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@DrSSteele @smashbaals I thought we go back to the Bible? Do you not adhere to

@DrSSteele @smashbaals I thought we go back to the Bible? Do you not adhere to ‘sola scriptura’?

@taxpayer0011 @tradwifetoday @DrCurtisFreeman @BethMooreLPM @DukeChapel No, I mean the context of the passage. I’m not interested in bending scripture or conforming it to culture. Perhaps you are not aware but it takes strength and guts to do what ...

@taxpayer0011 @tradwifetoday @DrCurtisFreeman @BethMooreLPM @DukeChapel No, I mean the context of the passage. I’m not interested in bending scripture or conforming it to culture. Perhaps you are no

@DrSSteele @smashbaals Scripture matters 100%! Every word, all the context, the

@DrSSteele @smashbaals Scripture matters 100%! Every word, all the context, the grammar, the author and audience⎯all of it. What parts of scripture are you ignoring?

@IssaDegen @smashbaals It's Greek words, not Hebrew. The point is who the 'she' and 'they' are referring to in 1 Tim 2:15? If we can find the answer to that and make it make sense in the context and the rest of the grammar, we can understand what P...

@IssaDegen @smashbaals It's Greek words, not Hebrew. The point is who the 'she' and 'they' are referring to in 1 Tim 2:15? If we can find the answer to that and make it make sense in the context and

1 Tim 2:15 commentary

@CameronGunn1863 @twigsally @smashbaals This is a strange argument for someone s

@CameronGunn1863 @twigsally @smashbaals This is a strange argument for someone supposedly wanting everyone to follow the Bible. Does one's opinions matter based on where they are from or based on scr

@DrSSteele @smashbaals Where is gender role in the text? If its ordained by God, role should be there as that's what everyone thinks is so important. Primacy means that it's the males that must do all the leading, preaching, judging doctrine, overs...

@DrSSteele @smashbaals Where is gender role in the text? If its ordained by God, role should be there as that's what everyone thinks is so important. Primacy means that it's the males that must do a

@OrinRomine @ryancduff It doesn't say "women (plural) must not teach men (plural)" nor does it say "a woman (singular) must not teach men (plural)"⎯it says clearly "a woman/wife must not teach or 'authentein' a man/husband"⎯what this is referring to ...

@OrinRomine @ryancduff It doesn't say "women (plural) must not teach men (plural)" nor does it say "a woman (singular) must not teach men (plural)"⎯it says clearly "a woman/wife must not teach or 'aut

@OrinRomine @ryancduff Paul is dealing with false teaching and its affects on the Ephesian church. Men were using anger in their prayers probably complaining about false teaching, women were using outward adornments to show which one was holy and sh...

@OrinRomine @ryancduff Paul is dealing with false teaching and its affects on the Ephesian church. Men were using anger in their prayers probably complaining about false teaching, women were using ou

@tradwifetoday @taxpayer0011 @DrCurtisFreeman @BethMooreLPM @DukeChapel Of cours

@tradwifetoday @taxpayer0011 @DrCurtisFreeman @BethMooreLPM @DukeChapel Of course I believe in the plain words of the Bible. I believe what they plainly mean **in context**.

@taxpayer0011 @tradwifetoday @DrCurtisFreeman @BethMooreLPM @DukeChapel That is

@taxpayer0011 @tradwifetoday @DrCurtisFreeman @BethMooreLPM @DukeChapel That is a true statement. There is only one preacher in the photo.

@tradwifetoday @DrCurtisFreeman @BethMooreLPM @DukeChapel You might want to look

@tradwifetoday @DrCurtisFreeman @BethMooreLPM @DukeChapel You might want to look at his post again, because you'll observe 1 female preacher in that photo.

@oddlyadding @BrassVon @pauldirks @KaeleyT I think he meant property, as in for women who were their property. He disagrees — I think he is saying that men fight to defend the woman they love perhaps proving that it’s not about treating them as prop...

@oddlyadding @BrassVon @pauldirks @KaeleyT I think he meant property, as in for women who were their property. He disagrees — I think he is saying that men fight to defend the woman they love perhaps

@Pathfinder4545 @pastherandie @ChristVictorous @Brian_Sauve I appreciate you enc

@Pathfinder4545 @pastherandie @ChristVictorous @Brian_Sauve I appreciate you encouraging me to read my Bible. It just doesn’t move our conversation forward.

