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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-30

@ymmotrojam Paul’s not granting permission…he’s assuming they are and speaking a

@ymmotrojam Paul’s not granting permission…he’s assuming they are and speaking about head coverings while they are doing it. You are presuming that they could not pray without permission, but that is

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-30

@ronhenzel @ortrails @goteamcarr This commentator has no idea who the "she" and "they" are, misses Paul's reference to the 'seed of the woman, Eve' (ie. the childbearing⎯definite singular noun), and is hypothesizing about home roles. Paul is writing...

@ronhenzel @ortrails @goteamcarr This commentator has no idea who the "she" and "they" are, misses Paul's reference to the 'seed of the woman, Eve' (ie. the childbearing⎯definite singular noun), and i

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-30

Here’s how 1 Tim 2:10-15 works syntactically and contextually⎯ Paul is not referring to a typical woman or women in general, but instructing Timothy on how to deal with a specific unnamed deceived woman who⎯like her prototype "Eve"⎯is handing the "a...

Here’s how 1 Tim 2:10-15 works syntactically and contextually⎯ Paul is not referring to a typical woman or women in general, but instructing Timothy on how to deal with a specific unnamed deceived wo

1 Tim 2:10-15 commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-29

@smashbaals We have deprecated the importance and centrality of the Lord’s suppe

@smashbaals We have deprecated the importance and centrality of the Lord’s supper for His church. This doesn’t mean it’s required everytime, but why not? https://t.co/jRE9p10Z0f

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-29

@3HillsMinor @ymmotrojam @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Of course I have a pastor, it's not Winger but I do appreciate much of his work. There are female elders in my church (as you might expect). We are leaving the Reformed Church of Am...

@3HillsMinor @ymmotrojam @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Of course I have a pastor, it's not Winger but I do appreciate much of his work. There are female elders in my church (as you might

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-29

@ymmotrojam I am working on an exposition of 1 Cor 11:1-16. Paul is not commanding anything in verse 5. In verse 7, the words cut (κειράσθω) and cover (κατακαλυπτέσθω) are imperatives of toleration, ie. "let her cut" or "let her cover." The follow...

@ymmotrojam I am working on an exposition of 1 Cor 11:1-16. Paul is not commanding anything in verse 5. In verse 7, the words cut (κειράσθω) and cover (κατακαλυπτέσθω) are imperatives of toleration,

1 Cor 11:1-16 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-29

@ymmotrojam @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Listen, go find your favourite Greek scholar and tell them to come here and rebuke me. Does MacArthur do X? Piper is here. How about Grudem? Dr. White? Or just wait until I get d...

@ymmotrojam @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Listen, go find your favourite Greek scholar and tell them to come here and rebuke me. Does MacArthur do X? Piper is here. How abo

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-29

@ymmotrojam @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Asking for the word “role” is not a poor argument. It is an appropriate question, especially since you claim that this is what the passage is all about. Is a man to have the “role” o...

@ymmotrojam @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Asking for the word “role” is not a poor argument. It is an appropriate question, especially since you claim that this is what the pa

1 Tim 2:1 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-29

@ymmotrojam @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Tom! What are you doing? Paul says we are to emulate Christ who subjected Himself to being made in flesh like us to serve us even to death on a cross. The admonition is to go and d...

@ymmotrojam @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Tom! What are you doing? Paul says we are to emulate Christ who subjected Himself to being made in flesh like us to serve us even t

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-29

@3HillsMinor @ymmotrojam @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Rob, I appreciate you calling me a gentleman to Dr. White and for inducting me back into your life by unblocking me. What confession or creed is this in? Apostles' Creed? Nope. Nice...

@3HillsMinor @ymmotrojam @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Rob, I appreciate you calling me a gentleman to Dr. White and for inducting me back into your life by unblocking me. What confession

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-29

@3HillsMinor @ymmotrojam @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning I am not advo

@3HillsMinor @ymmotrojam @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning I am not advocating non-Christian doctrine. BTW, Ron Henzel really likes charts with Greek on them. I just need some time to get ba

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-29

@ymmotrojam @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning It's as simpl

@ymmotrojam @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning It's as simple as it needs to be to explain Paul's intent.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-29

@ymmotrojam @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning I am working on a chart and I’ll share that with you once I’m done. It might help to visualize the text to see how this explanation fits Paul’s argument perfectly. Also, if you don’...

