Cheryl Schatz

Mark,
You said:

“Isaiah 53:6 sums up my view quite nicely. It says that we have all sinned and gone to our own ways. It does not say that all of us are totally depraved people. Man, if all people were totally depraved you couldn’t walk outside your door in the day time, let alone the night time.”

You have again not represented the doctrine correctly. It’s hard to discuss with you, when you don’t understand what you oppose.

I wasn’t trying to represent Calvinism. I said that Isaiah 53:6 doesn’t say that all of us are totally depraved people.

In fact “total depravity” is a very bad misnomer for your doctrine. Most choose to call it “total inability” because the other term doesn’t properly represent Calvinism.

Let me quote from a position to see if you agree with it:

That man could not obtain saving faith of himself or by the strength of his own free will, but stood in need of God’s grace through Christ to be renewed in thought and will.

Is this what you believe?