@Pathfinder4545 @pastherandie @ChristVictorous @Brian_Sauve Why use the word hea

@Pathfinder4545 @pastherandie @ChristVictorous @Brian_Sauve Why use the word head? The husband loves and leads. Yes, but does this mean the wife doesn’t love? Clearly not. The same reason why she

@pastherandie @lastadolphin @Brian_Sauve Leading is possible but this doesn’t mean authority over or the boss of or the final decision maker. Jesus says the greatest leader is the greatest slave. Ideally both lead in an equal partnership according ...

@pastherandie @lastadolphin @Brian_Sauve Leading is possible but this doesn’t mean authority over or the boss of or the final decision maker. Jesus says the greatest leader is the greatest slave. Id

@pastherandie @Pathfinder4545 @ChristVictorous @Brian_Sauve The question is what does the text mean by head, because Paul sees Adam as the head of Eve. Kephale has a range of meaning and the meaning intended is understood by the context. In this, t...

@pastherandie @Pathfinder4545 @ChristVictorous @Brian_Sauve The question is what does the text mean by head, because Paul sees Adam as the head of Eve. Kephale has a range of meaning and the meaning

@pastherandie @Pathfinder4545 @ChristVictorous @Brian_Sauve Yes! And from Adam’s own flesh making her literally part of his own body (which is why marriage is considered a one flesh union). The reason Paul refers to the creation order is not becaus...

@pastherandie @Pathfinder4545 @ChristVictorous @Brian_Sauve Yes! And from Adam’s own flesh making her literally part of his own body (which is why marriage is considered a one flesh union). The reas

@pastherandie @lastadolphin @Brian_Sauve This is actually the one instance where authority over the spouse is even mentioned! (I know of no other reference) "The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does; and likewise the...

@pastherandie @lastadolphin @Brian_Sauve This is actually the one instance where authority over the spouse is even mentioned! (I know of no other reference) "The wife does not have authority over he

@GlennDavies @KaeleyT @PrestonSprinkle I actually don’t think that the complementarian view leads to oppression of women necessarily. I have been part of several complementarian churches and they typically just reserved the lead pastoral role for a...

@GlennDavies @KaeleyT @PrestonSprinkle I actually don’t think that the complementarian view leads to oppression of women *necessarily.* I have been part of several complementarian churches and they ty

@smashbaals Men can literally: - Engage in unprotected sex, often avoiding its consequences - Consume porn, fueling the objectification of women - Claim authority over women, yet shirk responsibility for societal outcomes And when called to the car...

@smashbaals Men can literally: - Engage in unprotected sex, often avoiding its consequences - Consume porn, fueling the objectification of women - Claim authority over women, yet shirk responsibility

@IvanIvez440026 @lastadolphin @Brian_Sauve Let's test this theory out, shall we?

@IvanIvez440026 @lastadolphin @Brian_Sauve Let's test this theory out, shall we? Here's a command: stop suppressing women. I'm a man. I'm an elder. Will you listen? Or are you just not doing what

@Lovecraftian12 @smashbaals Where does the great commission exclude women from obeying all the commands Christ gave His apostles? Also⎯suggesting someone has to communicate without speaking was a way to see what your problem is with women. Then lik...

@Lovecraftian12 @smashbaals Where does the great commission exclude women from obeying all the commands Christ gave His apostles? Also⎯suggesting someone has to communicate without speaking was a way

@eclctve @Lovecraftian12 @smashbaals I like your response, I just don't think do

@eclctve @Lovecraftian12 @smashbaals I like your response, I just don't think dogmatic teaching is in view here. I don't listen to someone because they are dogmatic, I listen because they are communi

@jeanlesar @smashbaals It sounds like in your church, women are not trained to b

@jeanlesar @smashbaals It sounds like in your church, women are not trained to be good theologians and teachers. How is that working out? It also seems you don't have much exposure to women outside

@ThandaM2 @SarahHOC @lukepwilliams @Brian_Sauve By reading in context and not ju

@ThandaM2 @SarahHOC @lukepwilliams @Brian_Sauve By reading in context and not just blindly taking the English word in your own context, you will see that Paul is referring to source and origin, not au

@ronhenzel Why on earth does Paul need a generic woman when he could just make t

@ronhenzel Why on earth does Paul need a generic woman when he could just make the grammar simple and say "women will be saved through childbearing if they continue..."?

