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Egalitarian quotes: Belleville, Keener, and Payne all argue that Gen 3:16 is descriptive of fallen conditions, not prescriptive, and should not be enforced by church rules.

Was Women's Submission Just a Curse to Be Overturned? Women in Ministry part 2 02:01:13 – 02:02:15

Egalitarian argument: the curse should be overturned, not propagated

Linda Belleville says what's normative is Gen 1:27 and 2:23-24 (image of God, one flesh), not Gen 3:16. Craig Keener says Eve's subordination is part of the curse and 'like other aspects of the curse -- labor pains, toil, sin, death -- does not need to be praised and enforced by church rules.' Philip Payne says since Satan has been cast down and Christ has begun the new creation, 'life in Christ's kingdom should not perpetuate the curse of the fall.'

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A 14-Point Biblical Case for Women Leaders and Teachers And Why Mike Winger, The Gospel Coalition, and the Southern Baptists Are Wrong About This

A 14-point biblical case for women leaders and teachers, responding to Mike Winger, The Gospel Coalition, and the Southern Baptists

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Did God Give Up On The Woman

Many people think that God was especially hard on Eve after she was deceived by the serpent in the garden. In fact hierarchists have determined that God was so hard on Eve by punishing her with a multitude of lashes for her sin, that some might get the idea that God punished the one who was deceived

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@Wictor2501 @DarkVanTil @McMuffin11111 @Eric_Conn @iliketopreach Gen 3:16 doesn’

@Wictor2501 @DarkVanTil @McMuffin11111 @Eric_Conn @iliketopreach Gen 3:16 doesn’t say “and thy desire shall be to RULE thy husband…” Why does everyone insert rule there? God prophesies that Eve won’t

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What Winger Presently Gets Wrong: The Head Covering Debates (1 Cor 11)

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 10 on the head covering debates in 1 Corinthians 11

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Neopatriarch Once Again Fails To Refute Cheryl Schatz

## Challenging my position that 1 Timothy 2:15 is a single woman

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This is the sixth in a series of simulated interviews with the Apostle Paul taken from the position of what he might say if we could transport Paul from the New Testament account through a time tunnel into our present day

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