@ymmotrojam @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning I am working on a chart and I’ll share that with you once I’m done. It might help to visualize the text to see how this explanation

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-29

@ymmotrojam @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Think about w

@ymmotrojam @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Think about what you wrote to me “You don’t need to delve into the Greek…”. Just think about that for another minute…. Why? Becaus

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-29

@ymmotrojam @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Do you talk when you are being taught, or do you not also listen silently? The point is not to do the “but…but…but…” stuff but listen for the whole explanation. Role is not in the G...

@ymmotrojam @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Do you talk when you are being taught, or do you not also listen silently? The point is not to do the “but…but…but…” stuff but liste

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-29

@ymmotrojam @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Rob blocked m

@ymmotrojam @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Rob blocked me. That should tell you something. Gender roles are what you are importing into the text. Show me roles in the Greek…

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-29

@ymmotrojam @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Except for si

@ymmotrojam @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Except for single women who Paul said shouldn’t seek to get married (1 Cor 7). Are they left lost and in danger of deception because

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-29

@ymmotrojam @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Adam and Eve were married. Can Paul not use them as prototypes to refer to an unnamed couple which just happens to be repeating a similar deception type of fall? Would Adam have eat...

@ymmotrojam @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Adam and Eve were married. Can Paul not use them as prototypes to refer to an unnamed couple which just happens to be repeating a si

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-29

@3HillsMinor @ymmotrojam @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Was Paul hims

@3HillsMinor @ymmotrojam @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Was Paul himself not qualified to be an overseer? 🤔

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-29

@ymmotrojam @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning “I don’t care

@ymmotrojam @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning “I don’t care…” I know. It’s hard to give up the kind of total control you take over your wife.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-29

@3HillsMinor @ymmotrojam @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Paul needs to

@3HillsMinor @ymmotrojam @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Paul needs to be a faithful husband? To whom?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-29

@ymmotrojam @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning What informat

@ymmotrojam @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning What information is absent? Paul doesn’t want to name a deceived woman in his letter. How might he refer to her so that Timothy wou

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-29

@3HillsMinor @ymmotrojam @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning I’ll answer t

@3HillsMinor @ymmotrojam @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning I’ll answer that after you show me how Paul himself was a husband.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-29

@3HillsMinor @ymmotrojam @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Now isn’t that interesting. So now it is disrespectful to use someone’s teaching on grammar if it supports my interpretation of another passage? 🤔 Listen, I know he doesn’t agree wi...

@3HillsMinor @ymmotrojam @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Now isn’t that interesting. So now it is disrespectful to use someone’s teaching on grammar if it supports my interpretation of anot

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-29

@ymmotrojam @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning 1 Timothy 3:15 (NASB95) 15 but in case I am delayed, I write so that you will know how one ought to conduct himself in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the...

@ymmotrojam @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning 1 Timothy 3:15 (NASB95) 15 but in case I am delayed, I write so that you will know how one ought to conduct himself in the household

1 Timothy 3:15 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-29

@ymmotrojam @Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 @kelcy_lowry So Paul is describing sal

@ymmotrojam @Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 @kelcy_lowry So Paul is describing salvation for women only? Since when is there a means of salvation for women different from men?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-29

@ymmotrojam @Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 @kelcy_lowry Mike’s position hasn’t fundamentally changed since he started commenting on 1 Tim 2:11-15 about 4 years ago. The major difference is he holds it much more strongly now, and he’s hopeful v15’s th...

@ymmotrojam @Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 @kelcy_lowry Mike’s position hasn’t fundamentally changed since he started commenting on 1 Tim 2:11-15 about 4 years ago. The major difference is he holds it

1 Tim 2:11-15 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-29

@ymmotrojam @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Tom. I'm not making this up. I'm just describing the grammar. A particular deceived woman is simply noting that Paul moves from plural "all women" to "a woman/wife" and in v14 says...

