Mark

Sue,

Re Maccabees…

I would assume Grudem would say something like this…it doesn’t respond to his question. He is asking when one PERSON hypotasso’s to another it is always one directional. The maccabee reference is not an example of this. It is a yielding to the ‘rights’ (observances etc) not to the Jews themselves.

Clement may be a good case for you. When i get a chance i will look into it more in the context.

Thanks