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Mike's key rebuttal: the egalitarian 'curse reversal' argument depends entirely on Genesis 2 having NO authority differences -- but Genesis 2 clearly does, so the argument fails.

Was Women's Submission Just a Curse to Be Overturned？ Women in Ministry part 2 02:02:15 – 02:03:15

Why the egalitarian curse-reversal argument fails

Mike argues that all egalitarian 'curse reversal' arguments depend on the premise that Genesis 2 contains no authority difference between Adam and Eve. Since Mike has shown Genesis 2 does contain such indications (creation order, naming, Eve made for Adam), the egalitarian interpretation of Genesis 3:16 as purely a curse to be overturned collapses. If pre-fall design included authority differences, the curse can't be the origin of that authority.
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Scripture Commentary article

Eph 5:22 and Mutual Submission

The mutual and reciprocal nature of hypotasso in Eph 5:21 makes a hierarchical reading of v22 semantically incoherent. Paul cannot establish one-to-another voluntary submission and then immediately mean one-directional hierarchy without breaking the logic of his own passage.
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What Winger Presently Gets Wrong: The Head Covering Debates (1 Cor 11)

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 10 on the head covering debates in 1 Corinthians 11
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Comp View Of 1Cor11 Mark

This post is a first. I have never before taken the writing of a complementarian and posted it on my blog
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A 14-Point Biblical Case for Women Leaders and Teachers And Why Mike Winger, The Gospel Coalition, and the Southern Baptists Are Wrong About This

A 14-point biblical case for women leaders and teachers, responding to Mike Winger, The Gospel Coalition, and the Southern Baptists
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Did God Give Up On The Woman

Many people think that God was especially hard on Eve after she was deceived by the serpent in the garden. In fact hierarchists have determined that God was so hard on Eve by punishing her with a multitude of lashes for her sin, that some might get the idea that God punished the one who was deceived
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@Wictor2501 @DarkVanTil @McMuffin11111 @Eric_Conn @iliketopreach Gen 3:16 doesn’

@Wictor2501 @DarkVanTil @McMuffin11111 @Eric_Conn @iliketopreach Gen 3:16 doesn’t say “and thy desire shall be to RULE thy husband…” Why does everyone insert rule there? God prophesies that Eve won’t

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Was Women's Submission Just a Curse to Be Overturned？ Women in Ministry part 2 @ 02:02:15

2022-03-14

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