Kay

“Our will is not free- it is before rebirth corrupted by sin. Only God can enable us to desire him and thus choose his son as our own for salvation. So yes we are Robots- we always choose according to what we desire most. Our will is never free from our desires. Thanks be to God, that he has given us a new heart to will after Him. To enable us to follow Him rather than our natural sinful desire.”

Mark,
I wish you would explain for me how you made the choice to participate in the procreation of your own children with a clear conscience? It totally baffles me that someone who believes that many (maybe most) children are created by God for the sole purpose of reprobate eternal condemnation would choose to participate in that process.

Or maybe it is that you had no will choice. Is it that you were so irrisistibly compelled that you had no choice other than engaging in sexual activity with the mother of your children? Did she have no ‘choice’ as well?

Were any of your children conceived out of your “natural sinful desire” time before you became a believer with “a new heart to will after Him”? To you, is there any difference between having children conceived during the “natural sinful desire” state and having children conceived as a result of your “a new heart to will after Him”? Wouldn’t having ones as a result of your “natural sinful desire” time be against God’s will, since you believe everything done then was sin? Are those children here outside of God’s will?