@ronhenzel @HwsEleutheroi If Paul has in mind a template which he uses to interject in a discussion of a particular woman, he most certainly can use the article in this way. I have contacted Wallace in the past...would you like me to reach out to hi...

@ronhenzel @HwsEleutheroi If Paul has in mind a template which he uses to interject in a discussion of a particular woman, he most certainly can use the article in this way. I have contacted Wallace

@ronhenzel @HwsEleutheroi However, in this case we have two anarthrous, "a woman" and "Eve" and one arthrous "the woman"⎯we have to determine who fits. They are both close and there is no hard and fast rule how close. Paul's context and grammar wil...

@ronhenzel @HwsEleutheroi However, in this case we have two anarthrous, "a woman" and "Eve" and one arthrous "the woman"⎯we have to determine who fits. They are both close and there is no hard and fa

@ronhenzel @HwsEleutheroi We have "a woman" who, if she exists in the church at Ephesus, can be the anarthrous which the article is being pointed to by the article. She also fits the grammar of v15: "She (the deceived wife teaching false doctrine) w...

@ronhenzel @HwsEleutheroi We have "a woman" who, if she exists in the church at Ephesus, can be the anarthrous which the article is being pointed to by the article. She also fits the grammar of v15:

@ThandaM2 @lukepwilliams @Brian_Sauve This idea that the husband is to represent God and the wife to represent humans is pretty serious because we are all flawed individuals. Anyone that thinks that they have the role of God in someone's life and ca...

@ThandaM2 @lukepwilliams @Brian_Sauve This idea that the husband is to represent God and the wife to represent humans is pretty serious because we are all flawed individuals. Anyone that thinks that

@GlennDavies @PrestonSprinkle Hi Glenn! I’m looking forward to the day we can meet. It’s always enriching to connect with fellow pastors in our area. Your comment about the failures of various prominent pastors caught my attention. While these insta...

@GlennDavies @PrestonSprinkle Hi Glenn! I’m looking forward to the day we can meet. It’s always enriching to connect with fellow pastors in our area. Your comment about the failures of various promin

@KaeleyT @GlennDavies @PrestonSprinkle I think Kaeley’s point cannot be ignored. We cannot lump all moral failings onto one side. I think its important to recognize that there are some who see the fact of women leading in scripture (albeit not as m...

@KaeleyT @GlennDavies @PrestonSprinkle I think Kaeley’s point cannot be ignored. We cannot lump all moral failings onto one side. I think its important to recognize that there are some who see the f

@Lovecraftian12 @smashbaals Let me guess…you want women to learn but not use tha

@Lovecraftian12 @smashbaals Let me guess…you want women to learn but not use that knowledge to benefit others? What if they didn’t move their lips but used sign language instead? Or would you be ok

@skafoure @Brian_Sauve I answered this one to a pastor friend of mine earlier.

@skafoure @Brian_Sauve I answered this one to a pastor friend of mine earlier. Take a look and let me know what you think. https://t.co/Sa6XjaqJkV

@here4thetrash @Brian_Sauve And what does a strong man look like? Does he rule

@here4thetrash @Brian_Sauve And what does a strong man look like? Does he rule over his wife?

@ThandaM2 @Brian_Sauve No, there is no evidence of any gender roles, or ruling of the man over the woman or authority hierarchy in the minds of any that were present. God didn't say to Adam "Why didn't to take authority over your wife and make her o...

@ThandaM2 @Brian_Sauve No, there is no evidence of any gender roles, or ruling of the man over the woman or authority hierarchy in the minds of any that were present. God didn't say to Adam "Why didn

@haymes_joshua Here's a comment I shared with a pastor friend of mine that you may find helpful. I don't deny male headship, I just use the context to show that the word doesn't mean authority but source. The only place authority between the husban...

@haymes_joshua Here's a comment I shared with a pastor friend of mine that you may find helpful. I don't deny male headship, I just use the context to show that the word doesn't mean authority but so

@RushiXmakima @MaryThurma27729 I agree with you that the church as it is especially in the west is unnecessarily fractured. I had a pastor tell me that I was welcome to become a member but since I disagreed with him on Calvinism, I would not be allo...

@RushiXmakima @MaryThurma27729 I agree with you that the church as it is especially in the west is unnecessarily fractured. I had a pastor tell me that I was welcome to become a member but since I di

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel I don't follow your logic here. Why does there need to be two prototypes? There is literally a specific unnamed deceived wife teaching false doctrine in the church at Ephesus. Eve is being used to show that the situation in ...