@ymmotrojam @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Tom. I'm not making this up. I'm just describing the grammar. A particular deceived woman is simply noting that Paul moves from pl

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-29

@3HillsMinor @Deigratia1985 Why would God want His church to split over something so trivial as whether true doctrine was spoken by a godly female vessel? I am on side with you about the acceptance of sin being a problem, but I’m just saying I don’t...

@3HillsMinor @Deigratia1985 Why would God want His church to split over something so trivial as whether true doctrine was spoken by a godly female vessel? I am on side with you about the acceptance o

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-28

@Deigratia1985 @3HillsMinor I had to intervene when my church almost split over

@Deigratia1985 @3HillsMinor I had to intervene when my church almost split over this issue. When the SBC started kicking out churches, that was the final straw.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-28

@Deigratia1985 @3HillsMinor Being able to share a view clearly and succinctly doesn't make it correct. 4 years ago, Mike gave his view of 1 Tim 2:11-15 in 11 minutes in a Q&A. That's what succinct looks like⎯not 11.5 hours. But yes, Mike was s...

@Deigratia1985 @3HillsMinor Being able to share a view clearly and succinctly doesn't make it correct. 4 years ago, Mike gave his view of 1 Tim 2:11-15 in 11 minutes in a Q&A. That's what succin

1 Tim 2:11-15 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-28

@Deigratia1985 @SimonReye @hashim_warren @Duke456521 @MikeWingerii I look forward to seeing whatever evidence you have. I’d also like to know what personal benefit you think I gain by being attacked all day long defending the right of women to be tr...

@Deigratia1985 @SimonReye @hashim_warren @Duke456521 @MikeWingerii I look forward to seeing whatever evidence you have. I’d also like to know what personal benefit you think I gain by being attacked

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-28

@Deigratia1985 @MikeWingerii @SimonReye @hashim_warren @Duke456521 You are making up your own definition. A heresy is a false teaching. Everyone who teaches is likely teaching something that’s false. However, a heretic (outside of the Christian fa...

@Deigratia1985 @MikeWingerii @SimonReye @hashim_warren @Duke456521 You are making up your own definition. A heresy is a false teaching. Everyone who teaches is likely teaching something that’s false

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-28

@ymmotrojam @Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 @kelcy_lowry So “she (singular)” and “they (plural)” are referring to the same group? To individual typical women in the church? Where does Paul ever use the plural to refer to individuals? Most single/bar...

@ymmotrojam @Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 @kelcy_lowry So “she (singular)” and “they (plural)” are referring to the same group? To individual typical women in the church? Where does Paul ever use th

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-28

@ymmotrojam @Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 @kelcy_lowry How do you know that “She (singular, feminine)” represents believers? If she will be saved like we all will be saved one day, why not make a general statement about all believers? I’m pretty su...

@ymmotrojam @Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 @kelcy_lowry How do you know that “She (singular, feminine)” represents believers? If she will be saved like we all will be saved one day, why not make a gen

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-28

@ymmotrojam @Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 @kelcy_lowry Because of the grammar…. If she is Eve, then “Eve will be saved (future) if they [do something].” Eve’s salvation cannot be conditioned on something other people do at the time Paul was writing ...

@ymmotrojam @Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 @kelcy_lowry Because of the grammar…. If she is Eve, then “Eve will be saved (future) if they [do something].” Eve’s salvation cannot be conditioned on somet

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-27

@Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam @kelcy_lowry Want to take a stab? After all, this is really clear stuff. Verse 15 summarizes the section starting at verse 11 and refers to salvation. It’s pretty important to understand Paul’s conclusion ...

@Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam @kelcy_lowry Want to take a stab? After all, this is really clear stuff. Verse 15 summarizes the section starting at verse 11 and refers to salvation. It’s

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-27

@RisingDisciples What does God’s wrath have to do with persecution from men? The West hasn’t seen real persecution in a long time, but I’m fully aware what happened to all the apostles and many, many, many over the years who were tortured. I can re...

@RisingDisciples What does God’s wrath have to do with persecution from men? The West hasn’t seen real persecution in a long time, but I’m fully aware what happened to all the apostles and many, many

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-27

@Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam @kelcy_lowry This is not a game for me. I still want to know who R.D. James is. Let’s start with explaining 1 Tim 2:15. - Who is the she (singular)? - Who are they (plural)? - What is “the (definite) child...

@Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam @kelcy_lowry This is not a game for me. I still want to know who R.D. James is. Let’s start with explaining 1 Tim 2:15. - Who is the she (singular)? - Who

1 Tim 2:15 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-27

@3HillsMinor @Deigratia1985 Loving Mormons, JW’s and Muslims means patiently helping them come to the knowledge of the truth, showing it from different angles, asking different questions…explaining things. If you think 1 Tim 2:12 is so clear then pl...

@3HillsMinor @Deigratia1985 Loving Mormons, JW’s and Muslims means patiently helping them come to the knowledge of the truth, showing it from different angles, asking different questions…explaining th

1 Tim 2:12 commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-27

@Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam @kelcy_lowry How is one to correct false teaching without being labeled the serpent? Don’t you point them back to the text? Don’t you ask if the text really says what they think it does and re-read it to s...

@Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam @kelcy_lowry How is one to correct false teaching without being labeled the serpent? Don’t you point them back to the text? Don’t you ask if the text reall

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-27

@3HillsMinor @Deigratia1985 It doesn’t go against the teachings of Paul, but there may be some disagreement in church history no doubt. The pre-Luther Waldensiens accepted women as leaders and pastors, but they weren’t the mainstream. Luther disagr...

@3HillsMinor @Deigratia1985 It doesn’t go against the teachings of Paul, but there may be some disagreement in church history no doubt. The pre-Luther Waldensiens accepted women as leaders and pastor

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-27

@Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam @kelcy_lowry Is questioning one’s interpretation of the Bible sowing doubt? I don’t even get that response from Mormons when I challenge them. Sometimes we have had conversations multiple times a week going...

@Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam @kelcy_lowry Is questioning one’s interpretation of the Bible sowing doubt? I don’t even get that response from Mormons when I challenge them. Sometimes we

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-27

@bezalelplace @Deigratia1985 @ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 Those are certainly good questions! I even have to remind my wife that the only ones that know my motives are God, myself and those whom I reveal them to. We should always assume pure motives ...

@bezalelplace @Deigratia1985 @ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 Those are certainly good questions! I even have to remind my wife that the only ones that know my motives are God, myself and those whom I reve

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-27

@3HillsMinor @Deigratia1985 Hi Rob! Thanks for chiming in again. I think we’ve

@3HillsMinor @Deigratia1985 Hi Rob! Thanks for chiming in again. I think we’ve been here before. Anything specific you want to challenge me on from scripture?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-27

I’m meeting people who feel like gender roles are connected to the gospel and that the husband having authority over the wife in a marriage demonstrates God’s order to the world. I think this is a misunderstanding of the scriptures. The following m...

I’m meeting people who feel like gender roles are connected to the gospel and that the husband having authority over the wife in a marriage demonstrates God’s order to the world. I think this is a mi

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-27

@ymmotrojam @Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 Using scripture to help decide is great. I wasn’t trying to pick any particular decision per se, but the idea that in a disagreement, your desires are prioritized over those of your wife’s. So ultimately ...

@ymmotrojam @Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 Using scripture to help decide is great. I wasn’t trying to pick any particular decision per se, but the idea that in a disagreement, your desires are priori

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-27

@kelcy_lowry @ymmotrojam @Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 Are you following the Bib

@kelcy_lowry @ymmotrojam @Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 Are you following the Bible?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-27

@kelcy_lowry @ymmotrojam @Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 All I’m doing is emulatin

@kelcy_lowry @ymmotrojam @Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 All I’m doing is emulating Jesus. So what I’m proposing is simply what I see Jesus (and Paul) calling me to. I choose to cast my lots with Jesu

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-27

@ymmotrojam @Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 Can you give me an idea of how this authority plays out for you? - She wants another child, you don’t. You talk about it, but still disagree. What do you do? - She does NOT want another child, you DO. You ...

@ymmotrojam @Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 Can you give me an idea of how this authority plays out for you? - She wants another child, you don’t. You talk about it, but still disagree. What do you do

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