Mike comments on Ben Shapiro, affirming that his biblical worldview on moral values is refreshing but warning Christians not to imitate his sarcastic and vitriolic tone toward those he disagrees with.

Mike limits his political engagement but says he has listened to Shapiro during election cycles and finds his moral worldview basically biblical. He is entertained by Shapiro but warns that consistent sarcasm toward opponents will backfire and is not becoming of a Christian, even if the content is correct.