Mark

Susanne,

Thanks for your insights and thoughts on James 4, i found them helpful. But let me ask a further question to you which relates directly back to your claim at showing Grudem wrong.

‘How did any of what you said disprove Grudem’s challenge’?

Grudem asks egalitarians to show a use of hypotasso between people, when it does not involve authority. IN james 4, we are told to submit to God. To disprove Grudem’s challenge you would have to show how or why God is not in authority over us, which is exactly Grudem’s point. You did not even address his challenge. You need to be specific, when we are told to submit to God, is God in authority over us…yes or no!- this is Grudem’s challenge.

I look forward to further explanation on this and on the other Biblical and non biblical uses.

Cheers