Martin Willemeos Hansen

Paula you wrote in post 27 ‘There is a phrase in ch. 2 that means “in keeping with their appointment”’, where do you see that phrase and do you have more information about it, references etc.?

In Him,
Martin

Cheryl, you said in post 21:
“Why is there no mention of a Gentile overseer? Why is there no mention of a slave having the work of an overseer? Does the fact that the scriptures have no mention of these kinds of overseers mean that they are not part of the “anyone” from verse 1?”

No, at thats not the point I’m trying to make, slaves or gentiles in particular is not mentioned in verses 8-13, but women is. I’m just wondering why Paul didn’t mention women in particular in verses 1-7.

Paula, you mentioned Titus 2 in post 20, as an example of women elders ‘presbytis’. Men elders are also mentioned ‘presbyt?s’ and elders in general ‘presbyteros’ are mentioned in Titus 1:5. I’m no Greek scholar, but if there is women elders, how would one refer to them in Greek? Would it not be by the word ‘presbytis’? Also the context seems to indicate that Titus should point out able Elders and what character traits he should be looking for, both in 1:1-9 and what he should avoid 1:10-16, and then what he should teach these elders 2:1-5.

How do complementarians argue that ‘presbyteros’ does not include ‘presbytis’?

In His amazing grace,
Martin

Hi everybody!

I was wondering why women are only mentioned in verse 11, in the context of deacons and not mentioned in the verses before, where the context is about overseer?

We know that without doubt there was women deacons in the Scripture Rom 16:1, and that goes well in hand with 1 Tim 3:11. But the Scripture lacks a direct mention of a women overseer and that goes hand in hand with the non mention of women in the context of overseer in 1 Tim 3:1-7.

Have anyone thought about this?

In His amazing grace,
Martin