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Winger holds that faith is not a work (the Bible says so), but is a choice to trust; Sye argues the Bible's statement that faith is not a work does not resolve the logical problem if faith is something you do

Does Presup Apologetics Have a Biblical Foundation? Mike Winger vs Sye Ten Bruggencate 01:05:30 – 01:07:03

Core soteriological exchange

Winger: The Bible explicitly says faith is not a work (Romans 4, Eph 2). Therefore, however faith works, it is not a work. Sye: You cannot simply relabel an action as non-work because of a prooftext — that is logically fallacious. If faith is not a gift from God but a choice you make, the logical consequence is that it is a work, regardless of the label. The question 'what makes you different from your neighbor who didn't believe?' has only two answers: what you did, or what God did.

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