Mark

Cheryl,

Regarding your claim that the Cannaanites of the conquest were given a chance to repent. I noticed you quoted Jeremiah. Now Jeremiah was a exilic prophet, who lived, what, some 500-600 years after the conquest of the land. So no, the Jeremiah text does not deal with my question at all.

Also with Jonah, the time frame was way off the conquest. Also the difference between Ninevah and the conquest is clear. God sent Jonah to the Ninevites to get them to repent. No such thing happened with the conquest. No prophet was sent into Canaan to get the people to repent. That was God’s promised land to Abraham, God was faithful and gave it to His people. And all the ungodly were commanded to be killed and wiped out, so that Israel would not be polluted by the idols of Canaan. So again no, Canaan was not given an opportunity to repent.

I agree though with the aliens becoming part of the convenant people. However a covenant people were a chosen people, a loved people. Other nations were not a covenant people.

Now the atonement is clear in my view. Either it atoned and achieved a purpose or it didn’t. An Arminian position saids it didn’t achieve forgiveness, just that it made it possible, if people would just reach out and grab it. An Arminian atonement has the Trinity working against each other. Jesus dies for all men, yet the Spirit does not work in all men to achieve atonement for all. So Jesus achieves for all, but the Spirit achieves for a few. See the problem. Jesus does one thing, the Spirit does another. But anyway, I’m getting ahead of my self and will wait till you give your definition of how the atonement functions.