Mark

Kay,

I’m sorry you feel that way- it’s up to you. Yes you did mention the end of chapter 8- i know that. But the way you linked it chapter 9 did not make sense, that is why i addressed it again. Pauls argument in 9-11 is to show how God’s word has not failed because he has not seperated himself from ‘Israel’ (in the true sense). That is why i said to go back again to the again of chapter 8.

Thanks for the discussion anyway.