Michael Terran

I just signed up and posted my comment on Matt’s site Defending My/Our dear sister Cheryl! What I posted is below because I have a feeling he won’t post my comment! You are all my witnesses to what I have typed so it can’t be cut apart or taken out of Context!

Cheryl is NOT a “heretic”! You shouldn’t be a Pastor Matt you were so rude on the radio. I can sense alot of Pride,Anger, Unreasonableness in you,Quality’s a Teacher/Leader should NEVER be found in!

You like to read into scripture and make it say things it doesn’t. I don’t know you from Adam and when I heard you on the radio for the first time,your attitude was so pagan I was shocked that your are a pastor!

An you won’t even let her come back to explain Her side of the issue even after she agreed to your
“restrictions”! You want one word yes & no answers but the Yes & No answers Musted be explained and it’s CONTEXT so we can understand why a answer is Yes & No! You kept cutting off Cheryl.

If you post this comment that will suprise me! I’ve heard your not posting any postive comments on Cheryl on your blog only people who agree with your side?

Why not present BOTH views an let the person (Christian)/listern make there own choice on this matter with the help of The Holy Spirit. The way you hidden things like comments etc on your blog and your reading your own throughts/words into scripture, your no different then a cult!

Thanks for reading, Oh an remember your going to have to answer to Christ on this matter!All will be judged!

Paul Burleson,

I totally agree with you! On the opposing view I find they read so much into the text and make it say something that just isn’t there. When I saw the video “Women In Ministry…” I was like that’s it! Str8 from the TEXT alone! Scripture is Light, so Light reveals Light and exposes what’s in the Dark! Scripture said we have to righty divide the Word of Truth, an Cheryl has done that.

In my spirit I see Cheryl teaching as Humble,Meek,Truthful. The otherside I see Pride,Anger,Bondage, unreasonableness etc. They sound like Pharisees, I’m not doubting there salvation pre-say but it makes me wonder sometimes.

We read in scripture how the legalist were spying out there ( THE EARLY CHRUCH) Liberty! Alot had to do with the women! When they saw them Learning,Teaching,Preaching equally with the men, they wanted to stop it! That’s my understanding of scripture!
It’s funny Jesus Never told a women she can’t learn,teach,preach! Or that she has a different funtion!

John 8:3
And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him A WOMAN taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,
John 8:2-4 (in Context) John 8 (Whole Chapter)

notice the woman is brought to be judged or killed by stoning yet were is the man? Under the law BOTH woman & man were stoned to death for adultery not just one sex! It goes to show the pharisees and we also see this today, how far off they were with God and his Word, that they just wanted to use the scripture/bible to control people and make it say things it doesn’t like matt was trying to do! But if you don’t know your bible people will try an get away with stuff like this, history repeats itself! Matt sounded like a pharisee, I got a flash back of the JW’s when I heard him on the radio clip!

When paul told Timothy to “Silence” her it was just on her false teaching, not a total silence, she could still say hello and how are you and asks meaningful questions, quoting the false error she was taught then being silence to receive the correcting of Truth, just like how we learned in high school today.

And Give an update on her even let her share to the church how she has learned The Faith and even thank Paul & Timothy and God for correcting her! What a testimony for all churches!

No mention of them else were in scripture, so maybe this matter/ sitution in time was corrected! Just like Adam & Eve by there actions they put faith in God. Adam calling the woman Eve meaning Life or life bearer, putting faith in the prophesy. Eve praising God for giving birth. In the orig. Herbrew the wording is such that she must have throught cain was the promise seed but as we know time proved he wasn’t. Put the bottom line is Adam & Eve were saved. Plus God killed an animal (Must have been a Lamb) an clothed them BOTH.

I hope this understanding helps.

Matt doesn’t even want to explain about what paul said!

We are all guilty before God and need Christ! We see from ALL of scripture on Saul/Paul how God dealt with him. He knew how saul got to that point and only God knew how to correct him an make him Paul!

Now on Tim.
Adam and Eve were Husband an Wife. There was a problem in that church that was just like what happen in the garden. Adam knew his wife didn’t have the whole thing yet he let his untaught wife be tricked! That man or husband needs to school her his wife in truth of God’s word because he (a man/the husband) is educated the wife or woman is not and needs to learn.

He (matt) was very rude, he didn’t want to listen to you but because it was on the radio he “tried”/”Pretend” to be understanding but wasn’t. Matt sounded like a big bully and then stated to attack You as a person instead of the issue! I Don’t find matt answer any good!

as for (a woman) the woman would have to ask meaningful questions about her error so she can be corrected!

