff @will_servant @CharmyRosewolf @Ichthusproject @bkr8un @pastherandie @JollyStine @jdpritchett Further, you recommended people to leave their egalit

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-09

@deadtosin610 @JollyStine Ok, but it doesn't make sense. How is the woman and th

@deadtosin610 @JollyStine Ok, but it doesn't make sense. How is the woman and the children possibly referring to the same thing? This sounds like commentators who don't want to admit that John was wri

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-09

@deadtosin610 @JollyStine If every mature brother and sister desired to be an el

@deadtosin610 @JollyStine If every mature brother and sister desired to be an elder, I'd be expecting a revival to be on the verge...

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-09

@deadtosin610 @JollyStine These functions are all overlapping. We use the term pastor, but this doesn't seem to be stated anywhere in the New Testament about anyone. It is a function, not a role. It seems that overseer (episkopos) and elder (presbyte...

@deadtosin610 @JollyStine These functions are all overlapping. We use the term pastor, but this doesn't seem to be stated anywhere in the New Testament about anyone. It is a function, not a role. It s

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-09

@JollyStine @deadtosin610 Paul also addresses the elders in Ephesus in Ac 20:17-

@JollyStine @deadtosin610 Paul also addresses the elders in Ephesus in Ac 20:17-35, but we don't know who they all are. He doesn't call them men.

Ac 20:17-35 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-09

@deadtosin610 1Ti 3:1-13 and Titus 1:5-9 are often mistakenly thought to forbid women from being overseers. However, the only phrase that people base this on is the idiom "one-wife-husband" used for elders and deacons. A neutral pronoun is used, "tis...

@deadtosin610 1Ti 3:1-13 and Titus 1:5-9 are often mistakenly thought to forbid women from being overseers. However, the only phrase that people base this on is the idiom "one-wife-husband" used for e

Titus 1:5-9 1Ti 3:1 1Ti 3:1-13 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-09

@AnonyNonni @OperHealAmerica We can get very used to only seeing men in certain roles that when a woman does it, it can feel wrong or out of place. But our feelings are not what ultimately should guide us. If the Bible doesn't prohibit a woman from b...

@AnonyNonni @OperHealAmerica We can get very used to only seeing men in certain roles that when a woman does it, it can feel wrong or out of place. But our feelings are not what ultimately should guid

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-09

@OperHealAmerica 1Ti 3:1-13 and Titus 1:5-9 do not prohibit women from being eld

@OperHealAmerica 1Ti 3:1-13 and Titus 1:5-9 do not prohibit women from being elders or overseers. https://t.co/QkexDUhLnJ

Titus 1:5-9 1Ti 3:1-13 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-09

@OperHealAmerica @RahabTheHarlot2 In what way precisely? So a woman can all her

@OperHealAmerica @RahabTheHarlot2 In what way precisely? So a woman can all her life be the voice of God to people by giving instruction to the king and judging matters and giving prophecies, but cann

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-09

@OperHealAmerica The Bible does not forbid women from being pastors or elders. h

@OperHealAmerica The Bible does not forbid women from being pastors or elders. https://t.co/zgtqLeTHX9

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-08

@JJacobs63985241 @Crystalisives @CherylSchatz @pastherandie @jdpritchett @MikeWi

@JJacobs63985241 @Crystalisives @CherylSchatz @pastherandie @jdpritchett @MikeWingerii Haha... well, I wasn't referring to sexual unions. I was meaning exclusively male leadership groups (like elder c

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-08

@GinaACleveland @MikeWingerii Hey, I disagree with Mike and I don't think he hat

@GinaACleveland @MikeWingerii Hey, I disagree with Mike and I don't think he hates women. He simply thinks that only men can be elders and speak "authoritatively." That's not the same as saying he hat

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

Mike says, “women should be involved in everything that isn’t functioning as an

Mike says, “women should be involved in everything that isn’t functioning as an elder does in teaching authority” [4:06:43] /90

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

Mike says, "there’s one thing a woman cannot do…is be a man” [4:03:20] Mike see

Mike says, "there’s one thing a woman cannot do…is be a man” [4:03:20] Mike sees man and elder as equal, that man is special creation at least when it comes to this life. He has no real explanation f

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

Mike lists a bunch of influential Biblical women acknowledging that they were ve

Mike lists a bunch of influential Biblical women acknowledging that they were very influential but then says that influence is not the same as Eldership. He says that women should teach and lead but

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

Mike asks, "what about women leading in prayer? As long as it is done in a way t

Mike asks, "what about women leading in prayer? As long as it is done in a way that is not 'elderly like'" [3:22:47] Well Mike has a problem here, because if a woman can prophecy, is he going to limi

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

Mike says that he is worried about theologically weak women who don’t talk about

Mike says that he is worried about theologically weak women who don’t talk about theology because they are scared to violate scripture. He wants them to talk about it and teach each other just not act

commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

Mike gives an example of a large crowd evangelism event where the focus is on th

Mike gives an example of a large crowd evangelism event where the focus is on the speaker "and them speaking authoritatively," saying that this should not be done by women. Seems to overlap into elder

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

For him it seems to come down to simply acting the part of an elder which he doe

For him it seems to come down to simply acting the part of an elder which he doesn't fully define. If teaching theology, then don't do it with authority; if correcting, then speak what you think but t

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

Mike asks, "Sunday school? Fine - not teaching men." Mike adds, "Food ministry?

Mike asks, "Sunday school? Fine - not teaching men." Mike adds, "Food ministry? Fine - nothing like elder role." /57

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