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Paul's instructions on tongues and prophecy require self-control, proving the Spirit does not override the person's will

20 Questions with Pastor Mike (Episode 6) 00:47:00 – 00:48:27

Continuing the argument against slain in the Spirit using 1 Corinthians 14 as evidence

In 1 Corinthians 14, Paul regulates tongues-speaking: only two or three at a gathering, each waits for the other, only if there is an interpreter. These regulations are only coherent if the speaker has volitional control. Paul explicitly says the spirit of the prophet is subject to the prophet (1 Cor 14:32). Prophecy likewise has regulations that only work if the prophesying person is in self-control. Therefore the Spirit does not make you lose control — the Spirit's gifts operate within the framework of the person's self-governance.
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@Ashwin_Vengayil @EricisAmerican @Protestia What you stated there seems fine, but the idea of being "slain in the spirit" where people lay hands on others and they fall back is not something we see anywhere in scripture. The only instance of falling ...

@Ashwin_Vengayil @EricisAmerican @Protestia What you stated there seems fine, but the idea of being "slain in the spirit" where people lay hands on others and they fall back is not something we see an

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20 Questions with Pastor Mike (Episode 6) @ 00:47:00

2020-10-02

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1 Corinthians 14 1 Corinthians 14:32 prophecy self-control charismatic gifts tongues slain in the Spirit
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