Mark

Wow Cheryl i cant keep.

Let me make a proposal because there are some real issues here. Why don’t we slow down and actually look at passages exegetically and in context rather than just proof texting.

After all one cannot claim that we can seek God if Romans 3 is correct that none can (unless of course Romans 3 is not as clear as it seems as you suggest)

Likewise one cannot say God has ordained some to salvation and others not, if there are passages which contradict that.

At least maybe this way we will be more faithful to scripture rather than proof texting all the time, and that way we can slow down a bit and actually discuss the bible, not theologies or presupposed ideas.

Ill leave it up to you. You can even choose the passage if you want. How’s that!