Mark

Gengwell,

In your definitions of ‘hypo’ I wonder if what you have said is the meaning for verbs only or have you included nouns etc. Also what does your lexicon say about the ‘case’ of the subject or object in order to give the proper definition.

So in James 4 we are told to ‘align with’ (not submit under or to) God in the sense that he does not have authority over us…correct?

This is all becoming hysterical! How far must we go to re-invent Biblical teaching.

Regarding your last point “Isn’t it just possible that Paul, who does not even have a military context on the radar here, is applying a much more “side by side” meaning to hypotasso?”

My response: yeah maybe, if we want to put our selves on a level par with the creator of the world, the creator of us, the sustainer of all things, and say that we are not under His authority. Sure I can accept this novel interpretation, if I thought I was God.

I guess the next argument will be, that Eph 5:21 uses the ‘align with’ and then Paul switches with Christ to ‘submit under’- I can see where this is leading. Paul just loves to be confusing like this doesn’t he!