THE KEY PHRASE IS “A WOMAN” MEANING “ONE” WOMAN! WE SEE A PATTERN HERE FROM GOD ON GRAMMER!

Luke 8:43
And A WOMAN having an issue of blood twelve years, which had spent all her living upon physicians, neither could be healed of any,
Luke 8:42-44 (in Context) Luke 8 (Whole Chapter)

Luke 13:11
And, behold, there was A WOMAN which had a spirit of infirmity eighteen years, and was bowed together, and could in no wise lift up herself.
Luke 13:10-12 (in Context) Luke 13 (Whole Chapter)

John 8:3
And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him A WOMAN taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,
John 8:2-4 (in Context) John 8 (Whole Chapter)

We do see God using Female imagery like breast & womb to show different aspects of himself etc. Also female imagery for the church of all believers as well (male & female)…The Bride Of Christ!

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Is God Male?
by Bert Thompson, Ph.D.

I read this article on Is God Male? I posted two comments on this article. It is long so I’m only posting what I commented on, ok!

1. Spirits—because they are non-corporeal beings—have no physical body and thus by definition are incapable of possessing gender. In speaking of the humans who one day will inhabit the heavenly realm, Jesus remarked that they “neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are as angels” (Matthew 22:30). His point was that we shall not take up our earthly gender roles in heaven, just as the angels, as spirit beings, have played no gender roles throughout their existence. Similarly, God, as a Spirit Being Who inhabits the heavenly realm, has no gender.

(My comment on this statement:) There are no gender Roles/ a good book to read is Beyond Sex Roles, God is not a respecter of persons etc. The HOLY SPIRIT fell on all Acts 2.

The Angels I don’t think are sexless, we know they can take on male human form from scripture! Also that demon or demons apparition of Mary, is an evil spirit/s pretending to be Mary…a woman! so they can “appear” female in a spirit/ghostly like sense. There are things about the angels we don’t know. But we do know that they are all single, not given in marriage! We don’t lose our gender in heaven because we our in God’s image Man (Male & Female). “Like the angels” not we are angels or will become angels!

2. Why, then, if God has no gender, do the Scriptures refer to Him via masculine names and metaphors? And must we refer to Him via masculine names and metaphors?
   The answer to the first question has to do with both history and authority. From a historical standpoint, the fact is that every known ancient religion—except one—posited both gods and goddesses as beings worthy of worship. The lone exception was Judaism. Kreeft and Tacelli, in their Handbook of Christian Apologetics, addressed this matter when they wrote:

The Jewish revelation was distinctive in its exclusively masculine pronoun because it was distinctive in its theology of the divine transcendence. That seems to be the main point of the masculine imagery. As a man comes into a woman from without to make her pregnant, so God creates the universe from without rather than birthing it from within and impregnates our souls with grace or supernatural life from without. As a woman cannot impregnate herself, so the universe cannot create itself, nor can the soul redeem itself. Surely there is an inherent connection between these two radically distinctive features of the…biblical religions…: their unique view of a transcendent God creating nature out of nothing and their refusal to call God “she” despite the fact that Scripture ascribes to him feminine attributes like compassionate nursing (Is. 49:15), motherly comfort (Is. 66:13) and carrying an infant (Is. 46:3). The masculine pronoun safeguards (1) the transcendence of God against the illusion that nature is born from God as a mother rather than created and (2) the grace of God against the illusion that we can somehow save ourselves—two illusions ubiquitous and inevitable in the history of religion (1994, p. 98, emp. in orig.).

(My Comment on this statement:)This is very helpful. God uses He/Father so noone can say God birthed himself or He had a beginning,because God has no beginning or end! The Goddess cults & gonostic’s were teaching strange stuff Myths etc. Just Read the books of Tim..

To Cheryl,

Thank you for taking me a man under your wing, your one of my spiritual mothers in The Faith. When you speak it’s all of the spirit, very simple even a little child can understand. I pray that the Lord raises up more women who have the gift of teaching. An as a man I humble myself under your Godly Truthful Teaching of scripture,Happily! My spirit is happy that I found the right understand of these important scriptures thanks to yourself. The Lord is truly lending/guiding you greatly. I love how you were able to tie in what Paul said in Philippians 3:1 ! It all just flowed like living water, The Lord has used a woman to refresh my spirit! Let this be recorded for all of History! Amen!