Kristen
2010-06-01
Mark,
With regards to your post #4, I have posted a great many posts in the earlier thread that explain my position on authority. In short, it is that in the Kingdom of God, authority does not come by being born to it (as a man by being born male would be born to one day have leadership over a wife), but is according to calling, character and competence. I do not wish to completely start over with all my arguments for this position. Please go back and read my earlier posts.
With regards to Galatians 3:28, the context includes salvation, but its focus is unity– it ends, “for we are all ONE in Christ Jesus,” not “for we are all saved by Christ Jesus.” How there can be true unity when one group believes they are born to have authority over another group which is born to be subordinate, completely escapes me.
With regards to submission being the same as subordination, I disagree with that and with BDAG. Several examples have already been given above, of how Clement and Polycarp used the word we translate “submit” in a way that does not connote subordination. Please read post #1 above. I find Clement and Polycarp, who spoke Koine Greek and lived during or near the time of Paul, to be a lot more compelling than you or BDAG on what a word in their own language meant.
I used to be charismatic, but when I was, I wasn’t egalitarian. I came to be egalitarian by being convinced of the position, not because of what church I belong to.
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