Mark

Kay,

Yes and No. Yes my wife and i are included in Eph 5:21 since we are both members of the Christian community. We are included in the ‘one another’ as are all Christians in the Church. We will submit to those in the Christian community that God places over us.

No i do not jest! I want to see how far Dave pushes his theology. If it is truly reciprocal and equal in all relationships then the logical conclusion is obvious. Since i’m sure Dave doesn’t believe what i asked, his theology crumbles. He may give lip service to reciprocal submission but in practice it doesn’t happen.

Egalitarians want Eph 5:21 to be reciprocal in all relationships (especially marriage) but where do you draw the line to this mutuality? The lines are blurred. I’d rather stick with the Bible. Women submit to THEIR husbands (not others). ALL submit to governing authorities. ALL submit to church leaders as the shephards and overseers.

P.S Dave, i haven’t read Calvin on Eph 5:21 sorry