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel I don't follow your logic here. Why does there need to be two prototypes? There is literally a specific unnamed deceived wife teaching false doctrine in the church at Ephesus.

@ronhenzel The only meaning I'm twisting is the one you seemed to shoehorn into the text. Eve will be saved...if they continue in faith...? Who is the they? I think we have to take how Paul was using his words and not try to twist them to mean som...

@ronhenzel The only meaning I'm twisting is the one you seemed to shoehorn into the text. Eve will be saved...if they continue in faith...? Who is the they? I think we have to take how Paul was usi

@NewsJun68601116 @Brian_Sauve Where does the Bible speak about gender roles? Wh

@NewsJun68601116 @Brian_Sauve Where does the Bible speak about gender roles? Where is the word role even in the text? Why would a woman being a co-leader of her home with her husband—notice, both ar

@Brian_Sauve This is extremely divisive. You are blaming apostasy on women? Cultural decline due to “unchecked feminine sensibilities”? Because the husband fails to take control over his wife and make all the decisions? Doesn’t it occur to you th...

@Brian_Sauve This is extremely divisive. You are blaming apostasy on women? Cultural decline due to “unchecked feminine sensibilities”? Because the husband fails to take control over his wife and m

@NeilShenvi @MikeWingerii I see you listened on audio. As an egalitarian and someone who finds Mike very reasonable and charitable in how he deals with issues, I felt him mocking in this video. At any rate, he spends a lot of time tearing down Bell...

@NeilShenvi @MikeWingerii I see you listened on audio. As an egalitarian and someone who finds Mike very reasonable and charitable in how he deals with issues, I felt him mocking in this video. At a

@WWUTTcom Did you not look at my chart carefully? Paul uses particular grammar and if he wanted to say all women or plural women, he certainly knew how to do that. We also forget that the same word for woman is the same as wife and man the same as ...

@WWUTTcom Did you not look at my chart carefully? Paul uses particular grammar and if he wanted to say all women or plural women, he certainly knew how to do that. We also forget that the same word

@MaryThurma27729 @RushiXmakima You are correct that they are synonymous in scripture. They are used interchangeably. While one may oversee multiple churches, overseeing one church or multiple churches is still performing the same function but on a ...

@MaryThurma27729 @RushiXmakima You are correct that they are synonymous in scripture. They are used interchangeably. While one may oversee multiple churches, overseeing one church or multiple church

@ronhenzel Most people have never heard of this term, so to the average person...it's complicated. You have extensive training in Greek and years of teaching it, so for you this is a yawner. But yes, this is not unique to Greek. I'm glad you agree...

@ronhenzel Most people have never heard of this term, so to the average person...it's complicated. You have extensive training in Greek and years of teaching it, so for you this is a yawner. But yes

@ronhenzel Next time you talk to someone and mention your wife’s name, follow it up with “the woman” and then ask your wife what she thinks of that. Is this how we normally speak? “Tamara is coming…but the woman will be late”?? Ah, but we have ano...

@ronhenzel Next time you talk to someone and mention your wife’s name, follow it up with “the woman” and then ask your wife what she thinks of that. Is this how we normally speak? “Tamara is coming…

Our culture has messed with pronouns (see Dawkins’ post below for a she/they problem), but the Bible shouldn’t have this problem! In this case, it’s the verbs that are singular and plural. Houston, do we have a problem? 🤔 Can you answer my questi...

Our culture has messed with pronouns (see Dawkins’ post below for a she/they problem), but the Bible shouldn’t have this problem! In this case, it’s the *verbs* that are singular and plural. Houston

Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-30

In 1 Tim 2:15, who are the “she” and the “they” referring to? Options: 1. A generic woman / all women 2. Eve / all women 3. Women* / all women 4. A specific woman / her and her husband 5. Something else? *Note: some translations change the singula...

In 1 Tim 2:15, who are the “she” and the “they” referring to? Options: 1. A generic woman / all women 2. Eve / all women 3. Women* / all women 4. A specific woman / her and her husband 5. Something

1 Tim 2:15 question

@Duke456521 First, James White is most definitely not an egalitarian. But his grammar is right and people respect him (I am a nobody). The video is really short and only addresses this one point on the anaphoric use of the article. Second, how is ...

@Duke456521 First, James White is most definitely not an egalitarian. But his grammar is right and people respect him (I am a nobody). The video is really short and only addresses this one point on